New push to ban all cell phone use in cars?

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    Dec 15, 2011 1:52 AM GMT
    What do you think of the new push to make it illegal to use your cell phone period, including hands free headsets?
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    Dec 15, 2011 1:53 AM GMT
    jackjameson41 saidWhat do you think of the new push to make it illegal to use your cell phone period, including hands free headsets?
    No problem with hands NOT free.. the hands free is over reaching and bullshit.
    Texting however, should be blocked in all automobile while moving.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Dec 15, 2011 2:06 AM GMT
    I honestly think that their is no way at this point to stop texting and driving anymore than they cant stop drinking and driving. People will still do it. Driving is just more dangerous now
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    Dec 15, 2011 2:07 AM GMT
    If you can't use a hands-free Bluetooth connection with your cell phone (which our car has from the factory), shouldn't radio and CD use be illegal, too? But GPS is OK? Which can actually be a greater distraction to operate while moving.

    I'm hoping the Administration and/or Congress will simply ignore these loonies at the Transportation Dept, because I don't think the American people will like this. Nor the auto manufactures who have invested millions to make Bluetooth work in cars.

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    Dec 15, 2011 2:17 AM GMT
    Then I want to outlaw kids in the car too.

    Oh. And Dogs and cats in laps.

    Or books or newspapers being read while driving...

    And makeup must be transported in the trunk, and not in a purse...

    And for that matter, passengers.

    Or...heaven forbid, we must get rid of the pretty boys walking down the street (or girls, if that's your thing)...

    We already have laws on the books to deal with 'distracted' driving. I dont' care if it's a passenger, a child, a puppy, makeup, food, the radio, GPS,

    You cannot legislate out stupidity. It's impossible. You also can't effectively enforce this law. People will be distracted while driving. They always have been, they always will be.

    More stupid legislation. Don't we have *larger* issues to solve.

    Highway deaths were the lowest ever on record last year...

    We're throwing money and effort at a "problem" that in reality, just isn't one. Le's actually do something productive for a change.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Dec 15, 2011 2:22 AM GMT
    guyjeep8 said
    We're throwing money and effort at a "problem" that in reality, just isn't one. Le's actually do something productive for a change.



    I think you're being naive to say it ISN'T a problem. Texting and driving has become a HUGE problem, and it will continue to grow as more and more people get addicted to texting and working their smartphones while driving. The industry has created a monster.
  • nvaguy69

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    Dec 15, 2011 2:55 AM GMT
    I'm all for technology that shuts down the cell phone from texting while the vehicle is in motion. As for conversations, make blue tooth/hands free options mandatory or the phone doesn't function. Laws banning irresponsible use isn't enough. It's nearly impossible to enforce unless you're driving slow in a big city.

    I'm not a fan of encroaching regulation from an already bloated gov't. But, on this particular subject I think it's needed since it's obvious that irresponsible drivers won't, or just don't care to, regulate themselves.


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    Dec 15, 2011 2:59 AM GMT
    Well if I can't speak using Bluetooth, answering a call using a single button on my steering wheel, less effort than setting my cruise control, both hands on the steering wheel, then I guess I shouldn't be having conversations with my passengers, should I? And I can place a call entirely by voice, again without touching my cell phone. Apparently we must be totally silent in our cars. "No talking, now, children, or Sister Traffic Safety will have to crack your knuckles with her ruler!"
  • seventyfour

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    Dec 15, 2011 3:16 AM GMT
    nvaguy69 saidI'm all for technology that shuts down the cell phone from texting while the vehicle is in motion. As for conversations, make blue tooth/hands free options mandatory or the phone doesn't function. Laws banning irresponsible use isn't enough. It's nearly impossible to enforce unless you're driving slow in a big city.

    I'm not a fan of encroaching regulation from an already bloated gov't. But, on this particular subject I think it's needed since it's obvious that irresponsible drivers won't, or just don't care to, regulate themselves.




