The Blessing and Curse of Being a Millennial?

  • swimjohn

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    Dec 17, 2011 9:50 PM GMT
    I came across this infographic today and wondered what other people thought about it. I think it makes some valid points and overall enjoyed what it had to say.

    Here's the Infographic and related commentary:

    http://www.fastcodesign.com/1665648/infographic-of-the-day-the-blessing-and-curse-of-being-a-millennial

    Infographic Of The Day: The Blessing And Curse Of Being A Millennial
    Millennials are well-educated, tech-savvy, and independent. They're also cursed by a bad economy. But all this might have a silver lining...

    You heard constantly about the millennial generation--that they're tech-savvy, and different from everyone that came before. It's not just hype, or vanity on the part of the youngsters: People who are 18-29 right now have markedly different attitudes, beliefs, and mores than any generation preceding them.

    This infographic by Online Graduate Programs does a good job of summing up all that data. Let's start with a definition of the generation, and their politics:

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    It's that second panel about politics that's really surprising: The percentage voting for Obama represents the largest age-based disparity ever recorded. It's worth pausing on that for a second, because voting, contrary to popular opinion, doesn't tend to change all that much as you age. Political scientists have consistently shown that who you vote for as a young person tends to define your voting patterns for the rest of your life. Thus, some people have concluded that the entire millennial generation has been "lost" to Republicans. (And if you think that they'll change their minds because of Obama's first-term struggles, think again: 60% blame his opponents for his inability to get anything done.)

    But where the differences become truly stark are in lifestyle. Millennials are the most godless, least-married, and most tech-savvy generation ever:

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    Does that matter? In a word, yes: Sociologists have shown that being born in a recession dampens your earnings throughout your lifetime, simply because the first jobs you get are the ones that define much of your success in later life. Almost all the wage increases that you'll get arrive before you're 40. Thus, if you enter the workforce and struggle to find a job, you'll be consistently hobbled by a lack of experience and tenure.

    But maybe that's a good thing. It may be that millennials are a generation apart in one sense that hasn't shown up yet in the data: Plagued by dead-end career prospects, many seem to have turned to everything from crafts to self-improvement as a way to find meaning outside of what they do. A less materialistic, more happiness-focused generation seems like a very good thing given how obsessed America has been with simply getting more, no matter what. But it might also be that a lack of prospects makes this generation the most entrepreneurial we've ever seen--after all, innovation is usually born during times of hardship.
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    Dec 17, 2011 11:55 PM GMT
    I dont like being 40 lol but I am glad I was born when I was.I think parents of my generation are the worst ever.Most dont know what the word discipline means.They think spanking is worse than a foul mouthed pot smoking brat.Damn I miss the 1980's.If you think children should just be allowed to run wild and be raised by their peers then I may change my mind about abortion on demand!
  • Trepeat

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    Dec 18, 2011 12:18 AM GMT
    I'm very curious to see how a generation practically raised by the internet will differ in ideleolgy and culture by the time we're middle-aged.
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    Dec 18, 2011 12:23 AM GMT
    Trepeat saidI'm very curious to see how a generation practically raised by the internet will differ in ideleolgy and culture by the time we're middle-aged.


    By the time we're middle aged.....we'll have moved on from the Internet to VR (virtual reality) pods...
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    Dec 18, 2011 12:27 AM GMT
    Because the chart mentioned politics, thought I would mention a thread on a poll from Harvard pertaining to millennials. I know a lot of guys like to steer clear of politics, so just making the reference here, not trying to encourage a political discussion in this thread.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2036673
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    Dec 18, 2011 12:35 AM GMT
    As a Millennial myself, I have to admit that quite a few of my generation feel entitled to this and that after college. At least I see this with some of my friends. It's become more noticeable as more Millennials continue to graduate from college with the economy and job market in a down spin. Sometimes I think they forget that you have to start at the bottom of the barrel and work your way up like everyone else. That's how my parents (Baby Boomers) and brother (Gen X) got shit done. It took them a long time to get to where they wanted, but they seem satisfied that their years of hard work paid off.

    Nevertheless, I always thought adversity and hardship while you're young could be a blessing in disguise. Sure, many 20-somethings aren't having much luck, but I like to think hard times can lead them to figure out their priorities and put things into perspective. At least that's what I've gotten out of my first few years since finishing school. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, eh?

    Besides, I'm quite happy being godless and unmarried anyway icon_cool.gif
  • barriehomeboy

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    Dec 18, 2011 2:06 AM GMT
    But are you happy being you?
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    Dec 18, 2011 2:11 AM GMT
    pocketnico saidAs a Millennial myself, I have to admit that quite a few of my generation feel entitled to this and that after college. At least I see this with some of my friends. It's become more noticeable as more Millennials continue to graduate from college with the economy and job market in a down spin. Sometimes I think they forget that you have to start at the bottom of the barrel and work your way up like everyone else. That's how my parents (Baby Boomers) and brother (Gen X) got shit done. It took them a long time to get to where they wanted, but they seem satisfied that their years of hard work paid off.

