Indesign question

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    Dec 17, 2011 4:12 AM GMT
    I created a catalogue facing pages a total of 24 pages. For design purposes the pages display exactly as you would see them once printed, page 2 facing page 3, face 4 facing page 5 and so on. However when it comes to print these pages I need them to be alternated in printing positions so page 1 facing page 24, page 2 facing page 23 and so on , aka duplex printing.


    Is there any option when I export as PDF to achieve this? Or do I have to reorganize my pages manually? icon_sad.gif
  • Clarity42

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    Dec 17, 2011 5:46 AM GMT
    Imposition

    http://livedocs.adobe.com/en_US/InDesign/5.0/help.html?content=WSa285fff53dea4f8617383751001ea8cb3f-7049.html
    or

    program like this http://bookletcreator.com/how-it-works/
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    Dec 17, 2011 9:00 AM GMT
    I am partial owner to a print shop and I've not used indesign before but when we print for clients that work with InDesign, they have had to lay it out as page 1 facing pg 24 and so on. We use Corel for PC so I can't really offer more advice than that. That's the way one of our biggest clients has been sending us work. He designs as you did then opens a new file and begins the layout as the print needs to be. What's even more tricky is when you have to print on the BACK of the page. My suggestion, print out letter size verions of the document then layout out physically and number them so you will know how to actually lay them out in the program. Good luck... I know that mess isn't fun at all!
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    Dec 17, 2011 9:32 AM GMT
    I'm not familiar with this software. Do you mean like a "booklet" printing option or something else?

    http://help.adobe.com/en_US/InDesign/6.0/WSa285fff53dea4f8617383751001ea8cb3f-704ba.html
  • fitartistsf

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    Dec 17, 2011 10:49 AM GMT
    charlitos saidI created a catalogue facing pages a total of 24 pages. For design purposes the pages display exactly as you would see them once printed, page 1 facing page 2, face 3 facing page 4 and so on. However when it comes to print these pages I need them to be alternated in printing positions so page 1 facing page 24, page 2 facing page 23 and so on , aka duplex printing.


    Is there any option when I export as PDF to achieve this? Or do I have to reorganize my pages manually? icon_sad.gif


    We work with Adobe CS4 in my office, to include InDesign. I haven't ever seen where exporting the file as a PDF would change the pages automatically. You would have to create and organize the file in InDesign in the beginning so as to be able to print them as you described.
    In my office, since we hold on to the master files, we set them up to the printer profiles for our large printers. We never send out the files to the client, normally because my office is the sole graphics/print/multimedia office on the military base where I work. No other office on the base has, or should have, any Adobe, or other graphic programs. So how we set up our InDesign files are for us, the customer gets a printed proof, or a PDF file set up in the way we print it, with the understanding that what they are viewing, the way the pages appear in their PDF proof, is for my shop's printers only, not their desktop ink, or laserjet printers...
    Unless the customer you are sending the PDF to is going to print the file themselves, it would be best to create the file in InDesign the way you want it. But if they are the printing house you are making the file for, you may have to set the file up to be compatible with their printer profiles and printers...
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    Dec 17, 2011 11:01 AM GMT
    fitartistsf said
    charlitos saidI created a catalogue facing pages a total of 24 pages. For design purposes the pages display exactly as you would see them once printed, page 1 facing page 2, face 3 facing page 4 and so on. However when it comes to print these pages I need them to be alternated in printing positions so page 1 facing page 24, page 2 facing page 23 and so on , aka duplex printing.


    Is there any option when I export as PDF to achieve this? Or do I have to reorganize my pages manually? icon_sad.gif


    We work with Adobe CS4 in my office, to include InDesign. I haven't ever seen where exporting the file as a PDF would change the pages automatically. You would have to create and organize the file in InDesign in the beginning so as to be able to print them as you described.
    In my office, since we hold on to the master files, we set them up to the printer profiles for our large printers. We never send out the files to the client, normally because my office is the sole graphics/print/multimedia office on the military base where I work. No other office on the base has, or should have, any Adobe, or other graphic programs. So how we set up our InDesign files are for us, the customer gets a printed proof, or a PDF file set up in the way we print it, with the understanding that what they are viewing, the way the pages appear in their PDF proof, is for my shop's printers only, not their desktop ink, or laserjet printers...
    Unless the customer you are sending the PDF to is going to print the file themselves, it would be best to create the file in InDesign the way you want it. But if they are the printing house you are making the file for, you may have to set the file up to be compatible with their printer profiles and printers...