    I recently got the Sidekick 4G, it has a program on it called DriveSafe. DriveSafe uses the phones GPS to track when the phone is moving at speeds faster than walking and shuts down the phones ability to text. It's quite ingenious and Android and T-Mobile are teaming up to put this feature on a lot of their newer phones.
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    Dec 15, 2011 3:17 AM GMT
    I think the idea is that it has to be all or nothing, otherwise any control just gets too complicated.

    As much as I think it would be nearly impossible to enforce and regulate, something is needed. I cannot tell you how many times I am almost engaged in an accident because of idiots on their cell phones. It's seriously out of control. Can you SERIOUSLY tell me that you just cannot wait to speak/text someone while you're in the car? I can understand a longer trip (solo), but even that is pushing it.

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    Dec 15, 2011 3:18 AM GMT
    A simple fix:

    Have all new cars built with a cell signal disruptor that is effective within a 1m sphere of the lumbar support node of the driver seat.

    If the car is in drive gear and moving more than 5mph, the disruptor activates and prevents any cell phone signals coming in or out.

    And gives the driver cancer for added LULZ, eventually forcing everyone (except for chauffeured folks) to move to urban centres and use mass transit, and ever more be dependent on the benevolent graces of our omnipotent and omniscient Government.

    Problem solved.

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    Dec 15, 2011 3:18 AM GMT
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    nvaguy69 saidI'm all for technology that shuts down the cell phone from texting while the vehicle is in motion. As for conversations, make blue tooth/hands free options mandatory or the phone doesn't function. Laws banning irresponsible use isn't enough. It's nearly impossible to enforce unless you're driving slow in a big city.

    I'm not a fan of encroaching regulation from an already bloated gov't. But, on this particular subject I think it's needed since it's obvious that irresponsible drivers won't, or just don't care to, regulate themselves.




    I recently got the Sidekick 4G, it has a program on it called DriveSafe. DriveSafe uses the phones GPS to track when the phone is moving at speeds faster than walking and shuts down the phones ability to text. It's quite ingenious and Android and T-Mobile are teaming up to put this feature on a lot of their newer phones.


    Love it.
  • seventyfour

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    Dec 15, 2011 3:18 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidIf you can't use a hands-free Bluetooth connection with your cell phone (which our car has from the factory), shouldn't radio and CD use be illegal, too? But GPS is OK? Which can actually be a greater distraction to operate while moving.

    I'm hoping the Administration and/or Congress will simply ignore these loonies at the Transportation Dept, because I don't think the American people will like this. Nor the auto manufactures who have invested millions to make Bluetooth work in cars.



    I am living in Germany at the moment, it is illegal here to use handheld devices such as a GPS, phone, iPod, etc. while the vehicle is turned on and on am active road. It has reduced the number of traffic incidents exponentially.
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    Dec 15, 2011 3:28 AM GMT
    Now the most interesting thing is they want to ban hands free devices but not devices built in to the car... I call bullshit...
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    Dec 15, 2011 3:56 AM GMT
    for the most part I use my fm transmitter to place calls while I've driving (love my HTC Phones) and listen to music through my truck's speakers. I just haven't found a reliable way to text. I need to play with my android so it understands me better I guess... SIRI and I were fighting too so maybe it's just me... I dunno... she's an abortion hating cunt and I'd hate to have to rely on something like her to text with while driving.
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    Dec 15, 2011 4:31 AM GMT
    It sounds like the government has found a new way to generate revenue. How long before they have routine stops to make money?
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    Dec 15, 2011 4:33 AM GMT
    EastCoastNAZ saidI think the idea is that it has to be all or nothing, otherwise any control just gets too complicated.

    As much as I think it would be nearly impossible to enforce and regulate, something is needed. I cannot tell you how many times I am almost engaged in an accident because of idiots on their cell phones. It's seriously out of control. Can you SERIOUSLY tell me that you just cannot wait to speak/text someone while you're in the car? I can understand a longer trip (solo), but even that is pushing it.



    Ditto!! I've had numerous near accidents, especially getting rear-ended, by idiot drivers using their cell phones and not paying attention to the road.

    Hand-free cell phones are no better. The brain is equally distracted.

    I don't think any other post mentioned that 35 states have already banned texting while driving.

