AP-GfK Poll - "most Americans say the president deserves to be voted out of office"

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    Dec 17, 2011 5:35 PM GMT
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/campaigns/ap-gfk-poll-americans-about-evenly-split-on-whether-obama-should-be-voted-out-of-office/2011/12/16/gIQA3arbxO_story.html?tid=pm_politics_pop

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    ... most Americans say the president deserves to be voted out of office even though they have concerns about the Republican alternatives.

    ... Heading into his re-election campaign, the president faces a conflicted public. It does not support his steering of the economy, the most dominant issue for Americans, or his overhaul of health care, one of his signature accomplishments, but it also is grappling with whether to replace him with Republican contenders Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich.

    ...For the first time, the poll found that a majority of adults, 52 percent, said Obama should be voted out of office while 43 percent said he deserves another term.

    ... Obama’s overall job approval stands at a new low, with 44 percent approving and 54 percent disapproving. The president’s standing among independents is worse: Thirty-eight percent approve while 59 percent disapprove.
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    Dec 17, 2011 6:24 PM GMT
    All these polls are so ridiculous. For every poll that claims one result, there is another that claims the exact opposite. Polls mean nothing.
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    Dec 17, 2011 6:30 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidAll these polls are so ridiculous. For every poll that claims one result, there is another that claims the exact opposite. Polls mean nothing.

    They aren't predictors with ten digit accuracy, but collectively they do indicate trends, which are not rave reviews for the WH occupant.
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    Dec 17, 2011 6:39 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidAll these polls are so ridiculous. For every poll that claims one result, there is another that claims the exact opposite. Polls mean nothing.
    Agreed.
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    Dec 17, 2011 6:46 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    CuriousJockAZ saidAll these polls are so ridiculous. For every poll that claims one result, there is another that claims the exact opposite. Polls mean nothing.
    Agreed.


    Lol you only agree with statements like that when the polls suggest things you disagree with.

    Obama is deeply unpopular and becoming more so. His handling of the economy has been atrocious and the economy is going to be the primary election issue for 2012. This is however not to say that the Republicans won't have someone who is considered even less palatable - and you can also expect that it is part of whatever Democratic strategy to ensure this is considered to be the case.

    What is more clear though is that the gains that Republicans achieved in both the House and Senate will hold and likely grow at this point (betting markets give both houses being under Republican control an approximate 75% probability).

    Is polling useless? No. It just depends on who you ask, how many you ask, what you ask and when you ask.
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    Dec 17, 2011 8:28 PM GMT
    riddler78 said...Is polling useless? No. It just depends on who you ask, how many you ask, what you ask and when you ask.
    Just a further comment. Polling is a technique that can be very useful if you understand its strengths and limitations. While it can identify via questions the strength of opinions, it ultimately cannot determine whether people will change their minds. A properly constructed, statistically sound poll can accurately measure opinions within the stated statistical accuracy. Often, when there are apparent discrepancies between well constructed polls, the differences are often due to differences in the samples that people generally ignore. Specifically, different results would be obtained if the sample were based on adults, registered voters, or likely voters. You have to properly interpret the results.
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    Dec 17, 2011 9:04 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    TropicalMark said
    CuriousJockAZ saidAll these polls are so ridiculous. For every poll that claims one result, there is another that claims the exact opposite. Polls mean nothing.
    Agreed.


    Lol you only agree with statements like that when the polls suggest things you disagree with.

    Obama is deeply unpopular and becoming more so. His handling of the economy has been atrocious and the economy is going to be the primary election issue for 2012. This is however not to say that the Republicans won't have someone who is considered even less palatable - and you can also expect that it is part of whatever Democratic strategy to ensure this is considered to be the case.

    What is more clear though is that the gains that Republicans achieved in both the House and Senate will hold and likely grow at this point (betting markets give both houses being under Republican control an approximate 75% probability).

    Is polling useless? No. It just depends on who you ask, how many you ask, what you ask and when you ask.
    I agree with statements that I AGREE with.. and nothing more. Period. End of story.
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    Dec 18, 2011 6:18 AM GMT
    "most Americans say the president deserves to be voted out of office"

    Like it or not, there will be a president. We can't get rid of the one we have without putting in place a different one.