Jon Huntsman Interview on Dave Letterman Last Night

  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Dec 22, 2011 8:23 PM GMT
    I hope everyone will watch this. What an intelligent and likable man he is. Don't miss the part where he jams with Paul Shafer and the band. His piano playing is quite incredible...

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    Dec 22, 2011 10:07 PM GMT
    We could have Clinton on sax, Huck on guitar, and huntsman on piano. What a team.
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    Dec 22, 2011 10:36 PM GMT
    I think Huntsman is quite a notch above both Clinton & Huckabee in terms of musical talent
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    Dec 22, 2011 10:42 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI think Huntsman is quite a notch above both Clinton & Huckabee in terms of musical talent


    Ok, how 'bout Condi and Huntsman with dueling pianos?
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    Dec 22, 2011 11:51 PM GMT
    and quite a few notches above his GOP opponents in terms of global perspective, it seems.

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    Dec 24, 2011 6:42 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI hope everyone will watch this. What an intelligent and likable man he is. Don't miss the part where he jams with Paul Shafer and the band. His piano playing is quite incredible...


    As an extremely politically active conservative Utahan, I'm not sure I understand your reasons for continued support and pushing Jon Huntsman as a candidate. The only explanations I can come up with is that you either aren't familiar with him and his political views or you are a single issue voter for whom gay marriage is the single most important issue, or you are far more liberal than you are conservative because Jon Huntsman is neither a Fiscal Conservative or a Social Conservative.

    Everyone who is politically active or politically connected in Utah is well aware that the record that Huntsman refers to is non existent. It's well known in Utah that he ran as a conservative in his first run for for Governor of Utah, but tried to govern as a far left Liberal, held in check only by a conservative Lt. Governor and legislature. In political circles in the state it is common knowledge that Jon Huntsman was a show pony trotted out to take a victory lap after the heavy lifting was done by Lt. Governor Gary Herbert and the legislature.
    Everyone in Utah is well aware that Jon Huntsman is an oppertunist who straddles the fence until he sees an opertunity. He was for it before he was against it, he was against it before he was for it. He stands for everything and nothing.

    Jon Huntsman was a supporter of the ARA as recently as 2009 and has since tried to distance himself from that support by misleading those who would listen to him. His only problem with the stimulus seems to be that it didn't spend enough money.
    In 2009 Huntsman told George Stephanopoulos when asked about his support of ARA: "My take was, lets stimulate business...Lets look at tax cuts, lets look at payroll tax deductions". In reality,that isn't where he stood at all. Previously to running for President as a Republican he said: "Too little focus on meaningful and relevant infrastructure that would have enhanced our entire nation and our ability to compete. Whether delivering products or moving people from point A to point B- in other words, overall enhancement of needed infrastructure in our country which is desperately needed.
    "So you had maybe 25% infrastructure, 75% all other categories- it should have been reversed to my mind, so that coming out of the stimulus phase, we actually could have maybe achieved a better, stronger, more 21st-century infrastructure in our country....
    "That's my one gripe....Stimulus, to be sure was needed. We needed to kick-start the economy and infuse it with some liquidity. It was sort of the targeted end-points that I would question."
    Huntsman's take on stimulus isn't just Progressive, but it's to the left of many Democrats. This was his practice as Governor of Utah as well, While taxes were flattened and cut while he was Governor spending also went wild at the same time and the tax cut he is always talking about was in the works before he came along.
    The same Jon Huntsman told those of us who disagreed with the stimulus package on principled grounds that our disagreements were "gratuitous political griping".
    If you don't support the spending in the stimulus package how can you support Huntsman who wanted more stimulus spending?

    Huntsman always mentions the formation of Health Insurance Exchanges while he was Governor of Utah, but he doesn't mention that like Mitt Romeny he was also in favor of the Individual Mandate and pushed for it. It was the work of the Lt. Governor and the Legislature that kept Utah from following down the same path as Romeny and Obama. Huntsman didn't give up on the mandate until it became clear after 2007 that he wouldn't be able to get it passed. Another little known fact outside of Utah is that Gov. Huntsman supported the Affordable Care Act while it was making it's way through congress, now he says he will repeal it. Really?
    If you don't support an Individual Mandate or "Socialized Medicine" under Romeny or President Obama, how can you support Jon Huntsman?

