* * Trade a 2006 Prius for a 2002 Infiniti G20? * *

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    Dec 27, 2011 1:08 PM GMT
    I'm wondering if this is a good deal?

    Some facts:

    Infiniti G20 2002 is a good used car according to Consumer Reports.
    Price: $6,000

    Prius 2006 is a good car.
    Price $10,000

    What do you think?
  • rnch

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    Dec 27, 2011 1:10 PM GMT
    having driven both cars; i would find the infiniti a much more enjoyable, satisfying car to drive on a daily basis.
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    Dec 27, 2011 1:46 PM GMT
    All depends on the miles/condition. I'd avoid any car been in an accident. The Infiniti will be feel more luxurious..but a newer Toyota will cost less to maintain and be more practical.

    If it was me, I'd take the Toyota.
  • rnch

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    Dec 27, 2011 2:13 PM GMT
    Gawd help your credit rating when it's time to replace the batteries in a Prius...and how does one safely dispose of the old batteries icon_question.gif
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    Dec 27, 2011 2:57 PM GMT
    G20? That seems like a big downgrade. Is there a reason for wanting to trade your Prius?
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    Dec 27, 2011 3:34 PM GMT
    rnch saidGawd help your credit rating when it's time to replace the batteries in a Prius...and how does one safely dispose of the old batteries icon_question.gif


    Bingo. the whole what to do with the used batteries is the huge 'elephant in the room' issue that no one is talking about. So far as i know, there is no viable recycling/reclaimation infrastructure set up, or even being considered to be set up to handle this issue. It is a far different situation that merely recycling lead-acid batteries we now have. (which works quite well)
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    Dec 27, 2011 3:38 PM GMT
    StephenOABC saidI'm wondering if this is a good deal?

    Some facts:

    Infiniti G20 2002 is a good used car according to Consumer Reports.
    Price: $6,000

    Prius 2006 is a good car.
    Price $10,000

    What do you think?


    Just because CR says a car is a 'good used car' doesnt mean its.....good. All it means is that it has a decent repair record, and reasonable resale value.

    The 2nd generation G20, aka the Primera in Europe, was notably 'average' overall, and a far cry from the really good 1st generation G20 (Sentra based) car.

    as a couple other posters here have noted, neither car (the G20 or the Prius) are at the top of anyone list as being desireable, soul-stirring pieces of transportation. At the price point you are at (6-10K) there are a lot of things out there that are far more tasty.
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    Dec 27, 2011 3:46 PM GMT
    StephenOABC saidI'm wondering if this is a good deal?

    Some facts:

    Infiniti G20 2002 is a good used car according to Consumer Reports.
    Price: $6,000

    Prius 2006 is a good car.
    Price $10,000

    What do you think?


    Consumer Reports rated the iPhone 4 as "not recommend" yet they considered it to be the best smartphone of the year.
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    Dec 27, 2011 3:51 PM GMT
    a303guy saidas a couple other posters here have noted, neither car (the G20 or the Prius) are at the top of anyone list as being desireable, soul-stirring pieces of transportation. At the price point you are at (6-10K) there are a lot of things out there that are far more tasty.


    Yeah, for $6-10k, I would stay with a non-luxury Japanese brand, preferably one with a clean carfax report and one owner. The luxury brand just means you'll get an older car with more maintenance. The only exception being an Acura Integra or RSX.

    If you want sporty, I would pick a Miata or MR2 or even a Honda Fit. If you need bigger, I'd do a Honda Accord with a manual. Still fun to drive, but reliable and has a back seat. Also, Civic, Corolla, RAV4 and Mazda3 are worth a look.
  • rnch

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    Dec 27, 2011 3:58 PM GMT
    xrichx saidG20? That seems like a big downgrade. Is there a reason for wanting to trade your Prius?



    yeh...it will soon be time for new batteries for the Prius icon_exclaim.gif




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    Dec 27, 2011 6:16 PM GMT
    I'm not sure how recent the article this link I have is, but a replacement battery seems to be quite low (under $3,000):

    http://priuschat.com/forums/prius-hybrid-ev-alt-fuel-news/53896-toyota-announces-price-reduction-prius-hybrid-batteries.html

    The main thing you need to do is to drive the two cars and decide which better fits your needs. As with any car that is older, you do need to keep in mind repairs and maintenance, especially once you're passing the 5 years mark on the age. Have a mechanic or shop look at the cars and have them give an independent opinion on what's good and bad about each car.