    Nevertheless, I always thought adversity and hardship while you're young could be a blessing in disguise. Sure, many 20-somethings aren't having much luck, but I like to think hard times can lead them to figure out their priorities and put things into perspective. At least that's what I've gotten out of my first few years since finishing school. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, eh?

    Besides, I'm quite happy being godless and unmarried anyway icon_cool.gif


    Well put.
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    Dec 18, 2011 2:18 AM GMT
    Nice info... I'm a milennial and I felt identified with those facts.
  • monstapex

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    Dec 18, 2011 2:20 AM GMT
    Millennials seem to be the least talented when it comes to entertainment .Their music sucks . TV and movies stink .And todays fiction writers are awful.But i guess you can't blame them .Everything has been done,
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    Dec 18, 2011 2:26 AM GMT
    monstapex saidMillennials seem to be the least talented when it comes to entertainment .Their music sucks . TV and movies stink .And todays fiction writers are awful.But i guess you can't blame them .Everything has been done,


    LOL! Funny, because 90% of my favorite music is from the '80s and '90s. Of course, those are the two decades in which I grew up. Somehow I feel music really started to go downhill around 2005 and after. Or maybe it's because I'm getting old and don't care about anyone younger than me? Who knows.
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    Dec 18, 2011 2:29 AM GMT
    If this country becomes productive again, your generation will do well enough and hopefully that will be the case. But I wouldn't be surprised to find that by the time society figures out how to pay for this mess (I'm not convinced that this has been a run of the mill recession), that the standard of living diminishes for most Americans across the generations such that it will be difficult to differentiate the pain of the trees though the pain of the forest.
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    Dec 18, 2011 2:59 AM GMT
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    monstapex saidMillennials seem to be the least talented when it comes to entertainment .Their music sucks . TV and movies stink .And todays fiction writers are awful.But i guess you can't blame them .Everything has been done,


    LOL! Funny, because 90% of my favorite music is from the '80s and '90s. Of course, those are the two decades in which I grew up. Somehow I feel music really started to go downhill around 2005 and after. Or maybe it's because I'm getting old and don't care about anyone younger than me? Who knows.


    Funny, I think there are people today who are making really good music, in fact better than a few years ago. I think part of it is that there are a bunch of groups and directors who grew up on the music and movies that I liked the first time around (80's and early 90's). I saw The Airborne Toxic Event and Death Cab for Cutie last weekend and my partner and I would look over at each other and say things like, "Oh, early Cure" or "Joy Division", or....

    I'd hate to think I'd ever be at a point in my life that I couldn't appreciate ANYTHING new.

    (I have to admit, I've pretty much ignored the most recent reality-show revival, but I did the last time, too!)
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    Dec 18, 2011 5:20 AM GMT
    Love being a millenial. I think it's great being a part of a generation where you can be extremely different, or even an outcast...and still find in some form or fashion, a way to belong to a group of people.

    I think we'll be the reason why marijuana becomes legal, which ultimately will create a cash-crop boom, giving us an economic pickup and that's where the real fun begins...what our generation will do with a surplus not just in government budgets, but on a societal-level.

    I hope...hope hope hope hope hope hope hope...we get back into the space frontier. It would behoove us to become a heavy component in space exploration/research/discovery
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    Dec 18, 2011 5:29 AM GMT
    pocketnico said
    monstapex saidMillennials seem to be the least talented when it comes to entertainment .Their music sucks . TV and movies stink .And todays fiction writers are awful.But i guess you can't blame them .Everything has been done,


    LOL! Funny, because 90% of my favorite music is from the '80s and '90s. Of course, those are the two decades in which I grew up. Somehow I feel music really started to go downhill around 2005 and after. Or maybe it's because I'm getting old and don't care about anyone younger than me? Who knows.


    To me, music went downhill in the 80's and 90's.. the exact decades I was alive in.... I only REALLY like music from before I was born...
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    Dec 18, 2011 5:36 AM GMT
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    pocketnico said
    monstapex saidMillennials seem to be the least talented when it comes to entertainment .Their music sucks . TV and movies stink .And todays fiction writers are awful.But i guess you can't blame them .Everything has been done,


    LOL! Funny, because 90% of my favorite music is from the '80s and '90s. Of course, those are the two decades in which I grew up. Somehow I feel music really started to go downhill around 2005 and after. Or maybe it's because I'm getting old and don't care about anyone younger than me? Who knows.


    To me, music went downhill in the 80's and 90's.. the exact decades I was alive in.... I only REALLY like music from before I was born...


    Haha. I guess it just depends which decade and which part of the world. For example, I don't care too much for any Spanish music before the 1980s because there was limited freedom of expression in Spain, Portugal, and Latin America due to military dictatorships. Musicians couldn't really take much risk with their material, so there were a lot of boring-ass love songs. I'm glad the '80s finally started to bring some variety!
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    Dec 18, 2011 5:37 AM GMT
    there's also a lot about the millennial generation that's nothing to write home about... highlights include being arrogant, feeling self-entitled to everything, having a poor work ethic, hating to do things the hard way, not appreciating the process (as opposed to the end product), and being unable to take criticism.
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    GreenHopper said
    pocketnico said
    monstapex saidMillennials seem to be the least talented when it comes to entertainment .Their music sucks . TV and movies stink .And todays fiction writers are awful.But i guess you can't blame them .Everything has been done,


    LOL! Funny, because 90% of my favorite music is from the '80s and '90s. Of course, those are the two decades in which I grew up. Somehow I feel music really started to go downhill around 2005 and after. Or maybe it's because I'm getting old and don't care about anyone younger than me? Who knows.


