emmerdale Aarons story real gay guy not fem in any way..... why don't we ever see shows like this in the US?


  • Dec 21, 2011 1:48 AM GMT
    check out most intense coming out story 185 Aaron's Story 13th of May 2010 Part 3

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orrh54DN9v4&feature=related
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    Dec 21, 2011 4:48 AM GMT
    Prepare to get attacked. I agree but we're in the minority.
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    Dec 21, 2011 4:53 AM GMT
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orrh54DN9v4&feature=related
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    Dec 21, 2011 4:55 AM GMT
    The lawyer is Scott Neil who played Jamie in Beautiful Thing.

    I'm convinced the reason there are so few non-stereotypical gay male characters in the US media is because the US public wants on some level to believe all gay men are readily identifiable. There have been a few attempts to break the mold (including a sitcom called Normal, Ohio and one that's on now, Happy Endings) but they are few and far between.
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    Dec 21, 2011 5:07 AM GMT
    Because white Liberals want gays to be obedient, compliant, and docile.
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    Dec 21, 2011 5:08 AM GMT
    I really think that most straight do not want to know that there are masculine gay guys out there. I like the stereotypes. They figure if you are flaming or flamboyant than you are easy to read. Where if you are not than they do not know what they are getting
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    Dec 21, 2011 5:20 AM GMT
    thank you for the link, that was nice to see
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    Dec 21, 2011 5:25 AM GMT
    What is this from?!!??! I WANNA SEE ALL OF IT!!!! A movie? A British Soap? I DEMAND AN ANSWER NOW! Please? icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 21, 2011 5:38 AM GMT
    likewatuc saidWhat is this from?!!??! I WANNA SEE ALL OF IT!!!! A movie? A British Soap? I DEMAND AN ANSWER NOW! Please? icon_smile.gif


    I know I am now addicted to Aaron's Story like it's crack! icon_twisted.gif he is super sexy!
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    Dec 21, 2011 6:28 AM GMT
    njmeanwhile saidThe lawyer is Scott Neil who played Jamie in Beautiful Thing.

    I'm convinced the reason there are so few non-stereotypical gay male characters in the US media is because the US public wants on some level to believe all gay men are readily identifiable. There have been a few attempts to break the mold (including a sitcom called Normal, Ohio and one that's on now, Happy Endings) but they are few and far between.


    Not to be too nitpicky, but the actor is Scott Neal and he played Ste in the movie Beautiful Thing. icon_wink.gif

    He sure grew up to be quite a handsome young man, and continues to make a career for himself in television and film...
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    Dec 21, 2011 12:04 PM GMT
    likewatuc saidWhat is this from?!!??! I WANNA SEE ALL OF IT!!!! A movie? A British Soap? I DEMAND AN ANSWER NOW! Please? icon_smile.gif


    It's from a 5-nights-a- week prime time soap in the UK. I don't watch it but our soaps tend to be a quite 'out there' and tackle issues. I think the show has been running for around 20 years.

    But... more importantly, yes, he's hot!
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    Dec 21, 2011 12:34 PM GMT
    You can find "real" gay men on shows like The Wire, Six feet under and most recently Happy endings. You can also find them on daytime soaps but you probably wouldn't watch those because you're a "real gay".
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    Dec 21, 2011 12:40 PM GMT
    Woah, spoilers! icon_razz.gif
    This show plays during the day at the gym I'm at. Of course there is no sound but you can get the gist of it... not up to this part yet tho.
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    Dec 21, 2011 1:09 PM GMT
    outdoorsmuscleguy saidwhy don't we ever see shows like this in the US?
    Because the closeted homophobes are too busy voting away our rights to "prove" how straight they are, and having more shows like that would expose them for the corrupt liars they are.
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    Dec 21, 2011 1:13 PM GMT
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    outdoorsmuscleguy saidwhy don't we ever see shows like this in the US?
    Because the closeted homophobes are too busy voting away our rights to "prove" how straight they are, and having more shows like that would expose them for the corrupt liars they are.


    Controversial! But true... a large number of British TV execs are openly gay. I think all our soaps have central characters who are gay.... or characters who just happen to be gay. Whereas Hollywood is run by guys mainly still in the closet. Just sayin'
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    Dec 21, 2011 1:25 PM GMT
    I think a lot of this is due to the fact that straight men in North America are notoriously sensitive about their masculinity. If you show them a lot of gay men who are just as butch, or even more so then they are, it provokes their insecurities and makes them angry.

    Funny how one guy at my work a few weeks ago considered gay men akin to being a women. The media has pretty much warped the entire views of a generation, turning men into queeny jesters meant to titillate and degrade themselves for comedy, or worse, as complete emotional wrecks incapable of finding happiness.

    Bottom line, I think, is that people want to be able to easily identify, laugh at, and look down on gay people because its much easier to do then consider that a gay person might actually be more manly, successful, or happy then they are.
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    Dec 21, 2011 1:32 PM GMT
    Matty_WIP saidI think a lot of this is due to the fact that straight men in North America are notoriously sensitive about their masculinity. If you show them a lot of gay men who are just as butch, or even more so then they are, it provokes their insecurities and makes them angry.
    No it doesn't. It scares them because they think shows like that will out them.
    Homophobia is, by definition, the fear of one's own homosexuality.
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    Dec 21, 2011 1:40 PM GMT
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    njmeanwhile saidThe lawyer is Scott Neil who played Jamie in Beautiful Thing.

