Palestinians Offer to Renew Talks With Israel Without Settlement Freeze; Israel Rejects Offer

  • tokugawa

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    Dec 29, 2011 8:58 PM GMT
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    Ha'aretz.com

    PA reportedly submits new Quartet offer to restart negotiations, demand Israel releases 100 Palestinian prisoners;
    Israel rejects offer fearing renewal of only low-grade talks.


    By Barak Ravid

    The Palestinian leadership submitted a proposal to renew peace talks with with Israel that drops their long-standing demand that Israel ceases all West Bank settlement construction, a top Israeli official said on Wednesday.

    According to officials with knowledge of the proposal, the Palestinian Authority informed the Quartet two weeks ago that it would renege on its demand for a settlement freeze if Israel releases 100 prisoners as a show of good will.

    The prisoners in question are reportedly all veteran inmates, incarcerated in Israeli prisons since before the Oslo accords.

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    Israel rejects the Palestinian offer for two reasons: 1) That is replaces one precondition with another, and 2) since officials say the Palestinian proposal is too vague and did not make it clear whether the prisoners' release will lead to full talks that would include meetings between Netanyahu and Abbas or just the preparatory sessions.

    Fulll story: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/palestinians-offer-to-renew-israel-peace-talks-without-settlement-freeze-official-says-1.404201
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    Dec 29, 2011 9:20 PM GMT
    This is just further proof that the LIKUD Government Led by Netanyahu has no real interest in peace because it interferes in its goal of "Greater Israel". They are of the fanatic mindset that Palestine is Jordan west of the Jordan River. Read the LIKUD list of goals and their Party Statements, read Lieberman, Dannon and other Israeli leaders statements, they have no intention of making peace that includes an independent Palestine anywhere near the 67' lines in the West Bank. The around 7500 additional Settlement approvals this year is proof in itself that the LIKUD Israeli Government has no intention to really seek peace.

    The excuses Used by Netanyahu to not accept Palestines peace offer is just another smokescreen example of lack of interest in Peace, because the two matters he mentioned as being 'preconditions' are in fact obligations that the Israeli's were supposed to have performed previously. the 100 prisoners to be released was previously arranged, as for stopping the settlements, Israel is oblicated by law to stop them and by one vote short of unanimous pressure from the UN Security Council. The US stands alone in Isolating vote by refusing to join the UN in pressuring Israel to be reasonable.


    Of course we'll hear from Clinton that Netanyahu's actions on this subject "are not helpful". What a sad sad turn around from Obama's speach promoting peace a couple springs back, hell even a year ago. but he must act the part of the Israeli Lobby's lap dog to get re-elected.
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    Jan 01, 2012 5:44 AM GMT
    Nothing new. Israel doesn't wants peace.
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    Jan 01, 2012 8:27 AM GMT
    Merman316 saidNothing new. Israel doesn't wants peace.




    If peace were the goal of this LIKUD Israeli government, then they'd have stopped the settlement building and a peace agreement would have already been signed.

    But Netanyahu, Lieberman and the rest make it plain that what they want is more Palestinian land for settlements as attested to by their having approved around 7500 settlement units in 2011.

    The Israeli Gov. somehow believes they are entitled to talk peace while stealing from the Palestinians land as they talk. WHERE IN HELL DOES THAT WORK ON THIS EARTH ?? NO WHERE !!! and that is why there is no peace because they insist on having a right to steal. and we here in the US back them up by our tax dollars because religious fanatics believe we are obligated by god to bless Israel so that we can be blessed. I've heard that preached many a time. HOW SICK IS THAT ?
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    Jan 01, 2012 5:56 PM GMT
    Every dog has its day.
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    Jan 01, 2012 9:43 PM GMT
    Merman316 saidNothing new. Israel doesn't wants peace.


    No they just want to take more land that does not belong to them;; but then countries like the US, and even the UN support those repressors, and if we speak out against the injustice of it all, we get labeled anti semitic, in a hope to silance the truth from coming out. Israel needs to be stoped and put in it's place like the petulant child it really is.
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    Jan 01, 2012 10:08 PM GMT
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    Merman316 saidNothing new. Israel doesn't wants peace.


    No they just want to take more land that does not belong to them;; but then countries like the US, and even the UN support those repressors, and if we speak out against the injustice of it all, we get labeled anti semitic, in a hope to silance the truth from coming out. Israel needs to be stoped and put in it's place like the petulant child it really is.






    Buddy you got this right !!!!


