HIV Vaccine that much closer??

  • zackmorrisfan...

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    Dec 21, 2011 3:49 AM GMT
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/new-health/health-news/canadian-developed-hiv-vaccine-approved-for-human-testing/article2277741/
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    Dec 21, 2011 12:59 PM GMT
    I know you are entitled to your opinion and I respect your right to that opinion. But that's hardly a reason against a vaccine. That's easy to say if you're hiv-. Many people who are hiv+ are not promiscuous. Punishing the entire human race for being human is not the answer to controlling promiscuity.
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    Dec 21, 2011 1:07 PM GMT
    doubleyou saidI'd rather it not be. It will give more of a justification for promiscuity, which is already a problem among gay men.


    This is the dumbest thing I've heard all year. And there are just 10 days left for someone to take your award from you.

    If HIV could be prevented... it would be one of the most amazing medical advances ever... and would save millions of people from health complications, emotional upset and rejection from others.

    There are plenty of reasons not to be promiscuous, and HIV is not the only reason. There are people out there who fuck around like nobodys business but they are safe about it and dont contract the virus. Its not a one to one correlation.
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    Dec 21, 2011 1:07 PM GMT
    doubleyou saidI'd rather it not be. It will give more of a justification for promiscuity, which is already a problem among gay men.




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    Dec 21, 2011 1:09 PM GMT
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    doubleyou saidI'd rather it not be. It will give more of a justification for promiscuity, which is already a problem among gay men.




    WHAT? ARE YOU HUMAN? icon_eek.gif


    No, he's a blithering idiot. He forgets that more straight people in the world have it than Gay Men.... its NOT just a gay men's disease....
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    Dec 21, 2011 1:15 PM GMT
    doubleyou saidI'd rather it not be. It will give more of a justification for promiscuity, which is already a problem among gay men.


    And let's not forget people in Africa. So many are dying over there.

    Let's hope the trials go better than the others. This still might not work - but I'm hopeful and crossing my fingers.
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    Dec 21, 2011 1:15 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]doubleyou said[/cite]I'd rather it not be. It will give more of a justification for promiscuity, which is already a problem among gay men. [/quote


    what an idiot, milions die every year including children and str8 people
    and besides,promiscuity is fun icon_lol.gif
  • dancedancekj

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    Dec 21, 2011 1:22 PM GMT
    Psssssht. With HPV, HBV and HCV in addition to the rest of the regular STD's, you still have plenty of reason to wrap it up. So psyched to see it starting up.

    May I also mention that it was a Korean based pharma company AND a Korean scientist who headed this off? So proud icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 21, 2011 1:33 PM GMT
    dancedancekj saidPsssssht. With HPV, HBV and HCV in addition to the rest of the regular STD's, you still have plenty of reason to wrap it up. So psyched to see it starting up.

    May I also mention that it was a Korean based pharma company AND a Korean scientist who headed this off? So proud icon_biggrin.gif


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    Dec 21, 2011 7:48 PM GMT
    doubleyou said
    ZbmwM5 said
    rani89 said
    doubleyou saidI'd rather it not be. It will give more of a justification for promiscuity, which is already a problem among gay men.




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    No, he's a blithering idiot. He forgets that more straight people in the world have it than Gay Men.... its NOT just a gay men's disease....


    And? Gay men, statistically, are the highest carriers and contractors of the disease in countries where men who have sex with men is permitted and legal. They are 5x more likely to contract HIV than straights. You do understand what statistics mean, don't you? That was the basis of my comment.



    So you're saying that HIV is an acceptable way of controlling promiscuity. You're a jackass.
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    Dec 21, 2011 7:49 PM GMT
    doubleyou saidI'd rather it not be. It will give more of a justification for promiscuity, which is already a problem among gay men.


    Urrrh when you've had to tell 6 families in a day that their loved ones have died.... Mothers, bread winners and babies..... And you still feel that way...then try making comments like that.... Not before
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    Dec 21, 2011 7:52 PM GMT
    I recall writing a paper for my biology class the summer after high school about how a certain gene was going to lead to a tried and true cure to HIV within the next ten years. Good for this group of scientists to lead us to another big step in the right direction.
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    Dec 21, 2011 7:54 PM GMT
    doubleyou said
    DJBoston said
    doubleyou said
    ZbmwM5 said
    rani89 said
    doubleyou saidI'd rather it not be. It will give more of a justification for promiscuity, which is already a problem among gay men.




