President Obama's Christmas Present to America

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    Dec 26, 2011 6:16 PM GMT
    Christmas is only a couple of days away, and this week the Obama administration delivered a last-minute Christmas present to all of us, one that's been 20 years in the making. On Wednesday, following a tortured history, the EPA finally released new standards that sharply reduce the emissions of mercury and other airborne toxins from power plants.

    20100317_MERCURY_pollution.wide_photo.pr

    Article: http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/12/president-obamas-christmas-present-america
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    Dec 26, 2011 6:32 PM GMT
    Oh and I thought America may of been blessed with Owebama's resignation.
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    Dec 26, 2011 6:34 PM GMT
    This totally explains Texas. Crikey.
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    Dec 26, 2011 7:57 PM GMT
    TigerTim saidThis totally explains Texas. Crikey.



    Yeah, the governor's mansion is downwind from a large mercury producing plant.

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  • creature

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    Dec 27, 2011 12:25 AM GMT
    Damn, Texas.
  • JP85257

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    Dec 27, 2011 2:49 AM GMT
    The EPA needs to be shut down or at least be castrated.
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    Dec 27, 2011 2:51 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]JP85257 said[/cite]The EPA needs to be shut down or at least be castrated.[/quote

    By all means, tell us why.
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    Dec 27, 2011 2:59 AM GMT
    JP85257 saidThe EPA needs to be shut down or at least be castrated.


    Go stand downwind from a coal fired power plant.
    Breath deeply.
    In/out
    Big deep breaths.
    Fill those lungs.
  • JP85257

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    Dec 27, 2011 3:01 AM GMT
    mke_bt said
    JP85257 saidThe EPA needs to be shut down or at least be castrated.


    Go stand downwind from a coal fired power plant.
    Breath deeply.
    In/out
    Big deep breaths.
    Fill those lungs.

    Why dont you go such on the tail pipe of a Prius?
  • mke_bt

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    Dec 27, 2011 3:27 AM GMT
    JP85257 said
    mke_bt said
    JP85257 saidThe EPA needs to be shut down or at least be castrated.


    Go stand downwind from a coal fired power plant.
    Breath deeply.
    In/out
    Big deep breaths.
    Fill those lungs.

    Why dont you go such on the tail pipe of a Prius?


    That gave me a huge laugh.
    A Prius? lol
  • musclmed

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    Dec 27, 2011 4:14 AM GMT
    White4DarkerFL saidChristmas is only a couple of days away, and this week the Obama administration delivered a last-minute Christmas present to all of us, one that's been 20 years in the making. On Wednesday, following a tortured history, the EPA finally released new standards that sharply reduce the emissions of mercury and other airborne toxins from power plants.

    20100317_MERCURY_pollution.wide_photo.pr

    Article: http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/12/president-obamas-christmas-present-america



    I think its great to reduce Mercury, but you better not think you are safe from the increase in electric prices from these regulations.

    The graph says Mercury in Pounds. Not Mercury in Pounds / citizen, or a Mercury per kilowatt.

    As you know California produces ALOT of power, but woefully less than what its needed to run its state. That goes for NY state and other liberal states.

    Texas seems to be a Powerplant state, I would thank Texas/Texans for taking the burden.

    I am so glad Obama is doing something for Texas.

    Mercury doesn't seem to stop the 3-4x per week sushi habits in my zipcode. So I doubt this will have any effect on Jeremy Piven types.
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    Dec 27, 2011 5:54 AM GMT
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    U.S. Total 185,252 GWh
    Texas 13,838
    Ohio 12,024
    Pennsylvania 11,324
    Indiana 10,996

    Ohio and Pennsylvania produce about 2000 and 2500 less GWh the amount of electricity from coal plants in Texas, and yet Texas produces almost double the amount of mercury than those states.
  • musclmed

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    Dec 27, 2011 3:21 PM GMT
    yeah agreed. But is all of the GWH for Texas? indirectly its for everyone.

    True to Obamas stated goal to "make electric prices necessarily skyrocket."

    Hopefully this is a staged phase in. Without coal fired electric, electric would be about 3-5x the current price.

    Again , I am not sure how instructive it is to color in individual States.
    It is wrong to think that it has to do with dirty Texan's or Pennsylvanian's. Its more to do with Dirt Californian's and New Yorker's.

    Last on your electric bill you can elect for Green power, but this is deceptive too.
    What it does is cherry pick, and the remaining demand is filled in by people who don't elect for that. It is a waste. It does NOTHING for the environment and the remaining demand is filled in by coal.

    Without Coal our electric prices would float more like gas prices, is anyone willing to pay for that now?
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    Dec 27, 2011 3:41 PM GMT
    Any kind of regulation which is aimed to protect people from avoidable health risks is evil. People should be given the freedom to be poisoned by businesses. That´s the American Way.
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    Dec 27, 2011 4:30 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidAny kind of regulation which is aimed to protect people from avoidable health risks is evil. People should be given the freedom to be poisoned by businesses. That´s the American Way.


    Exactly! Business venture and profit takes precedence over the health of those poor, working class, middle class scumbags who just merely "exist" around these bastions of economic success!