    To me, music went downhill in the 80's and 90's.. the exact decades I was alive in.... I only REALLY like music from before I was born...


    Really? Michael Jackson's "Thriller" and Prince's "Purple Rain" were masterpieces. Purple Rain defined my childhood. My Mom and Aunt played it religiously. Plus, Whitney Houston...Oh my God, music from the 80s was/still is one of the most awesome music periods in time.
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    Dec 18, 2011 5:42 AM GMT
    calibro saidthere's also a lot about the millennial generation that's nothing to write home about... highlights include being arrogant, feeling self-entitled to everything, having a poor work ethic, hating to do things the hard way, not appreciating the process (as opposed to the end product), and being unable to take criticism.


    True that... you should have heard the kids in my medical school who were all under thirty... all they did was complain about school, about the teachers, about the material... They were not bad kids, but they were SO spoiled...
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    GreenHopper said
    pocketnico said
    monstapex saidMillennials seem to be the least talented when it comes to entertainment .Their music sucks . TV and movies stink .And todays fiction writers are awful.But i guess you can't blame them .Everything has been done,


    LOL! Funny, because 90% of my favorite music is from the '80s and '90s. Of course, those are the two decades in which I grew up. Somehow I feel music really started to go downhill around 2005 and after. Or maybe it's because I'm getting old and don't care about anyone younger than me? Who knows.


    To me, music went downhill in the 80's and 90's.. the exact decades I was alive in.... I only REALLY like music from before I was born...


    Really? Michael Jackson's "Thriller" and Prince's "Purple Rain" were masterpieces. Purple Rain defined my childhood. My Mom and Aunt played it religiously. Plus, Whitney Houston...Oh my God, music from the 80s was/still is one of the most awesome music periods in time.


    Meh, i like those songs.. but I still way prefer music from the fourties (jazz), fifties (rock n roll) sixties (folk) and seventies (disco)
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    GreenHopper said
    calibro saidthere's also a lot about the millennial generation that's nothing to write home about... highlights include being arrogant, feeling self-entitled to everything, having a poor work ethic, hating to do things the hard way, not appreciating the process (as opposed to the end product), and being unable to take criticism.


    True that... you should have heard the kids in my medical school who were all under thirty... all they did was complain about school, about the teachers, about the material... They were not bad kids, but they were SO spoiled...


    Indeed quite a few of this generation are. However, I think a big dose of reality will fix that considering the state of affairs in the United States. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 18, 2011 5:48 AM GMT
    I think some people are just jealous that the millenial generation is the turning point in human existence. We will be defining the ideologies that will encompass the world for the next 100 years. There should be more encouragement for those that will lay the foundation that our culture will be rebuilt upon.
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    Dec 18, 2011 5:54 AM GMT
    pocketnico said
    GreenHopper said
    calibro saidthere's also a lot about the millennial generation that's nothing to write home about... highlights include being arrogant, feeling self-entitled to everything, having a poor work ethic, hating to do things the hard way, not appreciating the process (as opposed to the end product), and being unable to take criticism.


    True that... you should have heard the kids in my medical school who were all under thirty... all they did was complain about school, about the teachers, about the material... They were not bad kids, but they were SO spoiled...


    Indeed quite a few of this generation are. However, I think a big dose of reality will fix that considering the state of affairs in the United States. icon_rolleyes.gif


    My friend who herself is in her forties said it was partly the baby boomer's faults.. they grew up in a time where there was this new idealism in which they believed their own parents' way of raising them was not adequate, and the subsequent generations have been raised with this idea of very little discipline and mostly catering to their children's whims.... As if we had to "nurture our kids' free sprits" like a bunch of hippies lol.... so once these kids enter the "real world" they turn into whiny three-year olds lol icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 18, 2011 5:56 AM GMT
    ConfederateGhost saidI think some people are just jealous that the millenial generation is the turning point in human existence. We will be defining the ideologies that will encompass the world for the next 100 years. There should be more encouragement for those that will lay the foundation that our culture will be rebuilt upon.


    I highly doubt we are jealous or it is a turning point babe.... the biggest cultural revolutions (sexual, revolution of women, human rights, green etc) have all been firmly estabished in the 60's, by our parents... there is very little new ideology out there now....
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    Dec 18, 2011 5:56 AM GMT
    Well, you also have to consider families today are smaller than previous generations. My parents are Baby Boomers, and both of them are from fairly big families by today's standards with 3+ siblings. Most of my friends are only kids like me or have one or two siblings at most. So I suppose parents have more opportunities to spoil kids now that they're having fewer of them.