    WHAT? ARE YOU HUMAN? icon_eek.gif


    No, he's a blithering idiot. He forgets that more straight people in the world have it than Gay Men.... its NOT just a gay men's disease....


    And? Gay men, statistically, are the highest carriers and contractors of the disease in countries where men who have sex with men is permitted and legal. They are 5x more likely to contract HIV than straights. You do understand what statistics mean, don't you? That was the basis of my comment.



    So you're saying that HIV is an acceptable way of controlling promiscuity. You're a jackass.


    It's an acceptable consequence. I didn't say anything about control, did I? Nope.



    You said that didn't want a vaccine for HIV because HIV is an acceptable consequence (read: punishment) for promiscuity. That means you want to control promiscuity with the threat of HIV. You're also a stupid jackass.
  • Montague

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    Dec 21, 2011 7:56 PM GMT
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    Dec 21, 2011 8:01 PM GMT
    doubleyou said

    Yes... I agree!





    You're a JACKASS!
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    Dec 21, 2011 8:04 PM GMT
    doubleyou saidAnd? Gay men, statistically, are the highest carriers and contractors of the disease in countries where men who have sex with men is permitted and legal. They are 5x more likely to contract HIV than straights. You do understand what statistics mean, don't you? That was the basis of my comment.


    Bullshit. Black women are the most at-risk community, both in the United States and abroad because one male super-carrier will have unprotected sex with dozens of females.
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    Dec 21, 2011 8:07 PM GMT
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    But I see no problem in having them punished for it by contracting terminal diseases.
    Kinda like vaginal cancer eh?

    Gawd are you an asinine idiot.
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    Dec 21, 2011 8:10 PM GMT
    doubleyou saidI'd rather it not be. It will give more of a justification for promiscuity, which is already a problem among gay men.


    Dumb ass, the ONLY thing WRONG with promiscuity is the risk of catching sexually transmitted diseases. . .if the worst one is "taken off the market" then how is it a bad thing?

    You should be punished for your stupidity.
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    Dec 21, 2011 8:11 PM GMT
    doubleyou saidSo, no, I don't want to control gay men and their promiscuous behavior. But I see no problem in having them punished for (being slutty) by contracting terminal diseases.


    And you don't see that as medieval and retrograde? Death as an object lesson for being loose?

    You're a ghoul.
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    Dec 21, 2011 8:13 PM GMT
    doubleyou saidI'd rather it not be. It will give more of a justification for promiscuity, which is already a problem among gay men.



    Let's get this thing straight, okay? One, you don't have to be a slut to get the virus and two, you'd rather let thousands of people die to prevent promiscuity? That makes no sense at all. Anyone can have the virus, which means anyone can get it. You can have sex with one only man and still get it. Promiscuity isn't just an issue with gay men either, so ya might wanna be careful with what you say.
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    Dec 21, 2011 8:14 PM GMT
    doubleyou said
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    doubleyou saidAnd? Gay men, statistically, are the highest carriers and contractors of the disease in countries where men who have sex with men is permitted and legal. They are 5x more likely to contract HIV than straights. You do understand what statistics mean, don't you? That was the basis of my comment.


    Bullshit. Black women are the most at-risk community, both in the United States and abroad because one male super-carrier will have unprotected sex with dozens of females.


    You can thank me later:

    "Overall, CDC’s new incidence estimates continue to show that

    * Gay and bisexual men remain the population most heavily affected by HIV in the United States. CDC estimates MSM represent approximately 2% of the US population, but accounted for more than 50% of all new HIV infections annually from 2006 to 2009 –56% in 2006 (27,000), 58% in 2007 (32,300), 56% in 2008 (26,900) and 61% (29,300) in 2009.
    In 2009, 61% of new HIV infections occurred in men who have sex with men, or MSM. Twenty seven percent of new infections were in heterosexuals, 9% were in injection drug users, and 3% were in MSM who were also injection drug users.
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    http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/incidence.htm
    Herpes is in your future for sure.. then we'll all have the last laugh..on you of course..

