Receiving Energy

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    Jun 15, 2008 7:26 AM GMT
    I just had a great massage - I mentioned to my therapist that I was having pains in my left hip (I'm right handed) and during the massage my left wrist was cracking and popping like crazy. He mentioned that there may be issues with my Receiving Energy and that the hip and wrist were pressure points.

    I checked on line and couldn't find anything about this - does anyone know what he is talking about?

    Thanks!!!
  • Squarejaw

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    Jun 15, 2008 2:40 PM GMT
    I seriously doubt even your therapist knows what he's talking about.

    You could ask him about the nature of this energy, the science behind, the tools used to detect and quantify it, and the double blind studies that support his thesis.
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    Jun 15, 2008 3:47 PM GMT
    He's probably talking about the eastern medicine philosophy of the energy flow in the body. It's one of the fundamental concept behind acupuncture and acupressure. It also pertains to some extent to chiropractic, in that nerve impingement can cause problems by restricting the flow of nerve impulses.

    You can read some about it here:
    http://nccam.nih.gov/health/acupuncture/

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    Jun 15, 2008 3:48 PM GMT
    tell him to go fly a kite .. no really .. like Benjamin Franklin in a lightning storm. He will then understand Receiving Energy
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    Jun 15, 2008 3:51 PM GMT
    tanktop saidIt also pertains to some extent to chiropractic, in that nerve impingement can cause problems by restricting the flow of nerve impulses.
    lol, Maybe he should have just said, "you have a pinched nerve"
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    Jun 16, 2008 3:38 PM GMT
    Hey guys thanks for the input!

    Squarejaw - I think he was in a hippie commune outside Eugene, Oregon for a while so that may have an impact! LOL!

    Tanktop - I think this is what he was probably referring to - I'll check-out the link. But it is probably a pinched nerve... icon_smile.gif
  • auryn

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    Jun 16, 2008 4:52 PM GMT
    I may not be able to answer this in Western Traditional Med terms, but I'll try to translate.
    A little background first: Massage in the States combines a lot of Chinese Medicinal (as well as some Ayruvedic) philosophies and theories on how the body functions with Traditional Medicinal/Scientific study.

    The concept he was talking about was a very short version of how the blocking of Qi (chi = the universal energy that surrounds, flows through, and sustains life) can manifest itself.

    Our bodies have ways of holding stress, through our various systems, that can manifest itself more subtly than just feeling pain or feeling ill. From centuries of study (though not as scientifically proven as we'd like it, so we down play these concepts though they came well before Gregor Mendel brought us genetics and before our modern scientific method was born) the Chinese have noticed that certain stimuli produce a number of results. Many of us Massage Therapist have to study these claims, and the methods by which the data was compiled, and use them to our clients' benefit. Unfortunately, not all use the scientific method to explain what's going on and not always is it possible to speak to the modern rational thinker in terms that he can understand.

    So, not having worked on you, I couldn't say that what he told you is a load of horseshit, but I know he couldn't prove his findings to you either outside of the fact that you felt better after he worked on you. Energy work can release endorphines and other good feeling hormones through the Therapist's manipulation of your bodies systems using lots of hypothesis and unproven theory. However, he didn't hurt you or claim to heal a disease of yours, so next time just nod and smile. icon_smile.gif

    I hope somehow, something in what I've written made sense.
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    Jun 16, 2008 7:48 PM GMT
    Kind of sad to see these guys making crack jokes about something that they experience, but most likely don't really know or understand.

    I'm not a hippie, I'm no expert or Dr. or anything, but doesn't take a degree to know that everything in this world has energy. Kinetic energy, mental/emotional, physical energy, etc. This energy flows through us, and can flow from/to other people as well. It can also be known as your aura. This is also why yoga and massage are known to "heal" the body, not only do they benefit the body physically but energetically as well.

    Your body is filled with energy, the energy in your muscles that you use to exercise or do your daily functions, the energy you use to think and process thoughts, etc. Even been around a person that just seems to suck the life out of a room? Usually those people have a negative form of energy that feeds on anyone else around them.