    Against the wishes of the people of the state, Gov. Huntsman made an agreement for Utah to enter into the Western Regional Action Partnership.
    The agreement was designed to set standards for reducing greenhouse gas emissions in the Western States. While Huntsman may support the Man made Global Warming lobby, most Utahans do not and it appears that more and more scientists do not either. John Huntsman has long been a supporter of Cap and Trade as well as the discredited idea or the creation of green jobs.
    If you don't support Cap and Trade on a national basis and the job killing regulations that go along with it and the regulations being issued by the EPA in an attempt to go around congress, how can you support Huntsman who would have imposed such regulations in the state of Utah without the consent of the people of Utah?

    Jon Huntsman talks up his support for school choice and vouchers and the bill he helped to pass into law in Utah, but he fails to mention that the law was repealed because he failed to fight for it. In his run up for election as Utah's Governor, Huntsman led many political donors to believe that school choice was an important issue to him only to abandon us after he was elected. In 2007, school voucher legislation was signed into law by Huntsman. Immediately teacher unions and public school advocates began to pour into the state from outside fighting against the legislation. Public opinion was mixed over the issue. The Governor failed to defend legislation which in 2004 he had said was his "main issue". In 2007 voters rejected school vouchers in a referendum. During the months of public debate prior to the referendum Huntsman made no public statements in support of vouchers.
    Huntsman and others received invitations to debate teachers' union officials and Representatives across the state. Others accepted. Not only did Huntsman not appear at any of the debates, he refused to make any kind of public comment on the issue. When asked why he failed to defend the school voucher issue which was supposed to be his "main issue", he said (in a txt to
    Patrick Byrne): "Campaigning for vouchers is outside of my comfort zone".
    If you can't support Romeny or Gingrinch for flip-flopping, how can you support Huntsman who flip-flopped on his "main issue" ?

    Those are just a few of the issues where huntsman's policies are less than conservative.

    It's also interesting that in the biggest battle of last years election cycle that Huntsman and his family supported Harry Reid to the tune of nearly $25,000.

    I also find it interesting that when he ran for office in predominantly Mormon Utah, he made an issue of being a practicing member of the faith. Now that he is running for president and senses it may be a distraction he is running as being "more spiritual than religious" and a non practicing Mormon who gets "satisfaction from many different types of religions and philosophies."

    I think it's telling that his campaign manager ( in his bid for Governor) and Chief of Staff for his first two years as Governor, Rep. Jason Chaffetz, didn't endorse him. His legal council while he was Governor, Senator Mike Lee, doesn't endorse him. Susie Wiles, stepped down as Huntsman's Presidential Campaign Manager to endorse Romeny. The people of Utah overwhelmingly do not support Huntsman's campaign. Overall, the only people who Huntsman has been able to get on his side have been a handful of establishment Republicans and an overwhelming number of registered Democrats.

    I'm not sure that anyone with a single conservative bone in their body could vote for Jon Huntsman. It would certainly be difficult because you would have to hold your nose with one hand and cover your eyes with the other!
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    Dec 24, 2011 7:32 PM GMT
    He can't be too liberal if he won reelection by 77.63% of the vote versus 19.72% for the democrat.

    According to Haley Barbour, the current governor of Mississippi:

    "Jon Huntsman and I served together, and while we don't agree on some issues, there's no question that he's a conservative. He's way to the right of Barack Obama for goodness sake. But yeah, I consider Jon a conservative. As I said, we have some issues that I think are important that we have different views on. But he was in the Reagan administration, elected governor of a very conservative state—elected and re-elected by the way. So if you're asking me if Jon Huntsman is qualified to the Republican nominee for President of the United States, the answer is, of course he is."

    Fiscal policy

    Huntsman speaking at the World Economic Forum in Dalian, China, in 2009.In a 2008 evaluation of state governors' fiscal policies, the libertarian Cato Institute praised Huntsman's conservative tax policies, ranking him in a tie for fifth place on overall fiscal policy. He was particularly lauded for his efforts to cut taxes. The report specifically highlighted his reductions of the sales tax and simplification of the tax code. However, the report concluded that: "Unfortunately, Huntsman has completely dropped the ball on spending, with per capita spending increasing at about 10 percent annually during his tenure." He defines his taxation policy as "business friendly".

    As part of his presidential campaign, Huntsman claimed that "our tax code has devolved into a maze of special-interest carve-outs, loopholes and temporary provisions that cost taxpayers more than $400 billion a year to comply with." The candidate called for "[getting] rid of all tax expenditures, all loopholes, all deductions, all subsidies. Use that to lower rates across the board. And do it on a revenue-neutral basis."

