Barcelona

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    Dec 16, 2011 11:05 PM GMT
    I had the chance to visit Barcelona a few summers ago and fell in love with the city. If I had to choose anywhere in the world to live outside the US, I would choose this city. Beautiful in every way.

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    Dec 16, 2011 11:07 PM GMT
    And here are some artsy photos I took also....


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    Dec 16, 2011 11:12 PM GMT
    It is by far the best city in Spain. Fuck Madrid.

    I love Catalunya in general. I often wish I had been born there instead of Andalusia so that I would have some command of Catalan icon_cool.gif
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    Dec 16, 2011 11:39 PM GMT
    pocketnico saidIt is by far the best city in Spain. Fuck Madrid.

    I love Catalunya in general. I often wish I had been born there instead of Andalusia so that I would have some command of Catalan icon_cool.gif


    I never really understood the disconnect between Catalunya and the rest of Spain. I understand they are trying to become their own nation but is their culture and customs really that different from the rest of the country? Same thing with the Basque region. Don't all countries have regions that differ? Why should Cataluyna be treated differently?icon_neutral.gif
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    Dec 17, 2011 2:07 AM GMT
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    pocketnico saidIt is by far the best city in Spain. Fuck Madrid.

    I love Catalunya in general. I often wish I had been born there instead of Andalusia so that I would have some command of Catalan icon_cool.gif


    I never really understood the disconnect between Catalunya and the rest of Spain. I understand they are trying to become their own nation but is their culture and customs really that different from the rest of the country? Same thing with the Basque region. Don't all countries have regions that differ? Why should Cataluyna be treated differently?icon_neutral.gif


    Much of the nationalist tension that exists in Catalunya, Euskadi (Basque Country), and Galicia stems from the oppression these regions suffered when Francisco Franco took over following the Civil War. Under his dictatorship it was illegal for any of these people to speak, study, and receive education in their regional language. Franco basically advocated only the Spanish language and Spanish culture. That resulted in a lot internal tension and the development of radical groups in these regions. Even though Franco died, democracy was restored, and all these regions received considerable autonomy, Catalunya and Basque Country remain hot spots for nationalist tension.

    I cannot speak for any of the autonomous regions as I'm not from any of those areas. If anything, perhaps the Basques have a case because they are very unique. They've lived in northern Spain before the Celts, Greeks, Phoenicians, Visigoths, and Romans arrived. Their language is not related to any other language on Earth. It's the only Pre-Roman language that survived in the entire Iberian Peninsula. Everybody else was Romanized and speaks some descendent of Vulgar Latin.

    Overall, most of the drama is between politicians and nationalist groups. I think most average people in these regions don't feel quite as conflicted or are indifferent. Many feel just as Basque/Catalan as they do Spanish. But they like being able to have their own separate culture and language separate from the rest of Spain.

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    Dec 20, 2011 12:12 AM GMT
    I was in Barcelona for a month this past summer and it was probably one of the best summers I have ever had. The cuisine, the culture, the people, the nightlife, the sights, the history, and everything, IT WAS AMAZING. Definitely will return to try some more tapas. Sagardi is my favorite place to eat tapas there icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 20, 2011 12:14 AM GMT
    Both Barcelona and Madrid are utterly incredible. Love them both.

    (I've stayed at the W Hotel in the 3rd pic, and would highly recommend it!)
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    Dec 20, 2011 12:26 AM GMT
    I like any city in Spain really. I just love Spain
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    Dec 20, 2011 12:41 AM GMT
    I was able to go last year. I did find it enchanting as well.
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    Dec 20, 2011 12:46 AM GMT
    This one takes me back!

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    Dec 20, 2011 5:01 AM GMT
    i was going to chile to learn spanish but changed my mind now.. haha really
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    Dec 20, 2011 5:33 AM GMT
    I was there for a week in October after cycling for a week in Mallorca. The food is incredible in Barcelona--everything else was just things to do between meals.

    I loved the nude beach called Playa del Mar Bella. Good mixed crowd and right off a major road. It struck me how uptight Americans are when I saw a guy showering the sand off his naked body just a few feet away from a police station and in full view of people just randomly walking down the street.

    I didn't really care for the Gaudi architecture, but appreciated it for what it is.

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    Dec 22, 2011 2:33 AM GMT
    dadan saidi was going to chile to learn spanish but changed my mind now.. haha really


    Well good for you! Actually, I have never been but hear nothing but good things about Chile as well. But in my opinion Barcelona seems mush more cosmopolitan and diverse than Santiago (which is where I would assume you would go) Plus, there are beaches and the gay scene is one of the best in the world. icon_biggrin.gif

    But do note, that the Spanish spoken in Spain is slightly different than that spoken in Latin America. It shouldn't be too much of a stretch but just something to consider...
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    Dec 22, 2011 2:36 AM GMT
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    dadan saidi was going to chile to learn spanish but changed my mind now.. haha really


    Well good for you! Actually, I have never been but hear nothing but good things about Chile as well. But in my opinion Barcelona seems mush more cosmopolitan and diverse than Santiago (which is where I would assume you would go) Plus, there are beaches and the gay scene is one of the best in the world. icon_biggrin.gif

    But do note, that the Spanish spoken in Spain is slightly different than that spoken in Latin America. It shouldn't be too much of a stretch but just something to consider...


