My whole diet is made up of carbs!

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    Dec 15, 2011 10:48 PM GMT
    So, this is what I eat a day...

    6 chocolate paddle pops - 600 calories

    2 eggs on toast - 300 calories.

    chicken stew with rice - 500 calories.

    And Minestrone soup - 300 calories.

    which equals 1700 calories a day. And I've lost 10 kilos... So why are they bad? I don't get it?

    I also only drink diet coke.

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    Dec 15, 2011 10:54 PM GMT
    Bleh, I just hate the whole. Carbs will make you fat thing. Pisses me off. I don't even get what's wrong with them, they're just extra energy basically.
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    Dec 16, 2011 2:58 AM GMT
    Kristoff saidSo, this is what I eat a day...

    6 chocolate paddle pops - 600 calories
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    2 eggs on toast - 300 calories.

    chicken stew with rice - 500 calories.

    And Minestrone soup - 300 calories.

    which equals 1700 calories a day. And I've lost 10 kilos... So why are they bad? I don't get it?

    I also only drink diet coke.
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    A trashy diet = a trashy body

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    Dec 16, 2011 3:00 AM GMT
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    Dec 16, 2011 3:13 AM GMT
    oaksen said
    Kristoff saidSo, this is what I eat a day...

    6 chocolate paddle pops - 600 calories
    paddle-pop_lg_html.jpg

    2 eggs on toast - 300 calories.

    chicken stew with rice - 500 calories.

    And Minestrone soup - 300 calories.

    which equals 1700 calories a day. And I've lost 10 kilos... So why are they bad? I don't get it?

    I also only drink diet coke.
    Anti-diet-coke.jpg


    A trashy diet = a trashy body



    agreed 'cept the diet coke comment.
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    Dec 16, 2011 5:29 AM GMT
    My diet really is made up of almost only carbs. I do a lot of running so I stay in good shape.

    BUT my cholesterol is messed up because of it, and I've got to add more fat and protein to my diet. My "bad" cholesterol is really low. But my "good" cholesterol is also really low--and that can lead to serious heart problems.

    I'm not saying this is a bad problem to have or hard problem to fix. I've just started eating a lot of walnuts. (Apparently those raise your good cholesterol.)

    But yeah: too many carbs really can be bad for you.
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    Dec 16, 2011 5:43 AM GMT
    Yeah, regarding the diet coke thing, that's actually okay. There's nothing wrong with diet soda. #hatersgonnahate
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    Dec 16, 2011 5:58 AM GMT
    for optimum bodybuilding...i think it's 50%protein 45%carbs and 20% good fats[like nuts,fish oil,flaxseed]...at each meal...6 small meals daily..correct me if i'm wrong,guys.........pretty sure i read that you are supposed to eat as many grams of protein as your body weighs in pounds..to build muscle.for instance..if you weigh 180 lbs...you should be eating 180 grams of protein daily.....
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    Dec 16, 2011 6:02 AM GMT
    eddie13 saidfor optimum bodybuilding...i think it's 50%protein 45%carbs and 20% good fats[like nuts,fish oil,flaxseed]...at each meal...6 small meals daily..correct me if i'm wrong,guys...


    50% + 45% + 20% = 115%

    I think you mean 40% protein + 40% carbs + 20% good fats (like omega-3)... Which is the standard rule of thumb.

    Protein consumption if you want to break it down to body weight factors differently depending on level of activity.

    Go here for a quick yet very thorough breakdown of macronutrient needs:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=121703981
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    Dec 16, 2011 8:19 AM GMT
    I'm pissed he can eat that shit and have the body he does... If I did that... yeah.. let's NOT go there.
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    Dec 16, 2011 8:29 AM GMT
    The anti-carbs thing (as best I can tell) is a byproduct of the Atkins Diet (and copy-cat/smilar diets).

    The idea there is really more of a body hack.
    By removing carbs you largely remove the stimulation of insulin, which prevents energy from being stored as fat. Total carb restriction was, as I understand, used as an emergency diet for people too obese for surgery and then became popular for more general weight loss (the advantage being it didn't require thinking about how much you ate).

    The atkins-like carb focus was diluted (Atkins needs to be a bit binary to work) over time and combined with an awareness by a previously fat-phobic american society that a lot of excess calories come from carbs (particularly simple carbs which are digested quickly).

    Current thoughts are in part over-simplification, in part over reaction and in part a genuine awareness of an area where a lot of people shovel excess caloires into their diets.

    Very few people (there are exceptions) would suggest that carbs shouldn't, much less can't, be a part of a healthy diet.


    [Note: this what I understand of Atkins evolution, It's not a precise history by any means.]
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    Dec 16, 2011 8:35 AM GMT
    People like to throw a lot of numbers around. In truth there seems to be a wide range of ratios that are good for you. Go too low on any one and it may cause problems (though, of them, minimizing carbs seems to have the fewest health ramifications - minimizing protein or fat not so good).


    The one gram per lbs of lean body mass get's thrown around a lot in body building forums and the like. Plenty of big guys with large physiques also say that they use much lower ratios (like .5 grams, etc. - though that's still more than a lot of people take in).

