Disturbing Kids Book

  • swimbikerun

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    Jun 12, 2008 6:42 PM GMT
    Is it for real?

    http://slightlywarped.com/crapfactory/curiosities/disturbingkidsbook.htm
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    Jun 12, 2008 7:02 PM GMT
    The story is heartbreaking. I was molested as a child ( will not go into detail ) The implications of this book go beyond disturbing and fall under disgusting. As far as I'm concerned it's a cruel mind fuck directed towards a violated, very confused, scared child.
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    Jun 12, 2008 7:25 PM GMT
    I think I saw the same book on the AfterElton.com website several months ago. It was written by some hopelessly ignorant homophobe who thinks that homosexuality is "unnatural" and can usually be traced back to childhood abuse.

    Ridiculous nonsense that anybody with any intelligence or ability to rationalize would dismiss almost immediately.
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    Jun 12, 2008 7:37 PM GMT
    Sad and disgusting. And even more sad is that people believe this crap. When I came out, my parents asked if someone molested me as a kid. icon_eek.gif
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    Jun 12, 2008 7:48 PM GMT
    ...I think I'm going to be sick icon_cry.gif

    that is terrible...

    and you know damn well there are people who believe that, people who argue that, people who will stand for that.

    It makes me sick.
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    Jun 12, 2008 7:51 PM GMT
    Why would someone even publish a book like that? The scary part is that there are people out there who would buy it thinking that it is OK to give to kids.... icon_eek.gif
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    Jun 12, 2008 8:00 PM GMT
    z_squared saidSad and disgusting. And even more sad is that people believe this crap. When I came out, my parents asked if someone molested me as a kid. icon_eek.gif

    Me too! lol
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    Jun 12, 2008 8:43 PM GMT
    I write kid's books, and I know several editors and people who work for publishers. No real publisher would publish a book like that.

    If it is even a real book (I suspect it's not) then it was probably self published (anyone can publish anything of they wanna pay for it) or published by some freako weird group (I'm not saying a christian group, mikephil, just a weird freako group....prolly more like scientologists).
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    Jun 12, 2008 8:53 PM GMT
    It makes me really sad to see that kind of stuff. It talks about rape and it somehow encourages homophobia. Things seem to be getting worse in this crazy world!
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    Jun 12, 2008 8:54 PM GMT
    This is disturbing that people feel this way. What publisher would publish this type of crap. If a child read this book they would be scarred. Im tired of people thinking that homosexuality can disappear with a hug and some parental attention.
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    Jun 12, 2008 8:58 PM GMT
    No doubt this was published by some far right "family" organization. They are heavily invested in the idea that all homosexuality stems from sexual abuse and that people who think they're gay can really leave the "homosexual lifestyle" simply by undergoing "conversion" or "repairative" therapy.

    What's really sad is there are a lot of gay uncles and aunts out there who wouldn't dream of molesting their young relatives, nor have any interest in that, but material like this brands those people as the target of suspicion.
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    Jun 12, 2008 9:10 PM GMT
    well, according to this video...its not even a real book:

    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/915149/the_most_confusing_disturbing_children_book_in_the_world/
  • HereNBoston

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    Jun 12, 2008 9:11 PM GMT
    Sadly, I'm not even shocked like that. I've seen some really horrible stuff published by chick productions. they make comics for kids and while some are hilarious in their absurdity, the rest are just downright scary.
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    Jun 12, 2008 9:13 PM GMT
    tommysguns2000 saidwell, according to this video...its not even a real book:

    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/915149/the_most_confusing_disturbing_children_book_in_the_world/


    good catch. I think people need to send him a few comments about his definition of "entertainment"
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    Jun 12, 2008 9:17 PM GMT
    tommysguns2000 saidwell, according to this video...its not even a real book


    Hmmm I was hoping for something more convincing than some guy simply stating the book is fictional.