    Nothing compared to Chilean Spanish, haha. I must admit it's quite a chore to make sense of Chilean slang!
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    Dec 22, 2011 2:38 AM GMT
    Racist!!!


    Just kidding.
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    Dec 22, 2011 2:40 AM GMT
    About learning Spanish: I would never bother going to Catalunya to learn Spanish... you wil find people interested in speaking it to you.. but its like learning English in Germany... Sure they speak perfectly and fluently.. but they are not native speakers and they wont use it around you... not to mention you will have to both learn Spanish while all the street signs and everything is in Catala!!! no way.. dont do it.. you are setting yourself up for making it harder having to separate two different languages you dont know that are difficult to learn for a beginner simultaneously

    If you want to learn in spain.. go to Madrid or Cordoba.. someplace where the people speak native Spanish and use it themselves and all the signs are in that language....

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    Dec 22, 2011 2:42 AM GMT
    GreenHopper saidAbout learning Spanish: I would never bother going to Catalunya to learn Spanish... you wil find people interested in speaking it to you.. but its like learning English in Germany... Sure they speak perfectly and fluently.. but they are not native speakers and they wont use it around you... not to mention you will have to both learn Spanish while all the street signs and everything is in Catala!!! no way.. dont do it.. you are setting yourself up for making it harder having to separate two different languages you dont know that are difficult to learn for a beginner simultaneously

    If you want to learn in spain.. go to Madrid or Cordoba.. someplace where the people speak native Spanish and use it themselves and all the signs are in that language....



    I did notice a lot of Cataluyna. Go figure :-/

    But yeah, Madrid might be a better bet.

    This lovely lady said it best...

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    Dec 22, 2011 2:45 AM GMT
    Although I think Catalan is quite a nice language. Unfortunately Catalan is not useful outside Catalunya, Valencia, and Andorra. However, it would be nifty to become bilingual from living and studying in Barcelona.

    Besides, Catalunya is one of the few regions that has remained in good state despite all of Spain's economic drama. Catalunya has wealth and jobs. People have been migrating there for several decades now.
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    Dec 25, 2011 11:49 PM GMT
    The Gran Derby is my favorite hotel in Barcelona. It is only about 10 km from the Barcelona Int'l. Airport. Also near the Picasso Museum, the Gothic Quarter, and a lot of shops - walking distance.
  • idubya

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    Dec 26, 2011 4:03 AM GMT
    I went to Barcelona two summers ago it was amazing! Did the whole hostel thing and went out to those crazy spanish beach clubs. I want to go back.
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    Dec 26, 2011 4:05 AM GMT
    Agreed about Spain. I prefer Madrid, but Barcelona is an impressive place. Shows what an enlightened elite can do with a long oppressed city. They have really transformed the place and made it magnificent.
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    Dec 28, 2011 4:53 AM GMT
    Nice pics, OP.

    I'll be travelling to Madrid and Barcelona in April so I'm starting to do some research on the country. I heard from most friends that Madrid is awesome if you are into architecture. I do appreciate sculptures and buildings but I hope to find more in Madrid than that.
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    Dec 28, 2011 5:19 AM GMT
    Triage81 saidNice pics, OP.

    I'll be travelling to Madrid and Barcelona in April so I'm starting to do some research on the country. I heard from most friends that Madrid is awesome if you are into architecture. I do appreciate sculptures and buildings but I hope to find more in Madrid than that.


    If you haven't already booked your hotel, try the Axel Hotel. It is a gay owned and operated hotel in the gay district. Easy to walk to Las Ramblas, the beach, and most of the other parts of the city. Very friendly staff also.

    I would love to go back again....icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 28, 2011 7:06 AM GMT
    Barcelona is an amazing and charming city. I love it!!!!!

    I've lived there for 6 months and life seemed so care-free. It was great.
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    Dec 29, 2011 4:11 AM GMT
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    Triage81 saidNice pics, OP.

    I'll be travelling to Madrid and Barcelona in April so I'm starting to do some research on the country. I heard from most friends that Madrid is awesome if you are into architecture. I do appreciate sculptures and buildings but I hope to find more in Madrid than that.


    If you haven't already booked your hotel, try the Axel Hotel. It is a gay owned and operated hotel in the gay district. Easy to walk to Las Ramblas, the beach, and most of the other parts of the city. Very friendly staff also.

    I would love to go back again....icon_biggrin.gif


    Thanks, man. I'll be sure to check it out.