Does the Black LGBTQ Community Fail to Support Its Own?

  • metta

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    Dec 18, 2011 7:06 PM GMT
    Does the Black LGBTQ Community Fail to Support Its Own?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/irene-monroe/black-lgbtq-community-doe_b_1150543.html
  • E_84

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    Dec 18, 2011 7:41 PM GMT
    Am I surprised that the e-zine has fold and support is lacking among gay and lesbian African-Americans?

    No.

    African-Americans are by far the most homophobic race/community to exist. They simply don't think that being Gay and/or Lesbian is natural. A reason why many men are still closeted. In addition, most of African-americans are a part of some denomination of Christianity. Most Christians believe that the scriptures say it's a sin to indulge in such behavior. This is just the beginning to the entangled issue of this.
  • Havenjock80

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    Dec 18, 2011 7:43 PM GMT
    African Americans have a long way to go! when it comes to acceptance
  • tuffguyndc

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    Dec 18, 2011 7:47 PM GMT
    E_84 saidAm I surprised that the e-zine has fold and support is lacking among gay and lesbian African-Americans?

    No.

    African-Americans are by far the most homophobic race/community to exist. They simply don't think that being Gay and/or Lesbian is natural. A reason why many men are still closeted. In addition, most of African-americans are a part of some denomination of Christianity. Most Christians believe that the scriptures say it's a sin to indulge in such behavior. This is just the beginning to the entangled issue of this.
    While I feel the same way as you do. I think the latin culture is just as bad bro
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    Dec 18, 2011 7:57 PM GMT
    that's all cultures. It has a lot to do with your location
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    Dec 18, 2011 8:02 PM GMT
    Nope. Not at all. My family is Southern Baptist. I'm out to everyone but my family. Which sucks....

    They will say things like "It's nasty enough when "they" are young. But its even worse when "they" are old. "

    Or my personal favorite "Let "them" get married but don't let "them" have kids. Kids should not be exposed to that kind of lifestyle..its not natural"


    Now I love my family. But sometimes I don't like them or their biggot views.
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    Dec 18, 2011 8:04 PM GMT
    tuffguyndc said
    While I feel the same way as you do. I think the latin culture is just as bad bro

    I am not sure this is entirely the case. This is a breakdown of the status of rights for gay people by continent :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Africa

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_South_America

    Note that even within the Americas, the countries with the toughest anti gay laws are those in which there is a majority/significant African community ( Jamaica, Trinidad and Tabago etc..)

    The Latin community should be applauded in its progress (legal) towards gays.
  • tuffguyndc

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    Dec 18, 2011 8:11 PM GMT
    tanlejos said
    tuffguyndc said
    While I feel the same way as you do. I think the latin culture is just as bad bro

    I am not sure this is entirely the case. This is a breakdown of the status of rights for gay people by continent :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Africa

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_South_America

    Not that even within the Americas, the countries with the toughest anti gay laws are those in which there is a majority/significant African community ( Jamaica, Trinidad and Tabago etc..)

    The Latin community should be applauded in its progress (legal) towards gays.
    Yeah but we are talking about in America. South America is bad for gays too. I have tons of buddies from South America, Puerto Rico, and Mexico they all say it is pretty difficult to be openly gay in there country.
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    Dec 18, 2011 8:16 PM GMT
    Xhris_19_FL saidNope. Not at all. My family is Southern Baptist. I'm out to everyone but my family. Which sucks....

    They will say things like "It's nasty enough when "they" are young. But its even worse when "they" are old. "

    Or my personal favorite "Let "them" get married but don't let "them" have kids. Kids should not be exposed to that kind of lifestyle..its not natural"


    Now I love my family. But sometimes I don't like them or their biggot views.


    True dat. Your family sounds like mine. They are a mixture of Episcopalian and Jehovah's Witnesses.
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    Dec 18, 2011 8:19 PM GMT
    Hmmmmm.


    I have mixed feelings about this article, because I'm not really sure what the argument is. I think that part of the issue for these magazines is that they don't have a clear mission statement.

  • ja89

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    Dec 18, 2011 8:19 PM GMT
    Xhris_19_FL saidNope. Not at all. My family is Southern Baptist. I'm out to everyone but my family. Which sucks....

    They will say things like "It's nasty enough when "they" are young. But its even worse when "they" are old. "

    Or my personal favorite "Let "them" get married but don't let "them" have kids. Kids should not be exposed to that kind of lifestyle..its not natural"


    Now I love my family. But sometimes I don't like them or their biggot views.