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    Dec 15, 2011 4:51 AM GMT
    Ban them, ban the shit out of everything, for everything we have ever known has lost its relevance.
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    Dec 15, 2011 5:03 AM GMT
    I thought it doesn't really matter whether it's hands-free or not. If you're talking while driving or eating/drinking while driving, your attention is off. (there was a study that I can't locate right now that showed this)

    Still, having 2 free hands is much better than 1 free hand while driving.
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    Dec 15, 2011 5:33 AM GMT
    I have no problem pulling over and stopping to answer a text.
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    Dec 15, 2011 6:09 AM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    jackjameson41 saidWhat do you think of the new push to make it illegal to use your cell phone period, including hands free headsets?
    No problem with hands NOT free.. the hands free is over reaching and bullshit.
    Texting however, should be blocked in all automobile while moving.


    hands free devices are often cited as being more dangerous than not having them because they provide the illusion of safety. the act of holding a phone isn't what causes bad driving; the act of talking on a phone and being distracted does. hands free does not solve that problem. any form of talking on a phone while driving is a distraction.
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    Dec 15, 2011 6:19 AM GMT
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    TropicalMark said
    jackjameson41 saidWhat do you think of the new push to make it illegal to use your cell phone period, including hands free headsets?
    No problem with hands NOT free.. the hands free is over reaching and bullshit.
    Texting however, should be blocked in all automobile while moving.


    hands free devices are often cited as being more dangerous than not having them because they provide the illusion of safety. the act of holding a phone isn't what causes bad driving; the act of talking on a phone and being distracted does. hands free does not solve that problem. any form of talking on a phone while driving is a distraction.


    ....the research supports Calibro - it is the distraction that is the problem not whether it is hands free or not -both carry the same form of risk...

    ..people have driven for almost 100 years without needing to answer a phone in a car...and we got by somehow...

    ..I turn mine off when I am in the car...and back on when I get out of the car...

    ...this 'infringement of rights' bullshit is just that - bullshit -

    I bet any of the guys who see it as a government intrusion had a member of their family wiped out - they would be rightly outraged - as the death could have been prevented ....

    get a life and sweat the big stuff fellas
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    Dec 15, 2011 9:09 AM GMT
    Many people think that making the cell phone hands free is good enough, but research shows that just the distraction alone of talking on the phone while driving still puts you at a higher risk of getting into an accident. Ideally, when driving your full attention should be on the task at hand.

  • HndsmKansan

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    Dec 15, 2011 10:24 AM GMT
    Good intentions, but not sure, practically, how it would be enforced.
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    Dec 15, 2011 11:05 AM GMT
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    calibro said
    TropicalMark said
    jackjameson41 saidWhat do you think of the new push to make it illegal to use your cell phone period, including hands free headsets?
    No problem with hands NOT free.. the hands free is over reaching and bullshit.
    Texting however, should be blocked in all automobile while moving.


    hands free devices are often cited as being more dangerous than not having them because they provide the illusion of safety. the act of holding a phone isn't what causes bad driving; the act of talking on a phone and being distracted does. hands free does not solve that problem. any form of talking on a phone while driving is a distraction.


    ....the research supports Calibro - it is the distraction that is the problem not whether it is hands free or not -both carry the same form of risk...

    ..people have driven for almost 100 years without needing to answer a phone in a car...and we got by somehow...

    ..I turn mine off when I am in the car...and back on when I get out of the car...

    ...this 'infringement of rights' bullshit is just that - bullshit -

    I bet any of the guys who see it as a government intrusion had a member of their family wiped out - they would be rightly outraged - as the death could have been prevented ....

    get a life and sweat the big stuff fellas


    For the win . .

    I completely support a ban. I can't tell you how many times I've almost been hit by someone swerving because they are talking on their phone. Even worse are the people who are in a parking lot, and start talking AFTER they pull out. If it's that important, sit in your spot, have your conversation and PUT THE PHONE DOWN!

    Also, as the father of two teen drivers, it would give me one less thing to worry about when they are behind the wheel and I'm not there to stop them from fiddling with their phone.