    The strange thing is that both really aren't competitors to each other in the market place. Is there a reason why you're looking at these two specific cars?
  • ivanuri97

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    Dec 27, 2011 6:29 PM GMT
    Of the choices, I'd pick the Infiniti. I would do anything to avoid a Toyota, let alone a Prius! I'm not a fan of Toyota's, so I admit I am biased. I also don't believe in hybrids really. I would prefer a diesel, gets just as good mileage and you don't have to look like a dork driving a Prius! icon_lol.gif If you are really looking into a used hybrid, I agree with those who mentioned the battery...that could be costly and so not worth it, but check out a Honda Civic Hybrid, probably a good option. Look into a Jetta or Gold TDI (diesel) as well, coujld be another option. Good luck.
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    Dec 27, 2011 6:32 PM GMT
    charlitos said
    StephenOABC saidI'm wondering if this is a good deal?

    Some facts:

    Infiniti G20 2002 is a good used car according to Consumer Reports.
    Price: $6,000

    Prius 2006 is a good car.
    Price $10,000

    What do you think?


    Consumer Reports rated the iPhone 4 as "not recommend" yet they considered it to be the best smartphone of the year.


    Which version? GSM or 1X that VZ sells?

    Big difference.
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    Dec 27, 2011 7:17 PM GMT
    I'm not even going to get in to the whole thing but I just have to ask... why the hell would you give up a car that is 5 years old for a car that is almost 10 yrs old? icon_question.gif that makes no fucking sense to me. Keep what you have and trade up as in new model, less milage, etc... but don't go down. And if it's because its an "infiniti" blah... I drive a Nissan and while I love my Xterra... I wouldn't buy a Nissan product used again without some serious warranty like I did... warranty paid for itself within the first 3 months after I bought my truck.

    This post reminds of me when my stupid Ex called me and was like...
    Ex: "Babe! I can get a used red 2D mercedes coup for $20,000!"
    Me: "Eh ok... what year and how many miles?"
    Ex: "Oh it's an 04 and has 120K miles on it!"
    Me: "WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING EH?! THAT'S CRAP! For $15K you get something like a malibu new!"
    Ex: "...But it's red, and a mercedes coup!"

    Biggest faggot moment ever! I wanted to bitch slap him! Needless to say after talking sense to him... he got the malibu top of the line and NEW! Really, why buy someone elses "used" probems?!
  • rnch

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    Dec 27, 2011 7:27 PM GMT
    some peeps here are assuming that the OP now owns the Prius and is considering buying the infiniti.

    i'n not sure that is correct.

    my "take" is that he owns neither car right now and is considering either the prius or the infinitit.

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    Dec 27, 2011 7:36 PM GMT
    RobertF64 said
    charlitos said
    StephenOABC saidI'm wondering if this is a good deal?

    Some facts:

    Infiniti G20 2002 is a good used car according to Consumer Reports.
    Price: $6,000

    Prius 2006 is a good car.
    Price $10,000

    What do you think?


    Consumer Reports rated the iPhone 4 as "not recommend" yet they considered it to be the best smartphone of the year.


    Which version? GSM or 1X that VZ sells?

    Big difference.


    The GSM version since this was the one was originally for sale around the world. The Verizon iPhone 4 was released much later. The iPhone 4S did pass the consumer reports approval though.
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    Dec 27, 2011 7:38 PM GMT
    Ryan_Andrew saidI'm not even going to get in to the whole thing but I just have to ask... why the hell would you give up a car that is 5 years old for a car that is almost 10 yrs old? icon_question.gif that makes no fucking sense to me. Keep what you have and trade up as in new model, less milage, etc... but don't go down. And if it's because its an "infiniti" blah... I drive a Nissan and while I love my Xterra... I wouldn't buy a Nissan product used again without some serious warranty like I did... warranty paid for itself within the first 3 months after I bought my truck.