    I'm not sure what the data actually says there. And, of course, not all proteins are created equal.


    eddie13 saidfor optimum bodybuilding...i think it's 50%protein 45%carbs and 20% good fats[like nuts,fish oil,flaxseed]...at each meal...6 small meals daily..correct me if i'm wrong,guys.........pretty sure i read that you are supposed to eat as many grams of protein as your body weighs in pounds..to build muscle.for instance..if you weigh 180 lbs...you should be eating 180 grams of protein daily.....
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    Dec 16, 2011 8:37 AM GMT
    Carbs have been vilified because we eat too many in the typical Western diet. People can get a little carried away about excluding them from their diet. It also depends somewhat on each individual's physiology. People who have more trouble losing weight, even with good diet and exercise, may try to reduce their carb intake to decrease their body fat.

    In your case, I'd be more concerned with what you aren't eating. Your diet doesn't sound like it has much in the way of fruits and vegetables. You are probably lacking in essential vitamins and minerals. These deficiencies may not show up for years. You're eating a lot of empty calories - pops, toast (is that white or wheat?), rice, and soup (does that contain noodles or rice?). I would recommend consulting a nutritionist or at least browsing some reputable nutrition web sites to learn about which foods can give you a healthy balanced diet, with or without carbs.
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    Dec 16, 2011 2:48 PM GMT
    Scotticus saidYeah, regarding the diet coke thing, that's actually okay. There's nothing wrong with diet soda. #hatersgonnahate


    I've researched every chemical in diet soda. So far the only thing that's wrong with it is the aspartame, which is only bad if your allergic to it. It's just a chemical, but it isn't stored in the body.
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    Dec 16, 2011 2:53 PM GMT
    The problem with diet soda is that people think because they're drinking diet drinks they can eat chips and other fattening foods.

    "I'll have a combo #5 super-size fries... but make sure it's DIET Coke"
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    Dec 16, 2011 2:56 PM GMT
    Well I don't, I only eat 1700 calories a day or under. That's including diet coke. I see no problem with it. Hmmm, and what's so bad about the paddle pops?
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    Dec 16, 2011 3:01 PM GMT
    A) You are 18 years old with what is likely a pretty high metabolism. So if it's working for you right now, then why worry too much about it. When you get older this will change.

    B) If you are wanting to change your body, you need to eat according to what your goals are. As said before, if you are weight training and want to build muscle, you need to eat a lot more protein. If you are wanting to stay lean - or are a runner, then more carbs will not hut because the added cardio will burn those carbs for fuel. If you are happy where you are, then why fix what isn't broken?

    C) For me, carbs are the enemy because they don't fit in with my goals to lose weight and build muscle. For you carbs may be your best friend.

    Everybody's different.

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    Dec 16, 2011 3:12 PM GMT
    Ryan_Andrew saidI'm pissed he can eat that shit and have the body he does... If I did that... yeah.. let's NOT go there.



    hahahah I know. well he is 18 and I was 135 at 18 and I ate whatever I wanted and worked out and I was lean. but it creeps on you as you get older. I d say clean up diet a bit. there are other reasons not just to look good to clean up your diet. health reasons. from your pics. you have a lean but soft look not sure if tahts what you are looking for or a hard muscular body.
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    Dec 16, 2011 3:15 PM GMT
    eddie13 saidfor optimum bodybuilding...i think it's 50%protein 45%carbs and 20% good fats[like nuts,fish oil,flaxseed]...at each meal...6 small meals daily..correct me if i'm wrong,guys.........pretty sure i read that you are supposed to eat as many grams of protein as your body weighs in pounds..to build muscle.for instance..if you weigh 180 lbs...you should be eating 180 grams of protein daily.....


    Thats my problem. I could never do that. Probably explains why I look like I do.
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    Dec 16, 2011 3:48 PM GMT
    Kristoff saidWell I don't, I only eat 1700 calories a day or under. That's including diet coke. I see no problem with it. Hmmm, and what's so bad about the paddle pops?


    You're getting the most calories of your day from junk food. And you think that's ok?

    Good luck to you... I don't think you actually want advice from this forum.
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    Dec 16, 2011 3:55 PM GMT
    Ryan_Andrew saidI'm pissed he can eat that shit and have the body he does... If I did that... yeah.. let's NOT go there.


    He is only 18, eating like that unchanged will hit him hard later in life. Balloon
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    Dec 17, 2011 12:45 PM GMT
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    Ryan_Andrew saidI'm pissed he can eat that shit and have the body he does... If I did that... yeah.. let's NOT go there.


    He is only 18, eating like that unchanged will hit him hard later in life. Balloon


    One can hope... I know guys that are like 40 and still eat like crap!
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    Dec 17, 2011 1:40 PM GMT
    Mate, you know why they are bad, you've asked before. If you can't be disciplined enough to follow the advice the forums have provided or the research you have read , join up to weight watchers. They allow you to eat what you like, good, bad or other.

    Just take one thing on board.. Get the diet choices right now at 18 and you'll be set for life.
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    Dec 17, 2011 9:04 PM GMT
    Ok, I changed my mind, get this book, anyway you can, bookshop, torrent, whateva, READ IT, and swing past and answer your own question.

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-book/the-primal-blueprint/#axzz1gpOqDdSU
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    Dec 17, 2011 10:02 PM GMT
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