Is it just me or do gay guys tend to use more benzos (Valium, Xanax, Klonopin,etc.) than straight guys?

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    Dec 20, 2011 3:34 PM GMT
    NB! I'd like a comparison with straight MEN since I know women use them more than men.
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    Dec 20, 2011 3:57 PM GMT
    Its just you

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    Dec 20, 2011 4:00 PM GMT
    Claystation saidIts just you

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    Are you sure about that? I've read a few articles that say we use drugs more AND I've known many guys who were given benzodiazepines when they were having dramas.
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    Dec 20, 2011 4:00 PM GMT
    One word: Drama

    *runs like hell*
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    Dec 20, 2011 4:06 PM GMT
    swimguychicago said
    Claystation saidIts just you

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    Are you sure about that? I've read a few articles that say we use drugs more AND I've known many guys who were given benzodiazepines when they were having dramas.


    Well considering people think that being gay can be "fixed" its no surprise that people may be using these drugs. But, that doesn't change the fact that most younger kids are using these drugs too, or did these articles do a specific age range?
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    Dec 20, 2011 4:06 PM GMT
    njmeanwhile saidOne word: Drama

    *runs like hell*


    Yeah, I think gay guys use it to tamp down the drama.
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    Dec 20, 2011 4:07 PM GMT
    Claystation said
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    Claystation saidIts just you

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    Are you sure about that? I've read a few articles that say we use drugs more AND I've known many guys who were given benzodiazepines when they were having dramas.


    Well considering people think that being gay can be "fixed" its no surprise that people may be using these drugs. But, that doesn't change the fact that most younger kids are using these drugs too, or did these articles do a specific age range?


    Nope it talked about the gay community.
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    Dec 20, 2011 4:11 PM GMT
    swimguychicago said
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    Claystation saidIts just you

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    Are you sure about that? I've read a few articles that say we use drugs more AND I've known many guys who were given benzodiazepines when they were having dramas.


    Well considering people think that being gay can be "fixed" its no surprise that people may be using these drugs. But, that doesn't change the fact that most younger kids are using these drugs too, or did these articles do a specific age range?


    Nope it talked about the gay community.


    The other thing is that gay men are less likely to subscribe to the idea that to be male means to be tough, independent and unshakable. Straight men may well be taking these things, too, but would be less likely to discuss it for fear of looking weak. Since gay men, like women are "supposed" to be more emotional, there is less of a stigma (and in some circles I would even say a cachet) around it, e.g. my drama is bigger than your drama.
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    Dec 20, 2011 4:13 PM GMT
    swimguychicago said
    Nope it talked about the gay community.


    I'm talking about the straight community, also I am willing to bet that these statistics are looked at from a "prescription" point of view and not an illegally obtained one.

    Meh, I'll need some articles before I decide whether to take this seriously.
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    Dec 20, 2011 4:13 PM GMT
    Your profile lists your locations as Chicago, London and Rio de Janeiro.

    Did you ever consider that maybe your geographic placement has more to do with the number of medicated individuals you know than their sexuality?



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    Dec 20, 2011 4:37 PM GMT
    So far I found this link (mostly talking about the "gay lifestyle") and its riddled with bullshit, granted it was done back in '03

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2003/nov/09/drugsandalcohol.drugs

    It focuses around the "gay scene" being bar and club orientated, then speculates that those bars and clubs carry drugs (of all kinds) and is hedonistic. With this analysis they say that this goes hand in hand. Basically saying that if you frequent a gay bar, you're doing drugs.........um that's flat out bullshit.

    That's like saying

    "oh you wear over sized clothing? You must be a gangster because baggy clothing and gangs go hand in hand."

    my eyes roll-eth

    Unless you have some other links or articles to present?
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    Dec 20, 2011 4:42 PM GMT
    I think gay men are more likely than straight men to seek psychological services.
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    Dec 20, 2011 4:43 PM GMT
    I have bottles and bottles of Klonopin in my desk drawer, but I don't use it anymore. I think coping skills and preparing yourself for stress when it comes upon you helps more than pills possibly could.

    But there was a time when I didn't take the proper mental health route, and I couldn't stop my mind from racing -- and that's when they did help and were appropriate.

    I'm very sure someone's sexuality doesn't matter though, we all go through the same problems no matter who we are (relationships! family! career! more family! it's the recession!).
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    Dec 20, 2011 4:59 PM GMT
    As someone who works in a pharmacy, I can tell you that EVERYONE is on this shit. Men, women, old, young, black, white, straight, gay, whatever.

    Seriously, I can't even count how many prescriptions for these things we make up in a day. It's absolutely disgusting. Doctors prescribe these like they are fucking vitamins. Then people wonder why pharmacies are being robbed and innocent people are being shot and killed by junkies.
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    Dec 20, 2011 5:04 PM GMT
    I don't think you can make that kind of generalization. It largely comes from the stereotypical image of gay men being portrayed as 'damaged'.

    Whether it's a feeling of inferiority, rejection from society for being an outsider, self hating etc these feelings are not unique to gay men. In fact, I'd say that it's more an issue of culture than an issue of sexuality.

