Concord Monitor - Huntsman

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    Monitor editorial
    Huntsman is the best choice for GOP
    By Monitor staff
    December 22, 2011

    There comes a time for many politicians when they gaze at their reflection and see a president. The reflection is dazzling and often beguiling enough to momentarily blind a segment of the electorate to reality. But most people with presidential ambitions learn, usually the hard way, that they were duped by a funhouse mirror that minimized their limitations and maximized their potential. Most of the contenders for the Republican presidential nomination, Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, Ron Paul, Herman Cain, Gary Johnson and Buddy Roemer, are in that group.

    New Hampshire Republicans and undeclared voters who want to field a candidate with broad appeal and the capability and credibility to have a shot at beating President Obama have three choices: putative frontrunner Mitt Romney, former House speaker Newt Gingrich, and diplomat and two-term Utah governor Jon Huntsman. The choice of Huntsman should be clear.

    With Gingrich, voters would get an unpredictable, unprincipled nominee and, should he be elected, a white-knuckle four years of an imperial presidency. With Romney, they wouldn't know who they would get: the moderate Mitt who was once pro-choice, in favor of a health-care mandate, a supporter of the auto industry bailout and a believer that human activity was contributing to climate change - or the newly conservative Romney, who opposes abortion, claims the reason for climate change is unknown, opposes a health insurance mandate and claims that bailing out Detroit was a mistake.

    Huntsman, a consistent but never doctrinaire conservative, would present the greatest challenge to Obama. If elected, he would provide mature, informed and steady leadership. He has a track record as governor of bringing all sides together to create an economic climate that helped his state prosper. And he has experience garnered while serving four presidents, starting with Ronald Reagan. Combine the foreign policy experience of all the other candidates in the race and Huntsman would top it. He has played the game at its highest level, serving first as ambassador to Singapore, then as a trade representative on behalf of the United States at the United Nations and, at Obama's request, as the United States' ambassador to China.

    Huntsman accepted his posting to China because, he says, as a patriotic American, "when your president asks you to serve, you do it." Such willingness to put the good of the country over party considerations is exactly what's missing in politics today. As ambassador Huntsman walked a fine line between working to improve U.S.-China relations and trade while pushing China toward greater respect for human rights and freedom. He succeeded in doing both.

    We disagree with Huntsman on a host of issues, including abortion, support for civil unions over same-sex marriage, the need to repeal the landmark health care reform act, and his desire to extend the Bush tax cuts. But we found him, despite his calm demeanor, to be a proponent of bold, hard-nosed reforms that voters, no matter what their party, should consider. Huntsman wants to rewrite the nation's absurd tax code and eliminate all deductions, both personal and corporate. That would allow rates to be lowered and, in his words, "clean out the swamp" of lobbyists whose job is to maintain and extend tax breaks for those who can afford to hire them. He would levy a fee on the six big banks that control a dangerously large share of the economy - a fee so high that they would be forced them to sell off their subsidiaries, shrink and no longer be "too big to fail."

    Among candidates too often seen as hostile to science, Huntsman is a believer in its power to explain phenomena like climate change. In a party seen as hostile to the judiciary, he believes justices should have lifetime tenure to insulate them from the political pressure.

    As one with years of experience in business, he understands the need to invest in education to develop a workforce unmatched in its ability to innovate and create. And he is the only Republican candidate willing to talk honestly about the need to cut military spending in a responsible way to meet the challenges of the 21st century.

    Huntsman's depth of experience, maturity, sincerity and ability to work toward a common goal with political opponents make him the Republicans' best choice to face President Obama in 2012.

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    Dec 24, 2011 3:18 PM GMT
    Well, Huntsman may get some votes in Virginia. Looks like a couple of others won't be on the ballot.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505103_162-57348112/gingrich-perry-fail-to-make-va-ballot/
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    Dec 24, 2011 3:21 PM GMT
    I stand corrected. Looks like no one will be on the Virginia ballot

    http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/huntsman-bachmann-santorum-will-not-be-on-virginia-primary-ballot/
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    Dec 24, 2011 3:22 PM GMT
    Romney and Paul are on the VA primary ballot.
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    Dec 24, 2011 3:33 PM GMT
    murano saidRomney and Paul are on the VA primary ballot.


    Ok, then Romney I guess is the choice. IMO, Ron Paul doesn't much count. I don't understand how these other folks screwed up so much not to be on the ballot.
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    Dec 24, 2011 4:23 PM GMT
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    Ahhhhh, he of little faith. Not a single VOTE has been taken yet, and this being one of the most volatile GOP fields in memory, with seemingly a new front-runner every other week, I suspect that this whole thing still has a few surprises in store and a few more twists and turns in the road. Huntsman is poised for that surprise come the New Hampshire primary, and should he come in 1st, or even a strong 2nd in New Hampshire, you know this will be the springboard he has needed to propel him forward in to the next primaries. I think he has not peaked yet, and that many of the others --- Perry, Bachmann, Cain, and Gingrich -- simply peaked to early. This thing is not over or decided yet -- not by a long shot.

    I've paid attention and been through this since the 64 election cycle so I'm well aware that we have time. Believe me, I still have some hope. I think he’s the only candidate who can bring all sides together and govern.
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    Dec 24, 2011 5:19 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    murano saidRomney and Paul are on the VA primary ballot.


    Ok, then Romney I guess is the choice. IMO, Ron Paul doesn't much count. I don't understand how these other folks screwed up so much not to be on the ballot.


    What I think is ridiculous is that Virginia had the deadline so freaking early. Their primary is not until March, and so much can change on the landscape of how the field stacks up in January. Virginia should give everyone more time to get their signatures in.
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    Dec 24, 2011 5:31 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said
    murano saidRomney and Paul are on the VA primary ballot.