    When the "they" and "them" comments start to happen, I start my arguments and shut "them" the hell up. I'm a Southern Baptist as well but I'm not out to my family. One thing my family has learned from me personally is to not judge because someone is different. They still do it at times, I keep reminding them "what if it were you?" No need for Bigotry and Disconnect among our families and people in general. Funny how all of these Christians follow so many scriptures of their choice but fail to follow the rest.

    before I take this off topic let me stop and address the OP.....truth
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    Dec 18, 2011 8:21 PM GMT
    From what I get out of the Article, they are trying to do what black magazines have done in the straight community, but there are so many factors that make that difficult if not impossible.

    Comparing to Ebony and Jet made no sense.
  • honeybadger

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    Dec 18, 2011 9:19 PM GMT
    Why does the LGBTQ community have to be segregated?
    I'm not really with that program...
    It's not like we're over 50% of the population.
    I always believed there is strength in numbers and diversity.
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    Dec 18, 2011 10:05 PM GMT
    honeybadger saidWhy does the LGBTQ community have to be segregated?
    I'm not really with that program...
    It's not like we're over 50% of the population.
    I always believed there is strength in numbers and diversity.


    Well said!
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    Dec 18, 2011 10:08 PM GMT
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    Xhris_19_FL saidNope. Not at all. My family is Southern Baptist. I'm out to everyone but my family. Which sucks....

    They will say things like "It's nasty enough when "they" are young. But its even worse when "they" are old. "

    Or my personal favorite "Let "them" get married but don't let "them" have kids. Kids should not be exposed to that kind of lifestyle..its not natural"


    Now I love my family. But sometimes I don't like them or their biggot views.


    When the "they" and "them" comments start to happen, I start my arguments and shut "them" the hell up. I'm a Southern Baptist as well but I'm not out to my family. One thing my family has learned from me personally is to not judge because someone is different. They still do it at times, I keep reminding them "what if it were you?" No need for Bigotry and Disconnect among our families and people in general. Funny how all of these Christians follow so many scriptures of their choice but fail to follow the rest.

    before I take this off topic let me stop and address the OP.....truth
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    Dec 18, 2011 10:15 PM GMT
    Honestly, I kind of feel like this has more to do with having a poor business model and a product of low demand than it has to do with "Black LBGYTKZN" or whatever other letters/fragments that were brought into this.

    Almost all publications are struggling, even very mainstream publications. Throw in a target audience comprised of a double/triple minority demographic and this result is more probable than not. I do agree that the black community, particularly, the black religious community is pretty bigoted against gays. What doesn't help is that many of us stay in the closet for just that reason.
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    Dec 18, 2011 10:32 PM GMT
    I think I recall being told that African Americans have a term that is for gay but on the DL just for acceptance or there is was another one like Urban Sexual... Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I need to find that manual.
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    Dec 18, 2011 10:39 PM GMT
    Ryan_Andrew saidI think I recall being told that African Americans have a term that is for gay but on the DL just for acceptance or there is was another one like Urban Sexual... Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I need to find that manual.
    LOL are you kidding me? Really? Dude, being DL has nothing to with being gay. DL is just a term use by some black folks to help them cheat. Ultimately, it just means they are not out. White guys have been doing it for years but thanks to Oprah it is a term used to described a black man who is a cheater and not out.
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    Dec 18, 2011 11:49 PM GMT
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    E_84 saidAm I surprised that the e-zine has fold and support is lacking among gay and lesbian African-Americans?

    No.

    African-Americans are by far the most homophobic race/community to exist. They simply don't think that being Gay and/or Lesbian is natural. A reason why many men are still closeted. In addition, most of African-americans are a part of some denomination of Christianity. Most Christians believe that the scriptures say it's a sin to indulge in such behavior. This is just the beginning to the entangled issue of this.
    While I feel the same way as you do. I think the latin culture is just as bad bro


    I do not agree with this. While there is much homophobia in Latin culture (like most cultures) Latin America is lightyears ahead of Africa and African-Americans in terms acceptance of homosexuality. Those links tanlejos posted are a great example of how Latin America has come leaps and bounds ahead of mush of the world, especially Africa. There is no where in Latin America where governments have laws on the books to kill or harass gays like they do in most of Africa.

    Same sex marriage is legal in Argentina, Uruguay, and parts of Brazil, Mexico and soon to be Colombia.

    Not to mention that Latinos in California only slightly favored Prop 8 by 53%, while the bill passed with 52% overall support.

