Samsung Galaxy S phones won't have latest Android update

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    Dec 24, 2011 2:06 AM GMT
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45779746/ns/technology_and_science-wireless/#.TvUy85jyCy4
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    Dec 24, 2011 3:09 AM GMT
    HTC gave the same excuse for not releasing an Android 2.3 upgrade for the Desire. The upgrade to 2.2 helped a lot, but the biggest problem with the Desire is insufficient memory on the phone for apps, and I'm just not interested in figuring out how to root my phone, which would allow me to delete all the dumb-ass, undeletable apps that come installed.
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    Dec 24, 2011 3:19 AM GMT
    Not a surprise. There comes a point where the newer OS can't run on older hardware without affecting user experience. Same goes for iphone, and why they (finally) updated it with a dual core processor.
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    Dec 24, 2011 5:01 AM GMT
    What are you talking about? I bought a Galaxy Nexus from Verizon because it's the first phone with both Android 4.0 and 4 G.
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    Dec 24, 2011 5:18 AM GMT
    xrichx saidNot a surprise. There comes a point where the newer OS can't run on older hardware without affecting user experience. Same goes for iphone, and why they (finally) updated it with a dual core processor.


    Apple didn't upgrade the iPhone to dual core so it could run the 'newer' OS (iOS 5).. they upgraded the iPhone to dual core because it was time to upgrade the iPhone to dual core. iOS 5 runs fine on the iPhone 3GS (and of course the 4/4S). It doesn't run on the 3G.
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    Dec 24, 2011 5:25 AM GMT
    swimguychicago saidWhat are you talking about? I bought a Galaxy Nexus from Verizon because it's the first phone with both Android 4.0 and 4 G.


    The Nexus is not the S series. The Nexus is Google's 'flagship' hardware built to define the user standard for 'ice cream sandwich'. Google does this at the end of each year to push manufacturers in the coming year to match the user experience they've defined with their new phone.

    As one reviewer put it, the Nexus' battery life on 4G is abysmal. This won't change until new low(er) power 4G chipsets arrive.
  • TennisJock10

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    Dec 24, 2011 5:28 AM GMT
    Fantastic...it only took forever for my Galaxy S to get the 2.3 update and now I won't get 4.0 unless I buy another freaking phone???

    IDFTS...
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    Dec 24, 2011 6:15 AM GMT
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    swimguychicago saidWhat are you talking about? I bought a Galaxy Nexus from Verizon because it's the first phone with both Android 4.0 and 4 G.


    The Nexus is not the S series. The Nexus is Google's 'flagship' hardware built to define the user standard for 'ice cream sandwich'. Google does this at the end of each year to push manufacturers in the coming year to match the user experience they've defined with their new phone.

    As one reviewer put it, the Nexus' battery life on 4G is abysmal. This won't change until new low(er) power 4G chipsets arrive.
    Well, it does have the OMAP4430. But, Sammy tends to favor the locals for basebands.
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    xrichx saidNot a surprise. There comes a point where the newer OS can't run on older hardware without affecting user experience. Same goes for iphone, and why they (finally) updated it with a dual core processor.

    Apple didn't upgrade the iPhone to dual core so it could run the 'newer' OS (iOS 5).. they upgraded the iPhone to dual core because it was time to upgrade the iPhone to dual core. iOS 5 runs fine on the iPhone 3GS (and of course the 4/4S). It doesn't run on the 3G.
    iOS 5 runs fine on the iPhone 3GS? Nope.
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    Dec 24, 2011 8:01 AM GMT
    No wonder nobody lines up to buy Samsung products(reference to their commercials bashing Apple). A phone that's not even one year old will see no major updates whatsoever. Apple latest OS runs on the 4S, the 4, the 3GS and even when the 3G does not run iOS5 it still gets updates today taking care of any existing bugs. It's stupid that you have to fork over $600 every single year so u can get an OS upgrade on ur smartphone. Specially Samsung smartphones that devalue much faster than iPhones. I've been reading the comments on Engadget, Gizmodo and Slashgear, everyone is literally insulted and pissed off with this.
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    Dec 24, 2011 8:52 AM GMT
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    rightasrain said
    xrichx saidNot a surprise. There comes a point where the newer OS can't run on older hardware without affecting user experience. Same goes for iphone, and why they (finally) updated it with a dual core processor.

    Apple didn't upgrade the iPhone to dual core so it could run the 'newer' OS (iOS 5).. they upgraded the iPhone to dual core because it was time to upgrade the iPhone to dual core. iOS 5 runs fine on the iPhone 3GS (and of course the 4/4S). It doesn't run on the 3G.
    iOS 5 runs fine on the iPhone 3GS? Nope.