    Ok, then Romney I guess is the choice. IMO, Ron Paul doesn't much count. I don't understand how these other folks screwed up so much not to be on the ballot.


    What I think is ridiculous is that Virginia had the deadline so freaking early. Their primary is not until March, and so much can change on the landscape of how the field stacks up in January. Virginia should give everyone more time to get their signatures in.


    I have hunch that they'll get this worked out. Too much lost revenue to not have a primary - motels, media, newspapers, and etc.
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    Dec 24, 2011 5:35 PM GMT
    It will get worked out.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/24/newt-gingrich-virginia-gop-primary_n_1168634.html
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    Dec 24, 2011 5:35 PM GMT
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    I have hunch that they'll get this worked out. Too much lost revenue to not have a primary - motels, media, newspapers, and etc.



    I tend to agree. Virginia has way too much to lose by not allowing late entires into this signature requirement because so much will likely change after Iowa and New Hampshire, not to mention South Carolina and Florida a few weeks later. That still gives the candidates plenty of time to get their signatures in. The deadline should be mid-February
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    Dec 24, 2011 5:38 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said

    I have hunch that they'll get this worked out. Too much lost revenue to not have a primary - motels, media, newspapers, and etc.



    I tend to agree. Virginia has way too much to lose by not allowing late entires into this signature requirement because so much will likely change after Iowa and New Hampshire, not to mention South Carolina and Florida a few weeks later. That still gives the candidates plenty of time to get their signatures in. The deadline should be mid-February


    Wonder how much economic benefit there is to Iowa and NH every four years during primary season?
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    Dec 25, 2011 10:09 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    freedomisntfree said

    I have hunch that they'll get this worked out. Too much lost revenue to not have a primary - motels, media, newspapers, and etc.



    I tend to agree. Virginia has way too much to lose by not allowing late entires into this signature requirement because so much will likely change after Iowa and New Hampshire, not to mention South Carolina and Florida a few weeks later. That still gives the candidates plenty of time to get their signatures in. The deadline should be mid-February


    Don't expect much support for Gringrich after he lashed out at VA's primary rules which, IMO, are clear and fair. That he couldn't collect 10,000 signatures (with at least 400 from VA's 11 Congressional Districts) speaks to his incompetency.

    "The Virginia GOP is unapologetic and matter of fact about it all, understanding full well their state's resulting lack of importance to the candidates."

    http://www.huliq.com/10061/virginia-gop-primary-rules-too-tough-or-just-right
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    Dec 25, 2011 5:40 PM GMT
    murano said

    "The Virginia GOP is unapologetic and matter of fact about it all, understanding full well their state's resulting lack of importance to the candidates."



    I tend to think that EVERY state is going to be important this primary cycle. This GOP thing is not going to be decided in the first few primaries. Wouldn't be surprised if the wins get spread around a bit, and that the nominee isn't decided until late in the game --- possibly not even until the convention. I predict some twists, turns, and a few surprises before it's all over.
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    Dec 25, 2011 5:54 PM GMT
    Rules are rules. They were well publicized. I don't have a strong opinion on this, but IMO amending them at this point would be unfair to those who followed them. Gingrich has chosen to emphasize unconvential strategies, such as heavily leveraging off his outstanding debate performances versus seeking funding to put an organization in place and doing the retail politics. It burned him in this case. It's all about being accountable for your previous decisions. I don't think the Virginia GOP will be hurt one bit.
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    Dec 25, 2011 6:52 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidRules are rules. They were well publicized. I don't have a strong opinion on this, but IMO amending them at this point would be unfair to those who followed them. Gingrich has chosen to emphasize unconvential strategies, such as heavily leveraging off his outstanding debate performances versus seeking funding to put an organization in place and doing the retail politics. It burned him in this case. It's all about being accountable for your previous decisions. I don't think the Virginia GOP will be hurt one bit.



    I also don't think the Virginia GOP is all that important in the grander scheme of things -- at least not THIS election cycle.
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    Dec 25, 2011 6:54 PM GMT
    Organization has always been an issue with genius Gingrich. He should have known better and done something about it. I don’t think they should change the rules for the folks who didn’t pay attention.
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    socalfitness saidRules are rules. They were well publicized. I don't have a strong opinion on this, but IMO amending them at this point would be unfair to those who followed them. Gingrich has chosen to emphasize unconvential strategies, such as heavily leveraging off his outstanding debate performances versus seeking funding to put an organization in place and doing the retail politics. It burned him in this case. It's all about being accountable for your previous decisions. I don't think the Virginia GOP will be hurt one bit.



    I also don't think the Virginia GOP is all that important in the grander scheme of things -- at least not THIS election cycle.


    I'm not sure about this. VA has 46 delegate seats, that's what...10% of what's needed for the nomination?
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    Dec 25, 2011 7:14 PM GMT
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    socalfitness saidRules are rules. They were well publicized. I don't have a strong opinion on this, but IMO amending them at this point would be unfair to those who followed them. Gingrich has chosen to emphasize unconvential strategies, such as heavily leveraging off his outstanding debate performances versus seeking funding to put an organization in place and doing the retail politics. It burned him in this case. It's all about being accountable for your previous decisions. I don't think the Virginia GOP will be hurt one bit.



    I also don't think the Virginia GOP is all that important in the grander scheme of things -- at least not THIS election cycle.


    I'm not sure about this. VA has 46 delegate seats, that's what...10% of what's needed for the nomination?

    In the general election, Virginia is considered a swing state and is very important.
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    Dec 25, 2011 8:52 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    In the general election, Virginia is considered a swing state and is very important.
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    Yes it is, but something tells me that THIS election is going to be unlike any we have seen in quite some time.