    I'm convinced the reason there are so few non-stereotypical gay male characters in the US media is because the US public wants on some level to believe all gay men are readily identifiable. There have been a few attempts to break the mold (including a sitcom called Normal, Ohio and one that's on now, Happy Endings) but they are few and far between.


    Not to be too nitpicky, but the actor is Scott Neal and he played Ste in the movie Beautiful Thing. icon_wink.gif

    He sure grew up to be quite a handsome young man, and continues to make a career for himself in television and film...


    Ah right. Jamie was the other kid. Yeah, he sure is cute. He has aged well.

  • Dec 21, 2011 4:55 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]likewatuc said[/cite]What is this from?!!??! I WANNA SEE ALL OF IT!!!! A movie? A British Soap? I DEMAND AN ANSWER NOW! Please? icon_smile.gif[/quote

    it is a soap start from the 2010 when danny miller began to play aaron
    it gets better more intense. The acting is superb.
    In the US we get bar flies i.e Queer as FOLK or some flamer that wants to redecorate your life

  • Dec 21, 2011 5:09 PM GMT
    outdoorsmuscleguy said[quote][cite]likewatuc said[/cite]What is this from?!!??! I WANNA SEE ALL OF IT!!!! A movie? A British Soap? I DEMAND AN ANSWER NOW! Please? icon_smile.gif[/quote

    it is a soap start from the 2010 when danny miller began to play aaron
    it gets better more intense. The acting is superb.
    In the US we get bar flies i.e Queer as FOLK or some flamer that wants to redecorate your life


    In the US It has been my experience that the GAY community is so hung up with status that they do not openly accept gay guys working on blue collar jobs;
    i.e mechanic, carpenter, etc. like the character Aaron and Jackson in Emmerdale

    I know Emmerdale is just a British Soap but i wonder if the gay community is different there

    thoughts?

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    Dec 21, 2011 5:11 PM GMT
    outdoorsmuscleguy said
    outdoorsmuscleguy said[quote][cite]likewatuc said[/cite]What is this from?!!??! I WANNA SEE ALL OF IT!!!! A movie? A British Soap? I DEMAND AN ANSWER NOW! Please? icon_smile.gif[/quote

    it is a soap start from the 2010 when danny miller began to play aaron
    it gets better more intense. The acting is superb.
    In the US we get bar flies i.e Queer as FOLK or some flamer that wants to redecorate your life


    In the US It has been my experience that the GAY community is so hung up with status that they do not openly accept gay guys working on blue collar jobs;
    i.e mechanic, carpenter, etc. like the character Aaron and Jackson in Emmerdale

    I know Emmerdale is just a British Soap but i wonder if the gay community is different there

    thoughts?



    I have seen this too "You want to get dirty and sweaty? Are you sure you're not a lesbian?" but we (gays) don't control what's on TV. Even LOGO is a package of what straights (MTV) think Gay should look like.
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    Dec 21, 2011 5:47 PM GMT
    JackNWNJ saidBecause white Liberals want gays to be obedient, compliant, and docile.


    And white conservatives just want us to be quiet.
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    Dec 21, 2011 5:52 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Homophobia is, by definition, the fear of one's own homosexuality.



    Not true.

    Homophobia is a term used to refer to a range of negative attitudes and feelings towards lesbian, gay and in some cases bisexual, transgender people and behavior, although these are usually covered under other terms such as biphobia and transphobia. Definitions refer to irrational fear, with the implication of antipathy, contempt, prejudice, and aversion

  • Dec 21, 2011 6:04 PM GMT
    njmeanwhile said
    outdoorsmuscleguy said
    outdoorsmuscleguy said[quote][cite]likewatuc said[/cite]What is this from?!!??! I WANNA SEE ALL OF IT!!!! A movie? A British Soap? I DEMAND AN ANSWER NOW! Please? icon_smile.gif[/quote

    it is a soap start from the 2010 when danny miller began to play aaron
    it gets better more intense. The acting is superb.
    In the US we get bar flies i.e Queer as FOLK or some flamer that wants to redecorate your life


    In the US It has been my experience that the GAY community is so hung up with status that they do not openly accept gay guys working on blue collar jobs;
    i.e mechanic, carpenter, etc. like the character Aaron and Jackson in Emmerdale

    I know Emmerdale is just a British Soap but i wonder if the gay community is different there

    thoughts?



    I have seen this too "You want to get dirty and sweaty? Are you sure you're not a lesbian?" but we (gays) don't control what's on TV. Even LOGO is a package of what straights (MTV) think Gay should look like.




    "See" that is the line that I get from most of my gay friends
    If I do any type of labor work... I get the stereotypical crap that must be lesbian ...

    Yeah I work on my own car
    Pulled the engine and transmission last week..
    I also gutted and rebuilt my house...

    I have a masters degree... not a white or blue collar thing does not matter to me

    I just like doing that sort of stuff

    If we only show gay guys in suits ...i.e lawyers doctors or decorators ...
    if you are young kid that thinks he might be gay but does not fit the mold what do you do? suicide?


    Oh and I am as liberal as you can be .....can't stand right wing idiots











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    Dec 21, 2011 6:08 PM GMT
    Television, contrary to many people's expectation, is a rather retrograde mirror of society and less—far less—a progressive shaper of public opinion. Moreover, American television is considerably more conservative [in the sense of less adventurous] than television in the UK.

    It will happen in the US eventually. Gay people have never been more visible and more normalized. I would think many people know at least someone who is gay—and so eventually gay people will show up in TV shows.