IS GOD REAL ???? TRUE or FALSE ????

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    Dec 28, 2011 1:52 PM GMT
    All of us on this site are wondering.......and i have read it recently......
    is GOD real ?? That is for each person to decide. But i will say this.

    PLEASE go to this site and decide for yourself.........

    then you be the judge......

    I will let the site speak for itself.....

    Stephen in Hawaii >>>>>>

    go here please >>>>>>

    http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/inquiries-and-interviews/detail/articolo/sacra-sindone-holy-shroud-sabana-santa-10738/



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    Dec 28, 2011 2:14 PM GMT
    We cannot prove, nor disprove, the existence of any deity/deities.

    Therefore, I choose to have my own special relationship with my a Higher Power of my own choosing until proven otherwise. Part of my relationship is that everybody else is entitled to their own belief.

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    Dec 28, 2011 3:04 PM GMT
    The Christian God claims he is real and there are no other Gods. Then he goes on and blames Satan for everything bad.

    However, I for one want to know more. If Satan is real, shouldn't we be allowed to hear his side of the story? And it seems that the Christian God is no more or less real than any of the other Gods.

    The Christian God has his people totally suckered. He tells them there is no competition...then has a fall guy to take the blame for anything bad. Its the perfect scam.
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    Dec 28, 2011 3:58 PM GMT
    White4DarkerFL saidThe Christian God claims he is real and there are no other Gods. Then he goes on and blames Satan for everything bad.

    However, I for one want to know more. If Satan is real, shouldn't we be allowed to hear his side of the story? And it seems that the Christian God is no more or less real than any of the other Gods.

    The Christian God has his people totally suckered. He tells them there is no competition...then has a fall guy to take the blame for anything bad. Its the perfect scam.


    It's a bit like the Republicans getting the blame for everything wrong in the day and life of a Gay Democrat.
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    Dec 28, 2011 4:12 PM GMT
    Rumors have it that there is a god, there is circumstancial evidence which proves nothing and that evidence is usually presented in the most rigid terms by his payed spokesmen called preachers who profit from his rumored existence.

    There are many glaring inconsistencies in these rumors and stories about his existence and what this god does to or for his 'followers', but those preachers who need him to exist to continue lining their pockets brush off the inconsistencies by saying "gods ways are above mans and will be made clear in gods own good time and ways, you must trust and obey, for there's no other way". Thats for damn sure !! because believing is all that stands between their god being there or not.

    All the god's the worlds religions created, have reaked havoc through their 'followers' interpretations of their particular god's will. Most of these followers believe their particular god is stronger than other god's and that its permissable to kill the other god's followers to preserve the 'power of the 'only true god'. All of this comes from what is believed by blind 'trust and obeying' what some preacher says for the benifit of getting a following of monetary supporters.

    You get the picture, the god's are pretty much a product of mans imagination and little more than that, the proof of that is in how many god's have come and gone over thousands of years with all that's left of them being carvings of stone in their supposed likeness.

    The Roman Catholics seem to have created a god carving up on a cross with staying power, because they added a hell fire story which requires money given to keep the 'followers' from burning eternally in that hell fire. These Catholics and all their protestant christian adherents created a real winner this time, Only time will tell how many more years it will take for some other more lucrative god story to come along to take its place.

    I know that you and I are here today and its good, I'll not waste time on made up god's, there may be one out there since space is endless, who knows? but on this earth these god's representatives are producing some of our worlds worst problems, so I'll avoid all of them. god only knows how badly he may be being misrepresented by these followers, I rather think his likeness may very well be better represented by those non believers because they don't force any version of god on their neighbors.

    Here's hoping some god can influence the 'godly' to act more like non believers to reduce the number of wars and atrocities done in their god's name.
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    Dec 28, 2011 4:20 PM GMT
    Depends on what you call "real"
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    Dec 28, 2011 4:27 PM GMT
    Since this is in the News section...

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    ...the New York Times said God is dead...
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    Dec 28, 2011 4:36 PM GMT
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    White4DarkerFL saidThe Christian God claims he is real and there are no other Gods. Then he goes on and blames Satan for everything bad.

    However, I for one want to know more. If Satan is real, shouldn't we be allowed to hear his side of the story? And it seems that the Christian God is no more or less real than any of the other Gods.

    The Christian God has his people totally suckered. He tells them there is no competition...then has a fall guy to take the blame for anything bad. Its the perfect scam.


    It's a bit like the Republicans getting the blame for everything wrong in the day and life of a Gay Democrat.


    Unlike the Christian God, I can produce actual proof of same-sex marriage licenses denied, gays being beaten and killed for their sexual orientation, etc.