    Plus, there are many cities in Latin America (Rio, Buenos Aires, Sao Paulo, Puerto Vallarrata, Mexico City) that are premiere gay & lesbian travel destinations. Besides maybe Capetown, Africa has none of that....

  • FRE0

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    Dec 19, 2011 12:37 AM GMT
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    Xhris_19_FL saidNope. Not at all. My family is Southern Baptist. I'm out to everyone but my family. Which sucks....

    They will say things like "It's nasty enough when "they" are young. But its even worse when "they" are old. "

    Or my personal favorite "Let "them" get married but don't let "them" have kids. Kids should not be exposed to that kind of lifestyle..its not natural"


    Now I love my family. But sometimes I don't like them or their biggot views.


    True dat. Your family sounds like mine. They are a mixture of Episcopalian and Jehovah's Witnesses.


    But the Episcopal Church supports same-sex relationships; it is only a minority of Episcopalians who do not.
  • tuffguyndc

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    Dec 19, 2011 12:42 AM GMT
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    tuffguyndc said
    E_84 saidAm I surprised that the e-zine has fold and support is lacking among gay and lesbian African-Americans?

    No.

    African-Americans are by far the most homophobic race/community to exist. They simply don't think that being Gay and/or Lesbian is natural. A reason why many men are still closeted. In addition, most of African-americans are a part of some denomination of Christianity. Most Christians believe that the scriptures say it's a sin to indulge in such behavior. This is just the beginning to the entangled issue of this.
    While I feel the same way as you do. I think the latin culture is just as bad bro


    I do not agree with this. While there is much homophobia in Latin culture (like most cultures) Latin America is lightyears ahead of Africa and African-Americans in terms acceptance of homosexuality. Those links tanlejos posted are a great example of how Latin America has come leaps and bounds ahead of mush of the world, especially Africa. There is no where in Latin America where governments have laws on the books to kill or harass gays like they do in most of Africa.

    Same sex marriage is legal in Argentina, Uruguay, and parts of Brazil, Mexico and soon to be Colombia.

    Not to mention that Latinos in California only slightly favored Prop 8 by 53%, while the bill passed with 52% overall support.

    Plus, there are many cities in Latin America (Rio, Buenos Aires, Sao Paulo, Puerto Vallarrata, Mexico City) that are premiere gay & lesbian travel destinations. Besides maybe Capetown, Africa has none of that....

    Wow, I stand corrected
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    Xhris_19_FL saidNope. Not at all. My family is Southern Baptist. I'm out to everyone but my family. Which sucks....

    They will say things like "It's nasty enough when "they" are young. But its even worse when "they" are old. "

    Or my personal favorite "Let "them" get married but don't let "them" have kids. Kids should not be exposed to that kind of lifestyle..its not natural"


    Now I love my family. But sometimes I don't like them or their biggot views.


    True dat. Your family sounds like mine. They are a mixture of Episcopalian and Jehovah's Witnesses.


    But the Episcopal Church supports same-sex relationships; it is only a minority of Episcopalians who do not.


    They were baptists that converted. They pretty much ignore that part, and mostly disagree with it.
  • ohioguy12

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    Dec 19, 2011 2:00 AM GMT
    E_84 said
    African-Americans are by far the most homophobic race/community to exist. They simply don't think that being Gay and/or Lesbian is natural. A reason why many men are still closeted. In addition, most of African-americans are a part of some denomination of Christianity. Most Christians believe that the scriptures say it's a sin to indulge in such behavior. This is just the beginning to the entangled issue of this.


    I don't agree. I just think African Americans aren't afraid to speak their mind, while other ethnicities think the same way, but aren't as open about it.
  • groundcombat

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    Dec 19, 2011 2:20 AM GMT
    I don't think Blacks are more homophobic. At least not just because they're black. From my experiences, religious Blacks are just as homophobic as religious Whites. Same seems to be true for education level. Uneducated whites tend to be homophobic, just like uneducated Blacks. In short, I don't think it's "a Black thing" so much as how Blacks are strongly represented in the religious and uneducated demographics.
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    E_84 said
    African-Americans are by far the most homophobic race/community to exist. They simply don't think that being Gay and/or Lesbian is natural. A reason why many men are still closeted. In addition, most of African-americans are a part of some denomination of Christianity. Most Christians believe that the scriptures say it's a sin to indulge in such behavior. This is just the beginning to the entangled issue of this.


    I don't agree. I just think African Americans aren't afraid to speak their mind, while other ethnicities think the same way, but aren't as open about it.


    Wouldn't keeping your mouth shut be a good thing? It's called being a mature adult...icon_confused.gif