    In the U.K we do not have advertisements on the television for anti depressants etc, that would be seen as bizarre since we are not by and large a self medicating people. Whereas in the U.S these types of advertisements seem quite common, listing a range of symptoms that any 'normal' individual may have at any given time.

    It's this culture of 'drug pushing' that I feel makes people more susceptible to the use of various kinds of anti depressants/mood altering drugs, not their sexuality.
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    Dec 20, 2011 5:04 PM GMT
    I'll have a little bit of all of them please :-)
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    Dec 20, 2011 5:11 PM GMT
    A lot of people need these.....but a lot of doctors need to push therapy first instead of just medicating to compensate for issues that need addressed icon_smile.gif.
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    Dec 20, 2011 5:14 PM GMT
    countrycityboy saidAs someone who works in a pharmacy, I can tell you that EVERYONE is on this shit. Men, women, old, young, black, white, straight, gay, whatever.

    Seriously, I can't even count how many prescriptions for these things we make up in a day. It's absolutely disgusting. Doctors prescribe these like they are fucking vitamins. Then people wonder why pharmacies are being robbed and innocent people are being shot and killed by junkies.


    This is what concerns me. I know a number of people who self-medicate, pass this stuff around, etc. I can't help but feel that many people are using to avoid coping with reality. I'm not saying that there is no legitimate need for meds like this... I just think our attitude about it has gotten way too casual.
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    Dec 20, 2011 5:30 PM GMT
    I think a more fair observation that I've made is that "younger" people tend to be open about needing these types of things from time to time, where as "older" people view it as something they should be afraid to admit.

    I work in a fairly young office with a lot of tight deadlines, and pretty much everyone under 35 talks about needing a Xanax here and there. We're very open about it, and have even bonded over what our anxiety triggers are.
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    Dec 20, 2011 5:47 PM GMT
    Greg0201 saidI think a more fair observation that I've made is that "younger" people tend to be open about needing these types of things from time to time, where as "older" people view it as something they should be afraid to admit.

    I work in a fairly young office with a lot of tight deadlines, and pretty much everyone under 35 talks about needing a Xanax here and there. We're very open about it, and have even bonded over what our anxiety triggers are.


    The "older" people grew up in a time when the norm was to experience your emotions, both positive and negative, rather than dulling them. The phenomenon of drug companies being permitted to convince people they need prescription meds, vs. a doctor making that decision with the patient, is a relatively new one.
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    Dec 20, 2011 5:56 PM GMT
    You don't know what you're talking about.

    This isn't about negative emotions. This is about feeling like your nervous system is taking over your entire body (i.e., panic attacks and anxiety).

    I will concur that these types of drugs should be taken very sporadically due to their addictive nature, and that, should you need something sustained and long-term, you should talk to someone to put you on one of the many other options out there.

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    Dec 20, 2011 6:05 PM GMT
    Greg0201 saidYou don't know what you're talking about.

    This isn't about negative emotions. This is about feeling like your nervous system is taking over your entire body (i.e., panic attacks and anxiety).

    I will concur that these types of drugs should be taken very sporadically due to their addictive nature, and that, should you need something sustained and long-term, you should talk to someone to put you on one of the many other options out there.



    I do know the difference between having a legitimate mental illness and not wanting to face stress. I do know that there are people in my life who do not have a mental illness, who obtain these things to cope with situations they don't want to deal with. They managed to survive just fine without them until they were introduced, and now they pop them like candy every time something makes them unhappy. And there are doctors who keep filling their prescription instead of suggesting they make the life changes required to fix their situation.

    I witnessed one of my friends nearly lose his job and and have his relationship end because of addiction to Adderol that a doctor was giving him regularly for years without even talking with him about whether it was working or not.

    I know someone else who is an alcoholic, taking Klonopin for depression, regularly drives while practically in a stupor. I had to distance myself from him because it was too distressing to watch.
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    Dec 20, 2011 6:31 PM GMT
    Asuguy2005 saidA lot of people need these.....but a lot of doctors need to push therapy first instead of just medicating to compensate for issues that need addressed icon_smile.gif.


    False. These drugs haven't even existed for longer than I've been alive. Medicating symptoms instead of treating problems is just a trap that denies reality.
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    Dec 20, 2011 6:45 PM GMT
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    Asuguy2005 saidA lot of people need these.....but a lot of doctors need to push therapy first instead of just medicating to compensate for issues that need addressed icon_smile.gif.


    False. These drugs haven't even existed for longer than I've been alive. Medicating symptoms instead of treating problems is just a trap that denies reality.


    To be fair there were plenty of people who used to either be shut-ins or institutionalized, who are now able to function in society due to meds. I'm not suggesting for a minute that there should be any stigma attached to legitimate mental illness, if you have in fact been diagnosed with one. Nor am I condoning the idea that people "suck it up" and deal with chronic depression or anxiety if there is something they can safely take for it.

    What disturbs me is people treating mood-altering medication like aspirin, giving it to other people who don't even know if it will react with something else they're taking, and doctors who encourage patients to use these as a means of coping with situational stress instead of exploring the causes and possible alternatives. As I stated, I'm watching at least three people in my life on this road and it is upsetting.
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    Dec 20, 2011 6:49 PM GMT
    Gay men and women have a higher incidence of mental disorders overall, so as a group we probably use more psychiatric drugs than other groups.