    It pains me to defend anyone keeping a phone with an Infineon baseband.

    But, aren't you overstating it just a little bit?

    http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/10/25/ios-5-on-iphone-3gs-final-impressions-and-performance/

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    Dec 24, 2011 9:52 AM GMT
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    xrichx said
    rightasrain said
    xrichx saidNot a surprise. There comes a point where the newer OS can't run on older hardware without affecting user experience. Same goes for iphone, and why they (finally) updated it with a dual core processor.

    Apple didn't upgrade the iPhone to dual core so it could run the 'newer' OS (iOS 5).. they upgraded the iPhone to dual core because it was time to upgrade the iPhone to dual core. iOS 5 runs fine on the iPhone 3GS (and of course the 4/4S). It doesn't run on the 3G.
    iOS 5 runs fine on the iPhone 3GS? Nope.

    It pains me to defend anyone keeping a phone with an Infineon baseband.
    But, aren't you overstating it just a little bit?
    http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/10/25/ios-5-on-iphone-3gs-final-impressions-and-performance/
    "Runs fine" is overstating it. Read the comments in the article you cited. Not everyone had great results from the upgrade. The same from my co-workers. They ended upgrading to the 4S because the lag was so bad on their 3GS.

    Besides, I don't see what the big deal is. iphone or Android.. the average user will upgrade to a newer phone anyways when their contract is up. Maybe it's just me, but I don't see any 3G or 3GS users these days. They've upgraded to the 4 or 4S already. $200 for the 4S and $100 for the 4, makes upgrading a no-brainer.

    And most Android phone nerds don't really give a shit. They'll buy the latest and greatest phone regardless of price or OS upgrade support. If there are no more updates, they'll either root the phone or get a newer model. Life goes on.
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    Dec 26, 2011 9:44 AM GMT
    iOS 5 runs fine on the iPhone 3GS (and of course the 4/4S). It doesn't run on the 3G.

    My iPhone 3Gs runs laggy since updating to iOS 5
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    Dec 26, 2011 10:14 AM GMT
    This is why I only buy HTC! I have never had a problem with HTC phones.
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    Anto saidiOS 5 runs fine on the iPhone 3GS (and of course the 4/4S). It doesn't run on the 3G.

    My iPhone 3Gs runs laggy since updating to iOS 5


    It's an old processor but it works. Turn off iCloud... or if you need to leave it on, at least turn off the Use Cellular function. You may see better performance.
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    Jan 03, 2012 1:48 AM GMT
    Lucky for me I have the Samsung Galaxy II from T-Mobile!
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    Jan 03, 2012 1:49 AM GMT
    Ryan_Andrew saidThis is why I only buy HTC! I have never had a problem with HTC phones.


    Ditto, since switching over to HTC Inspire I have no complaints at all!
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    Jan 03, 2012 8:20 AM GMT
    xrichx saidNot a surprise. There comes a point where the newer OS can't run on older hardware without affecting user experience. Same goes for iphone, and why they (finally) updated it with a dual core processor.



    iOS 5 runs on the 3GS which is 2 generations behind. If there's a company that actually does a good job at keeping their phones updated with the latest firmware its Apple. With Apple you know that your phone can keep up for at least 3 years, which is reasonable due to the fact that contracts can go anywhere from 1 to 3 years. it is ridiculous that Samsung can't even upgrade their phones with barely one year in the market place.
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    Jan 03, 2012 8:22 AM GMT
    HighOctane saidLucky for me I have the Samsung Galaxy II from T-Mobile!


    If Google is not directly in charge of the upgrade(Galaxy Nexus), it'll take u less than a year to regret ur Samsung purchase.
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    Jan 03, 2012 8:34 AM GMT
    I hate my Samsung Galaxy S..in fact I hate it so much I bought an iPhone for Christmas.
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    Jan 03, 2012 6:15 PM GMT
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    xrichx saidNot a surprise. There comes a point where the newer OS can't run on older hardware without affecting user experience. Same goes for iphone, and why they (finally) updated it with a dual core processor.



    iOS 5 runs on the 3GS which is 2 generations behind. If there's a company that actually does a good job at keeping their phones updated with the latest firmware its Apple. With Apple you know that your phone can keep up for at least 3 years, which is reasonable due to the fact that contracts can go anywhere from 1 to 3 years. it is ridiculous that Samsung can't even upgrade their phones with barely one year in the market place.


    Well, that might have been true when Steve Jobs was alive.

    It's also ridiculous that the iPhone does not run 4G networks, which are lightning-fast. 3G is slow...as...fuck; the other day it took me ten minutes to download an app.