    From all the pictures, it does appear to be a real book. My guess is that there are very few copies of it.
    A friend of mine showed me a beautiful coffee table book that she had made of photos she had taken, all for a reasonable fee.
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    Jun 12, 2008 9:23 PM GMT
    I went back to AfterElton.com, and I think I came across the same book. Supposedly written by a member of the ex-gay movement (last name of Cohen) who was molested when he was younger. Like other members of the ex-gays, he believes that you can "cure" homosexuality (as if it was a disease), because it has its' basis in unhealthy relationships with important males in a gay mans childhood. Pop pyschology at its' worse. Even the founder of Primal Therapy (Arthur Janov) has come to the conclusion that homosexuality is basically present at birth, and no amount of therapy will change a person's sexual orientation. Initially Dr. Janov was not of that viewpoint.

    Trying to convince some people that sexual orientation is not a choice is like trying to convince some people that the earth was not created 6,600 years ago.
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    Jun 12, 2008 11:29 PM GMT
    While this book is disturbing, it is not even slightly unexpected - this clearly states using words and pictures what fundamentalist religions really believe is the truth behind being gay.

    It is exactly for this reason that I think Gay Pride, being openly gay, and being a positive role-model for our youth is so very important.
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    Jun 12, 2008 11:41 PM GMT
    makeumyne saidWhile this book is disturbing, it is not even slightly unexpected - this clearly states using words and pictures what fundamentalist religions really believe is the truth behind being gay.

    It is exactly for this reason that I think Gay Pride, being openly gay, and being a positive role-model for our youth is so very important.


    I got very lucky. Even though I was raised in a very conservative family when I did come out years after being molested my parents didn't even question if that had anything to do with my sexuality. I was pretty young at the time, but I do recall the therapist they took me to after they found out I was being molested told them that it would not define my sexuality as an adult but may have consequences as to my sexual appetite as I developed through adolescents. So I guess they did think it was possible and thats why they asked the therapist about it. Hmmmm... never thought of that until now. Thank God the therapist covered that.
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    Jun 12, 2008 11:46 PM GMT
    JBE60 saidI went back to AfterElton.com, and I think I came across the same book. Supposedly written by a member of the ex-gay movement (last name of Cohen) who was molested when he was younger. Like other members of the ex-gays, he believes that you can "cure" homosexuality (as if it was a disease), because it has its' basis in unhealthy relationships with important males in gay mans childhood.

    I'm sure you're talking about Richard Cohen.
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    Jun 12, 2008 11:53 PM GMT
    Excellent work JBE60 and Global_Citizen!

    Confirmed, it is (was) a REAL BOOK:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_A._Cohen

    Alfie's Home (1993) ISBN 0-9637058-0-6, self-published.

    http://www.amazon.com/Alfies-Home-Richard-Cohen/dp/0963705806

    What a wingnut!
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    Jun 12, 2008 11:57 PM GMT
    swimbikerun saidExcellent work Global_Citizen!

    Confirmed, it is (was) a REAL BOOK:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_A._Cohen

    Alfie's Home (1993) ISBN 0-9637058-0-6, self-published.

    http://www.amazon.com/Alfies-Home-Richard-Cohen/dp/0963705806

    What a wingnut!


    So he published it himself? Wow!
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    Jun 13, 2008 12:17 AM GMT
    Reading the book and Cohen's bio make me want to distance myself from the subject. I feel ambivalent that despite all the negative things said about Cohen, a part of me agrees that he is making sense.
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    Jun 13, 2008 12:26 AM GMT
    jsttennis77 said[quote][cite]swimbikerun said[/cite]Excellent work Global_Citizen!

    Confirmed, it is (was) a REAL BOOK:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_A._Cohen

    Alfie's Home (1993) ISBN 0-9637058-0-6, self-published.

    http://www.amazon.com/Alfies-Home-Richard-Cohen/dp/0963705806

    What a wingnut!


    So he published it himself? Wow![/quote]

    Did you read the reviews at Amazon.com? The scary part is that there are people who are singing his praises! And they talk about a "Homosexual" agenda... I think we all should bombard Amazon with e-mails demanding they remove it from the site... icon_twisted.gif
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    Jun 13, 2008 12:30 AM GMT
    It is great to know that there are people out there who's agenda is more important than actual help for children in that situation.
  • swimbikerun

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    Jun 13, 2008 12:42 AM GMT
    Of course, the book and many of the Amazon.com comments are many years old. Things change, I hope. We'll see how Californians vote about whether to ban same-sex marriage this November.