    This post reminds of me when my stupid Ex called me and was like...
    Ex: "Babe! I can get a used red 2D mercedes coup for $20,000!"
    Me: "Eh ok... what year and how many miles?"
    Ex: "Oh it's an 04 and has 120K miles on it!"
    Me: "WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING EH?! THAT'S CRAP! For $15K you get something like a malibu new!"
    Ex: "...But it's red, and a mercedes coup!"

    Biggest faggot moment ever! I wanted to bitch slap him! Needless to say after talking sense to him... he got the malibu top of the line and NEW! Really, why buy someone elses "used" probems?!


    You and I are on the same page. Luxury cars are stupid, unless you have like $40+ large in CASH and the car is NEW. Otherwise, you're just playing a wannabe poser.

    And if you have under $10 large, the first priority is PRACTICAL....as in late model, low mileage, non-luxury Japanese car. Fortunately, within that field, there are plenty to choose from.



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    Dec 27, 2011 7:44 PM GMT
    rnch saidsome peeps here are assuming that the OP now owns the Prius and is considering buying the infiniti.

    i'n not sure that is correct.

    my "take" is that he owns neither car right now and is considering either the prius or the infinitit.



    Possible but you don't by a luxuary car used... that's just poser and well stupid! The cost on maintaining it alone is nuts! I have an '09 Cadillac CTS and dropped serious down (financed for the incentives) for it but I got like 3 different warranties and insurance policies on that bitch! I'd never buy a used luxary car without considering the expenses involved with it. At least $75 a pop for each oil change and don't get me started on the rest of crap.. then we talking import?! Shit... at least with the Prius you can count on spending less on cass which would made up for it.If you're planning on dropping $10K get a chevy Cruze or maybe even an aveo... its about the same size and will be new! Hell, I might even give Hyandi a shot.

    Edit: speaking of imports... Japan isnt exactly back up to full capacity on parts these days either. The parts for luxary imports is even more expenseive and something else to consider. You can't just have anyone person make repairs on most of these cars. They are very much dealer specific repairs.
  • rnch

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    Dec 27, 2011 8:13 PM GMT
    RA, given the mediocre quality control of past GM products; i approve of you purchasing "3 different warranties and insurance policies".

    with a new toyota or nissan product i wouldn't waste my money doing so.

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    Dec 27, 2011 8:17 PM GMT
    The battery issue isn't an issue. It's fear mongering and hatorade from diesel fanatics and American car lovers.

    If the OP currently owns the Prius, I say hold on to it. When/if it ever dies, take it to the dealer and they will deal with the recycling.

    If the OP owns neither cars, you can do a lot better with $10K. Personally, I would look into the first generation Acura TSX. Super reliable, good on gas, handles great.
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    Dec 27, 2011 8:25 PM GMT
    rnch said RA, given the mediocre quality control of past GM products; i approve of you purchasing "3 different warranties and insurance policies".

    with a new toyota or nissan product i wouldn't waste my money doing so.



    Policy 1: Seperate Thieft Insurance
    Policy 2: GM Smart Care - total maintanace for 4 years
    Policy 3: Seperate windshield insurance

    didn't need them just got them because it was worth the protection. I have never had any issues with GM vehicles. My family has a long running history of working for GM and as such it's the family brand. Cadillac has won many awards for their vehicles quality and service.
  • rnch

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    Dec 27, 2011 8:38 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]Ryan_Andrew said... I have never had any issues with GM vehicles....[/quote]



    then you surely have been extremely fortunate icon_exclaim.gif
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    Dec 27, 2011 8:41 PM GMT
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    rnch said RA, given the mediocre quality control of past GM products; i approve of you purchasing "3 different warranties and insurance policies".

    with a new toyota or nissan product i wouldn't waste my money doing so.



    Policy 1: Seperate Thieft Insurance
    Policy 2: GM Smart Care - total maintanace for 4 years
    Policy 3: Seperate windshield insurance

    didn't need them just got them because it was worth the protection. I have never had any issues with GM vehicles. My family has a long running history of working for GM and as such it's the family brand. Cadillac has won many awards for their vehicles quality and service.