    In addition, Huntsman has proposed reducing the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%, eliminating corporate taxes on income earned overseas, and implementing a tax holiday for repatriation of corporate profits. He favors eliminating taxes on capital gains and dividends.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Huntsman,_Jr.
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    Dec 24, 2011 11:59 PM GMT
    I'll repeat again, we don't want another War Monger who supports the NEO CONS and the ISRAELI LOBBY who are pushing war with Iran which has been on their war wish list right along with Afghanistan and Iraq for more than a decade.

    Take a look at Huntsmans interview with Erin Burnett on CNN from this last week. He's all about going to war with Iran and says its 'inevitable' that we will go to war with IRAN.


    Wasn't the debacle of Iraq at these peoples hands enough for you Republican shills that you actually want to repeat the same bullshit ? Are you F'n blind ? LOL
  • DesireIron

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    Dec 25, 2011 12:45 AM GMT
    I have been very impressed with his position to prosecute corporate executives involved in the Great Recession. He is the only one who has said this to my knowledge.

    I dont get the feeling that he is at all a far right crazy like the Republican Party has become.

    And I am a Democrat.
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    Dec 25, 2011 7:12 AM GMT
    shybuffguy saidI'm not sure I understand your reasons for continued support and pushing Jon Huntsman as a candidate. The only explanations I can come up with is that you either aren't familiar with him and his political views or you are a single issue voter for whom gay marriage is the single most important issue, or you are far more liberal than you are conservative because Jon Huntsman is neither a Fiscal Conservative or a Social Conservative.



    I'm for Jon Huntsman because I believe he can truly bring both sides together and find a compromise when it is in dire need. I also like his whole world view -- it makes sense. He seems to me a President that is right for the 21st Century. I guess the almost 80% of voters who voted him a 2nd term as Governor in Utah would beg to differ with your assessment of him. I think the proof is in the pudding as they say. As for his stance on Gay Marriage, I could really care less when I weigh all the other things I like about him, but the fact that he seems pro-gay, even if that means he falls just short of being for gay marriage is fine by me. He is most of the total package I look for in a candidate. That works for me.
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    shybuffguy saidI'm not sure I understand your reasons for continued support and pushing Jon Huntsman as a candidate. The only explanations I can come up with is that you either aren't familiar with him and his political views or you are a single issue voter for whom gay marriage is the single most important issue, or you are far more liberal than you are conservative because Jon Huntsman is neither a Fiscal Conservative or a Social Conservative.



    I'm for Jon Huntsman because I believe he can truly bring both sides together and find a compromise when it is in dire need. I also like his whole world view -- it makes sense. He seems to me a President that is right for the 21st Century. I guess the almost 80% of voters who voted him a 2nd term as Governor in Utah would beg to differ with your assessment of him. I think the proof is in the pudding as they say. As for his stance on Gay Marriage, I could really care less when I weigh all the other things I like about him, but the fact that he seems pro-gay, even if that means he falls just short of being for gay marriage is fine by me. He is most of the total package I look for in a candidate. That works for me.


    Absolutely agree. If he can ever get a little air, I can easily support this one as I've said for months.
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    shybuffguy saidI'm not sure I understand your reasons for continued support and pushing Jon Huntsman as a candidate. The only explanations I can come up with is that you either aren't familiar with him and his political views or you are a single issue voter for whom gay marriage is the single most important issue, or you are far more liberal than you are conservative because Jon Huntsman is neither a Fiscal Conservative or a Social Conservative.



    I'm for Jon Huntsman because I believe he can truly bring both sides together and find a compromise when it is in dire need. I also like his whole world view -- it makes sense. He seems to me a President that is right for the 21st Century. I guess the almost 80% of voters who voted him a 2nd term as Governor in Utah would beg to differ with your assessment of him. I think the proof is in the pudding as they say. As for his stance on Gay Marriage, I could really care less when I weigh all the other things I like about him, but the fact that he seems pro-gay, even if that means he falls just short of being for gay marriage is fine by me. He is most of the total package I look for in a candidate. That works for me.


    Absolutely agree. If he can ever get a little air, I can easily support this one as I've said for months.




    I'm amazed at you guys continuing to ignore that by his own statements Huntsman is just another backer of more war for the NEO CONS list. How the hell can you come away from what's happened to the US over the last two wars and not see this as of mojor importance when considering a Candidate? I know as gays you may not have children who might face a war brought to us by this group, but come on, your status quo of pushing war mongers is a problem of major concern.

    Your attitudes about it is kinda like Grandma Bush who when asked about all the Body Bags coming back from Iraq said "Why would I want to worry my pretty mind about that"? What's with you guys supporting these men using rhetoric that would take us to war yet again so they can be in with the "good ol' boys" to get their money for their election.