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    Dec 17, 2011 3:58 PM GMT
    The thing is that the print shop is asking me for this. Ideally I would just send them the InDesign file and they could manage themselves with printing options. However they cant open my ID file because they only have ID CS3 and I used ID CS5 so my only option is to send them a PDF or a bunch of JPGs.

    PDF will export as layed out in ID(facing pages 2-3), JPGs will just export each page independently and its up to the print shop to reorganize it. The only other thing I can do is just reorganize my ID file for duplex printing then export as PDF but seriously what a pain in the ass. Cant believe Adobe hasnt come up with anything for something so common and needed.

    Question: If I try to reorganize my pages wouldn't that totally fuck up my paging markers? Is there a way to tell ID not to change my page numbers once I start moving shit around?
  • UncleverName

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    Dec 17, 2011 4:09 PM GMT
    I love that you can ask a question like this on RealJock and actually get a sensible answer from someone.
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    Dec 17, 2011 4:19 PM GMT
    UncleverName saidI love that you can ask a question like this on RealJock and actually get a sensible answer from someone.


    In most cases you get better answers on here than in dedicated sites for these topics. Simply because on those forums people have asked the same questions 1 million times and you have a higher chance of being totally ignored. Also it helps that this site is packed with professionals in pretty much any field icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 17, 2011 5:16 PM GMT
    When we were making our calendar I had to rearrange the pages manually in PS... holy shit please don't tell me there's a program that does it for you. That's 2 hours of my life I'll never get back.
  • DesireIron

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    Dec 17, 2011 6:02 PM GMT
    I dont know inDesign....

    does this help...

    http://indesignsecrets.com/print-booklet-in-indesign-cs3.php
  • ohioguy12

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    Dec 17, 2011 6:18 PM GMT
    Back in undergrad, I use to know inDesign pretty well, but I haven't touched that thing in like 4 years. Sorry amigo.
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    Dec 17, 2011 6:28 PM GMT
    And I'm used to QuarkXpress. Not sure if it is different from InDesign when doing that kind of task.
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    Dec 17, 2011 6:36 PM GMT
    UncleverName saidI love that you can ask a question like this on RealJock and actually get a sensible answer from someone.


    And so far, one of the few threads that hasn't disintegrated into a name-calling contest....icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 17, 2011 6:49 PM GMT
    My company prints a large magazine each week, designed in InDesign, and it's the printer's responsibility to arrange the pages correctly.

    BUT, if you have to do this yourself, you need to chose File--> Print booklet. Chose two-up Saddle Stitch, this will order them the way you want. If you were printing them out you would then select all your settings. Since you need to make a PDF, you would chose "Print Settings" then "Printer" in the next box, then "PDF" --> "Save as PDF" and follow the prompts through.

    You can see why it's better to sent the printer the InDesign file or a PDF made with the highest quality settings and let him do the dirty work.

  • zainab783

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    Dec 18, 2011 6:40 AM GMT
    thanks for your such nice sharing with us here
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    Dec 18, 2011 9:54 AM GMT
    Firstly, tell the twat of a printer to update the damned software to the latest two versions (CS4 and CS5) any printer who doesn't have the latest version shouldn't be printing, investing in this software is part of running a good business.

    Second, to open a CS5 file in CS3 you have to go through CS4 first and there isn't any other option unfortunately.

    You will need to get CS4 to do the transition for them however you can and will lose some formatting that CS3 doesn't understand and things will look different.

    The other option is the output to a print ready PDF file and the bounding boxes, CYMK info and everything else will be included with the file which adobe software fully understands and supports.
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    Dec 18, 2011 12:56 PM GMT
    charlitos saidThe thing is that the print shop is asking me for this. Ideally I would just send them the InDesign file and they could manage themselves with printing options. However they cant open my ID file because they only have ID CS3 and I used ID CS5 so my only option is to send them a PDF or a bunch of JPGs.

    PDF will export as layed out in ID(facing pages 2-3), JPGs will just export each page independently and its up to the print shop to reorganize it. The only other thing I can do is just reorganize my ID file for duplex printing then export as PDF but seriously what a pain in the ass. Cant believe Adobe hasnt come up with anything for something so common and needed.

    Question: If I try to reorganize my pages wouldn't that totally fuck up my paging markers? Is there a way to tell ID not to change my page numbers once I start moving shit around?


    I'm surprised that a print shop in this day in age wouldn't have CS5. We have CS5 production premium. We do lot's of graphics design and layout so it's pretty standard for us. Granted we use Corel a hell of alot more than Adobe but we have it. Our primary graphics designer switch from Mac to PC for us and then changed from Adobe to Corel lol... Ms. Mo is the shitznitz!