    Anyways, whether you believe in it or not doesn't really matter I guess but the point here is that if your massage therapist is making comments about energy being blocked in your body, due to a pinched nerve or pulled muscle, then he's probably right and I wish all therapists were that in tune with the human body.
  • auryn

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    Jun 16, 2008 8:09 PM GMT
    Oh, they just need more massage, MuscBudSea. It makes people happier and, therefore, less critical.icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 16, 2008 8:13 PM GMT
    I've bone a bit of research and my therapist may have had a valid observation. The Oregon Health Sciences University had the following posted on thier website as well as links to other sources.

    http://www.ohsu.edu/health/health-topics/topic.cfm?id=7946&parent=12327
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    Jun 16, 2008 9:27 PM GMT
    Auryn saidOh, they just need more massage, MuscBudSea. It makes people happier and, therefore, less critical.icon_smile.gif


    Agreed icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 17, 2008 2:13 AM GMT
    swpdxguyduring the massage my left wrist was cracking and popping like crazy.

    That happens to me during a massage when I have to provide my own happy ending.icon_biggrin.gif

    Actually, there have been a bunch of studies of the efficacy of "Healing Touch," a particular type of energetic medicine that many nurses have learned. I'm not sure how reliable the research actually is, but it seems sufficient to me to cite the placebo effect.

    Here is a collection of some research:
    http://tinyurl.com/4ogamx

    On the other hand, it's obvious that people crave and enjoy touch. I don't know if there's an actual mechanism by which "energy" is transferred, but we certainly know that children raised without touch suffer. Remember Harlow and his famous studies of infant monkeys and the "terry cloth mother":

    http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Harlow/love.htm
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    Jun 17, 2008 2:16 AM GMT
    Whenever anyone mentions transfer of energy, you should always ask them to write down the Lagrangian for it.

    Otherwise, c'mon!


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    Jun 17, 2008 2:18 AM GMT
    Make up your own mind on what you believe. Nobody knows more about what is right for you than you do. Look up all the information, ask yourself what you believe and stand your ground.
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    Jun 17, 2008 2:21 AM GMT
    Auryn saidOh, they just need more massage, MuscBudSea. It makes people happier and, therefore, less critical.icon_smile.gif
    I'm sold. If it feels good, I'll take one. two even. when can I make my appointment? And what is the realjock discount?
  • auryn

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    Jun 17, 2008 5:26 AM GMT
    ActiveAndFit said[quote][cite]Auryn said[/cite]Oh, they just need more massage, MuscBudSea. It makes people happier and, therefore, less critical.icon_smile.gif
    I'm sold. If it feels good, I'll take one. two even. when can I make my appointment? And what is the realjock discount?[/quote]

    Wish I knew some Massage Therapists in San Diego for you to go to ActiveAndFit. icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 17, 2008 3:08 PM GMT
    muchmorethanmuscle saidYour therapist was probably generalizing that your left side was hurting and associating it with having trouble receiving energy because in eastern philosophies the left side of the body is considered the receptor and the right side of the body is considered to project energy. The body can be looked at like a yin and yang symbol. One side being feminine and the other side being masculine. The left side being the receiver is feminine and the right side is masculine. The upper body is considered masculine and the lower half of the body is considered feminine. This information doesn't have to be proven by science as it is based on ancient philosophies, not science based.

    More than likely your massage therapist is very familiar with Chi Gong or Reiki which works with the body's energy.

    I know most people expect science to prove everything that might seem a bit foreign but realize that the Chinese were able to find the meridians within the human body for their acupuncture practices. This healing art was around thousands of years before Christ and is considered the oldest form of medicine for treating a variety of ailments.

    I'm a graduate of the Chicago School of Massage Therapy School myself and have also taken Reiki courses and although the two healing arts are interrelated they can be incorporated together for some really powerful healing.

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    Great summary - and I think this is exactly what my therapist was talking about. The popping in my wrist has stopped - but I still have the pain in my hip (which may be a pinched nerve) - but this thread has given me a lot to think about and research.

    I agree with Auryn - we could all use more massage! icon_biggrin.gif