    I love my iPhone when connected to wireless; however, Apple really screwed the pooch by not yet releasing a 4G-compatible model, which will now have to be delayed in order to avoid alienating customers who bought the latest iPhone and will freak out if the next iPhone (which *must* be 4G for Apple to compete) is released anytime soon.

    Samsung should be ashamed of this debacle, but let's not pretend that Apple is up on the latest technology with their slow-ass, behind-the-times 3G network bullcaca.
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    Jan 03, 2012 6:34 PM GMT
    You guys realize that HTC has its own list of which phones will get the upgrade and which phones will not, right?

    The Samsung Galaxy platform has been around for about two years, give or take a few months and it hit the US a lot later than other markets.

    Apple produces phones that need to be replaced on an annual basis to get the latest stuff. To my knowledge (and correct me if I'm wrong), Siri will never run on anything before the 4S. And all the updates in the world won't change the fact that Apple's hardware is a good year behind every other major smartphone manufacturer.

    The Samsung Galaxy platform's life cycle could've been extended for a few months, but in this game, a few months could mean total obsolescence. The Samsung Galaxy II's will be upgraded to the latest Android OS which makes sense, since they're still in their current product life cycle.

    No phone manufacturer is perfect, and I don't think the average android user even realizes the difference between 2.1 and 2.2 and 2.3 other than cosmetic changes.
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    Jan 03, 2012 6:39 PM GMT
    it was fine when it came out but this is no surprise, the galaxy s has been dead in the water for a while. primarily due to the touchwiz issues (samsung forcing it's own os-skin over android) more than the hardware itself.

    it's definitely dumb to take this as any singular iphone-dickwaving opportunity though as you can't directly compare the two scenarios without taking into account other things like the separation between hardware/os manufacturers and liberties you lose letting yourself get locked into apple's "fisher-price toys for adults" world, so put it away for one minute.

    galaxy s ii seems to be doing fine so far in terms of upgrades, samsung seems to have gotten a bit of a better at keeping their bastardized os up to date as android itself gets updated - but it's still reproachable of them to not just come out and say "YOU'RE STUCK WITH YOU GOT" re: the original galaxy s as it's obviously been that way for what, a year now?

    on the other hand: big deal, the phone and it's primary features still work, the complaining over it speaks much more to people's unwarranted need for whatever new shiny that comes along.
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    Jan 03, 2012 6:47 PM GMT
    2.3 for some of us came around last fall for the Samsung Epic, which is Sprint's Galaxy variant. It came late and it actually makes me twitchy because I frankly liked how Froyo did swype and a few other functions.

    But I can't reiterate enough that the original Samsung Galaxy variants are approaching the end of their product life cycles with the Galaxy II variants in the wild. I mean, it's not like that one time Samsung totally dicked everyone by not updating their first android phone from version... 1.8 I think.

    The thing about it is this: Samsung may be slow on the updates, but its variant of the Android OS, from personal experience, is more stable than anything coughed up by HTC or the glitchrific disaster that was the first Motorola Droid (although I think Verizon had a hand in nerfing that).

    It's one thing to go ballistic on a bona fide issue like the big 2011 Blackberry outage a few months back. An android update or lackthereof on a product that's over a year old? Give me a break.
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    charlitos said
    xrichx saidNot a surprise. There comes a point where the newer OS can't run on older hardware without affecting user experience. Same goes for iphone, and why they (finally) updated it with a dual core processor.



    iOS 5 runs on the 3GS which is 2 generations behind. If there's a company that actually does a good job at keeping their phones updated with the latest firmware its Apple. With Apple you know that your phone can keep up for at least 3 years, which is reasonable due to the fact that contracts can go anywhere from 1 to 3 years. it is ridiculous that Samsung can't even upgrade their phones with barely one year in the market place.


    Well, that might have been true when Steve Jobs was alive.

    It's also ridiculous that the iPhone does not run 4G networks, which are lightning-fast. 3G is slow...as...fuck; the other day it took me ten minutes to download an app.

    I love my iPhone when connected to wireless; however, Apple really screwed the pooch by not yet releasing a 4G-compatible model, which will now have to be delayed in order to avoid alienating customers who bought the latest iPhone and will freak out if the next iPhone (which *must* be 4G for Apple to compete) is released anytime soon.

    Samsung should be ashamed of this debacle, but let's not pretend that Apple is up on the latest technology with their slow-ass, behind-the-times 3G network bullcaca.


    CEOs have 4+ year plans for a company, specially a big company like Apple. Just because Steve Jobs died doesnt mean the company will fall apart because judging for the sales numbers today that is very far from the truth.

    Apple never adopts a technology which infrastructure isnt quite ready yet. 4G LTE is an imperative upgrade but not an immediate one.