    But I don't expect you to know that...as you'd need brain cells to figure it out.
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    Dec 28, 2011 4:49 PM GMT
    All I know is that when I see a beautiful Arizona sunset at night, or an incredible rainbow, or The Grand Canyon, and so many other things I just think to myself "How could there NOT be a God".
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    Dec 28, 2011 6:34 PM GMT
    White4DarkerFL saidThe Christian God claims he is real and there are no other Gods. Then he goes on and blames Satan for everything bad.

    However, I for one want to know more. If Satan is real, shouldn't we be allowed to hear his side of the story? And it seems that the Christian God is no more or less real than any of the other Gods.

    The Christian God has his people totally suckered. He tells them there is no competition...then has a fall guy to take the blame for anything bad. Its the perfect scam.


    Actually... the above is only one of several interpretation.. a lot of Christians will get rather upset with me when i argue that god in the Torach never claims to be the only god.. he says (in the english translation): "thou shalt hold no other god before me... "... so you can worship other gods, but that the god of the Torach has to be worshipped before all others.... in addition, the torach was written only for jews.... meaning that the god of the jews was not asking the entire world to worship only that god....

    The situation gets even stickier if you look at Roman history and find out that Christianity was split up at its inception in many different sects.. many of whom were bitheistic (believing in two equal gods, a good and an evil one) and many others believed that the god of the Torach was the evil god, not the good one....

    Of course the roman empire, when it decided to make Christianity the state religion, could not allow all these different sects to exist, it was too dangerous and would be a source of non-unity in the empire.. speeding the state to collapse... the religious leaders of the day debated long and hard over the matter, with the decision finally falling that the entire Roman empire follow the same codified dogma, with dissenters swiftly and bloodily dealt with,... this dogma is decided upon to this day in the Vatican, with constant changes ...(ex. evolution, heliocentrism and belief in aliens were recently legitimised by the Vatican)...

    However, the unified Roman church did not last long... Christianity again fell pray to schisms, with the orthodox churches, being more true to the biblical letter than the Roman churches, splitting off first, within a century or so.... the anglicans and the protestants and their plethora of churches following a millenium after.... the Roman attempt at the unified church failed....

    In the meantime btw, the Ethiopian and South Indian churches (which are older even than the Roman one) had always gone their own ways, always remaining outside of the Roman fold.... with many believing that Jesus went to India in the 18 year New Testament interim and that the Ark of the Covenant is buried in Ethiopia...

    A the mystery and intrigue of church politics .... a great book it is...

  • DesireIron

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    Dec 28, 2011 7:44 PM GMT
    IS GOD REAL ???? TRUE or FALSE ????

    A statement is true or false, not a question.
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    Dec 28, 2011 10:03 PM GMT
    But the power of the Universe still turns and the Sun of good fortune has shined down on me too; I feel blessed.
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    Dec 29, 2011 1:22 AM GMT
    IF the evidence of HIS burial cloth and a ressurection cannot
    CONVINCE you guys, I am not sure what will.

    But I am ASKING all that do not believe, would you really like
    to take that chance and LEAVE this world and find out that
    what I am saying about JESUS is for real ??

    Cause you KNOW as well as I do, that once you are OUT of
    this world, you cannot come back.

    Is it worth the RISK to reject HIM ??

    Please consider that.

    thanks

    Stephen >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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    Dec 29, 2011 1:53 AM GMT
    GreenHopper saidthe Torach never claims to be the only god.. he says (in the english translation): "thou shalt hold no other god before me... "... so you can worship other gods, but that the god of the Torach has to be worshipped before all others.... in addition, the torach was written only for jews......


    For your future reference, Torah is not spelled with a "c".

    Steve781 saidIF the evidence of HIS burial cloth and a ressurection cannot
    CONVINCE you guys, I am not sure what will.


    For your past reference. your "evidence" has not only been debunked by science but it is not even endorsed by the religion of your own Christ...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin
    "...The Catholic Church has neither formally endorsed nor rejected the shroud... radiocarbon dating test was performed on small samples of the shroud. The laboratories at the University of Oxford, the University of Arizona, and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, concurred that the samples they tested dated from the Middle Ages, between 1260 and 1390...... However the presence of the Turin Shroud in Lirey, France, is only undoubtedly attested in 1390 when Bishop Pierre d'Arcis wrote a memorandum to Antipope Clement VII, stating that the shroud was a forgery and that the artist had confessed..."
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    Dec 29, 2011 6:00 AM GMT
    Thumper.. this IS NOT the christian GAY BASH site..