    Another fundie troll found its way into this site!icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 21, 2011 8:16 PM GMT
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    doubleyou saidI'd rather it not be. It will give more of a justification for promiscuity, which is already a problem among gay men.


    Dumb ass, the ONLY thing WRONG with promiscuity is the risk of catching sexually transmitted diseases. . .if the worst one is "taken off the market" then how is it a bad thing?

    You should be punished for your stupidity.


    So you're saying promiscuity is a value that should be encouraged? Really?

    And you're the one calling me names?

    Your post says more about you than I could ever want to know. What nastiness.



    Did I ever say it should be encouraged? Absolutely not. I'm not promiscuous, I do not condone it - but people that are deserve to die? I don't think so.

    But to actually say that you would want a vaccine for a virus that destroys peoples' lives to not be developed, just to prevent promiscuity - says a whole hell of a lot about you than anyone could ever want to know. You think I am nasty? You've have just hung yourself on this forum.

    You're a vile human being, obviously.
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    Dec 21, 2011 8:16 PM GMT
    doubleyou said
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    doubleyou said

    But I see no problem in having them punished for it by contracting terminal diseases.
    Kinda like vaginal cancer eh?

    Gawd are you an asinine idiot.


    No. They aren't even related.
    Oh really?

    HPV and Cervical Cancer

    Certain HPV types are classified as "high-risk" because they lead to abnormal cell changes and can cause genital cancers: cervical cancer as well as cancer of the vulva, anus, and penis. In fact, researchers say that virtually all cervical cancers -- more than 99% are caused by HPV .Most sexually active women and men will contract HPV at some point in their lifetime. Most will never even know it
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    Dec 21, 2011 8:18 PM GMT
    doubleyou said
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    doubleyou saidI'd rather it not be. It will give more of a justification for promiscuity, which is already a problem among gay men.


    Dumb ass, the ONLY thing WRONG with promiscuity is the risk of catching sexually transmitted diseases. . .if the worst one is "taken off the market" then how is it a bad thing?

    You should be punished for your stupidity.


    So you're saying promiscuity is a value that should be encouraged? Really?

    And you're the one calling me names?

    Your post says more about you than I could ever want to know. What nastiness.




    The only thing that's nasty is your advocating against a vaccine for a disease simply because YOU think that gay men are too promiscuous. You're sick in the head.
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    Dec 21, 2011 8:18 PM GMT
    doubleyou said
    TropicalMark said
    doubleyou said
    Larkin said
    doubleyou saidAnd? Gay men, statistically, are the highest carriers and contractors of the disease in countries where men who have sex with men is permitted and legal. They are 5x more likely to contract HIV than straights. You do understand what statistics mean, don't you? That was the basis of my comment.


    Bullshit. Black women are the most at-risk community, both in the United States and abroad because one male super-carrier will have unprotected sex with dozens of females.


    You can thank me later:

    "Overall, CDC’s new incidence estimates continue to show that

    * Gay and bisexual men remain the population most heavily affected by HIV in the United States. CDC estimates MSM represent approximately 2% of the US population, but accounted for more than 50% of all new HIV infections annually from 2006 to 2009 –56% in 2006 (27,000), 58% in 2007 (32,300), 56% in 2008 (26,900) and 61% (29,300) in 2009.
    In 2009, 61% of new HIV infections occurred in men who have sex with men, or MSM. Twenty seven percent of new infections were in heterosexuals, 9% were in injection drug users, and 3% were in MSM who were also injection drug users.
    "

    http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/incidence.htm
    Herpes is in your future for sure.. then we'll all have the last laugh..on you of course..

    Another fundie troll found its way into this site!icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif


    That's your response? I guess that means you can't offer a reply with some substance. Figures. But, I didn't have high expectations for you to begin with.
    LMAO.. the expectation started with your utterly idiotic statement on your first post. Dont expect anything other than that in response.