    Word. Cadillac is WONDERFUL regardless of what the haters say. I have never had any problems with any of my GM vehicles. And my Escalades and STS-V are three of the best rides I have ever owned. Now I'm selling my STS-V to get into a CTS-V and I'm sure it will be as good as the other Caddies.
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    Dec 27, 2011 8:42 PM GMT
    I am a car nut... I love cars. But your question is curious to me.

    "I want a pet. Should I get a turtle or a llama?" Those two cars are so different from each other and they say such completely different things about you.

    1. how much do you drive?
    2. how important is style?
    3. how important is fuel efficiency?
    4. how important is comfort?
    5. how important is resale value?


    They are both fairly durable cars and while the battery issue in the Prius is real, something major can go wrong with any car. You can take your car to the Toyota dealer and they can test the batteries for you.

    I think you need to ask yourself what you want out of your car and what you want it to say about you. What is important to you? That is your answer.
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    Dec 28, 2011 5:28 AM GMT
    Part I

    The Toyota Prius is my dream car.
    (Big maybe on the Tesla placing second.)


    Part II

    A long time ago, when Infiniti first came out and they had the t.v. ads not showing the car, I was impressed.

    My lover of two years who flaked on me had an Infiniti. In the Plano, TX area, it seems silver Infiniti cars are respectable.

    Part III What happened today after I made the original post.

    I got in my Prius. It doesn't have leather seats. It has a 6-disc changer. Long story short, I think of the 5 trims, it was one less than the highest trim.

    There wasn't much traffic making my 30 mile commute to work down Hwy 75 in Dallas. Because it was the second day after Christmas, there wasn't too much traffic, so a few of us had top speeds of 80 a moment here and there. It was great to have Hwy 75 feel like the Dallas Tollway (on a Sunday morning) for a change.

    It's a quiet joy to drive.

    Later in the day, I go to check on the 2002 Infiniti G20.

    There's no back-up screen of course like the Prius has. The screen of the Prius shows you a diagram of what's working (engine, battery, motor--it's past my bedtime. I may have this wrong). You can change this display for a column chart of miles per gallon. I could have gotten a navigation system to appear on the screen; but, since it didn't come with the car, I didn't pay to have that installed. SO, the 2002 Infiniti was a little less high tech on this count. Of course, the speedometer isn't digital either.

    But, when you look up, there was a panel to push back and let the sun in. There was a button to either vent the roof or roll the glass panel out of the way. (Good or nice feature.)

    The test drive was not smooth like my Prius. I'm sure, the acceleration was faster with the Infiniti. You know, I don't think I want anything that accelerates faster than my Prius. Some cars seem to jump when they have faster acceleration. I'm sure there are cars that don't jump or jerk their acceleration. The Infiniti I test drove, unfortunately, had conspicuous acceleration.

    The Infiniti was not as spacious for the driver in comparison to the Prius. One reason for this is that the Prius, with more aerodynamics, has a deeper dashboard.

    When I got out, I noticed there wasn't a handle on the interior roof at the driver's door. How odd! It seems there wasn't one when the car was new. This car was made that way.

    Conclusion
    If I were to compare a 2006 Prius to a 2006 Infiniti of a slightly larger size, the Infiniti would be the winner.

    P.S., the median mpg on my Prius is 45 mpg. Some days it's a little higher. It is never below 41 mpg.

    Also, with my going to the dealer every 5,000 miles, my carfax showed 20+ service visits but the Infiiniti showed 2.

    I understand my Lojack is of no value. It seems the Lojack is not transferable.

    I bought a kit to try to make my headlights not have that old look. Toyota says a more expensive way to fix that is to have them take off the bumper and put new headlight covers on.

    I'm hoping Blue Coral Wax might make invisible the evidence of me running along side a children's grocery basket I couldn't see. The children's basket was on the right side of the car. I told the grocery store manager at Krogers that children's grocery baskets should stay in the store and not be in parking lots because they're too small to see until you hear your car pushing it out of the way.

    The Blue Coral Wax may be available at AquaZoom Xtream Clean on Preston near Spring Creek in Plano for their $135 Bumper to Bumper car cleaning (interior and exterior with hand applied wax).

    Thank you for your help.

    I also learned that a car owner should sell his car himself to get more money than trading it in would earn him.