    Take a look at the accusations of anti semitism against me from SoCal and Freedomisn'tfree(the new version of GEEZER that was kicked off the site), all because I dare to expose the truth where Israel's Lobby AIPAC and its Israeli dual Citizens in our government have in the past and are leading us to war. (look it up on SoCal's Debbie Wasserman Shultz topic)


    The hell of it is, the information is easy to find about who led us to these costly wars yet most don't want to face it, nor admit it and put an end to the problem. All because they don't want to take on the Lobby and be falsly labeled Anti Semitic. People don't want to acknowledge nor confront that Israel really isn't seeking peace but wants more land, because doing so for a politician whether Repub or Dem will cut off their money for re-election.

    Imagine the reaction to being under such Lobby influence similarly by Russians, Communists, Chinese or etc. not one of these groups have cost us anywhere close to what the Israeli Neo Cons and the Israeli Lobby has cost us in War Expenses and loss of credibility in our Foreign Policy world wide but particularly in the Middle East from our Carte Blanche backing of Israel. Israeli Dual Citizens were 41 our of 54 in Bush's War Administration, similar ratios existed amongst the "Project for the New American Century" (PNAC). many of these same people are even now pushing for war and pushing to continue backing Israel no matter what their unpeaceful acts are.
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    Jan 22, 2012 9:41 PM GMT
    From Haaretz News:


    Article titled: "Palestinians plan Diplomatic steps to put Israel under 'international siege'

    "Top Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat to meet Netanyahu's envoy in Jordan Tuesday for Prlimianry talks aimed at setting an agenda for Peace Negotiations. "


    "Senior Israeli officials said there was very little chance that the meeting would lead to the renewal of negotiations"

    Probably because the Israeli's are still even during these recent meetings to restart the process building settlements, adding plans for more settlements and approving more setllement construction. The total for 2011 reached approx 7000 units approved. yet the Israeli's consider it a precondition for Palestinians to demand an end to the settlement projects, which place a precondition on the ground during talks.

    Kinda like getting a pizza for company and eating it while discussing how to divide. OOOOPS !! I just ate your piece, OH !! How about this peice my friend, as it is picked up and eaten too before being handed over. In What world does such tactics work in fair dealing ?


    HENSE: Palestinians plan a "diplomatic offensive ... to launch later this month could include pushing the UN Security Council to Pass a resolution condemning settlement construction and urging the Indternational Criminal Court to try Israel for War crimes related to its 08' and 09' incursion into the Gaza Strip"

    "2012 "will be the start of an unprecedented diplomatic campaign on the part of the Palestinian leadership, and it will be a year of pressure on Israel that will put it under a real international siege." "THE CAMPAIGN WILL BE SIMILAR TO THE ONE WAGED ATAINST APARTEID IN SOUTH AFRICA"


    Anyone Blame the Palestinians ? Hasn't Netanyahu stalled enough ? Fact is his Party Platform under the LIKUD far righters in Israel suggests they are against a 2 state solution.

    Lets GOOGLE that and statements by top LIKUDNIKS Lieberman and Dannon



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    Jan 23, 2012 10:11 AM GMT
    Check out the Article: on Haaretz News " British Jews cancel meeting with Abbas in wake of pressure from Netanyahu"

    (Netanyahu must 'be very afraid of anything that might work toward peace and end his settlement building, why else would he stop dialogue)

    As Part of Abbas Pressure on Netanyahu's Administration for dragging its feet on the Peace process, Abbas is going about it peacefully by "Meeting with Jewish leaders around the world to increase pressure on Netanyahu's government to move ahead with peace talks"

    Jewish officials in Britain "said representatives from the Prime Ministers Office and the Israeli Embassy in London had pushed for the Meeting to be called off,"

    Reports regarding why Netanyahu pressured Britains Jewish leaders were denied by Netanyahu's bureau, 'while the Israeli Embassy in London refused to comment. From the story It appears to be punishment because Abbas doesn't want to meet with Netanyahu while he continues to rob the Palestinians land).
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    Jan 24, 2012 7:08 PM GMT
    Illegal outposts are on Private land and there there are some being built every day on Palestinians private land. These settlers see the example of the Israeli Government building settlements, they read of how Netanyahu gives order to his judicial aides to find ways to 'make them legal', so why wouldn't jewish settlers take their leaders example and do the same thing? That's whats happening anyway.

    Is there any wonder that Abbas is planning to take Israel before the UN to ask for sanctions against them for their continued Settlement projects? This constant adding of settlements while claiming a desire for peace from Israeli's is a slap in the face. Where on earth does it work to seek peace while stealing from the party you seek peace with?

    On Haaretz News Is an Article today about Netanyahu's stretching legality to appease settler ouposts residents on Palestinian lands.


    The title of the article is "TIME TO EVACUATE MIGRON OUTPOST"

    "The story of Migron is not only a story of contempt for the law, the legal system and justice: it is also a slap in the face to the international community and a grow violation of a cabinet resolution."

    Look it up, its well worth reading and will help the reader understand just what a rotton system the Palestinians are faced with.