Considering joining the military.

  • Trepeat

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    Dec 30, 2011 1:43 AM GMT
    Hello, RJ people. I'm very strongly considering enlisting the Canadian military at some point in the next few months, and was wondering if any of you might be able to tell me a bit about what to expect, and whether it's a worthwhile decision?

    I've currently got two years of University education under my belt, and am taking this year off, as a first, due to some big life transitions. I'm majoring in Psyche, but have recently become pretty disillusioned with the prospects of actually being able to make a viable career out of it. I don't want to go massively into debt after getting my Bachelor's to attend grad school, only to discover that there aren't any jobs for me. So, I've decided that I want to take a break from my education and pursue some other avenues for a bit. I've recently had to leave behind my entire social network that I spent the past few years building, so I don't really have anyone in my life who'd give me a reason to stay here. I want to travel eventually, but don't want to spend six months saving the money I earned at a minimum-wage job to spend a month by myself abroad. I'd rather wait until I have a good companion to share the experience with.

    I'm leaving in a week to begin a six month volunteer program that will take me across the country, which I'm really looking forward to, but don't really have any idea what to do when I'm finished. I know that I don't want to take some crappy position in a mall somewhere, have to move back in with my parents, and likely end up wasting the majority of my time and money. I like having structure in my life, and want to do something that will challenge me and keep me engaged, so I'm thinking the military may be a good fit. It would certainly limit some of my freedom to do whatever I want, but I also don't want to find myself turning twenty-five in a few years with nothing to show for it but a collection of empty liquor bottles.

    Anyone here joined the military? How was your experience? Thoughts on it?
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    Dec 30, 2011 1:49 AM GMT
    Joined the American military. Not sure how much different they are from each other. Though I'm sure ya'll shoot snowballs at each other instead of bullets...icon_cool.gif
  • Trepeat

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    Dec 30, 2011 1:55 AM GMT
    Was it a positive experience for you? How long did you enlist for?

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    Dec 30, 2011 2:00 AM GMT
    Grew up in a military family.

    It is a great career and the benefits it brought were beyond imagining.

    The cdn forces are tough, respected, and highly trained.

    the three branches (Army, navy , and CAF) all offer great career choices.

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    Dec 30, 2011 2:04 AM GMT
    apply to Royal Military College in Kingston and become an officer by 24 or 25. Take every course you they offer you when you get your commission. Be prepared to move every two years. With every new course and move you move up in rank. By your 40s you will be a command rank officer. you could even make the general staff.

    try to learn French.



    Or you can go the professional tradesman route by enlisting and taking a trade course (they will pay you to learn, train you, and deploy you.



  • CdnArmyMedic

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    Dec 30, 2011 2:09 AM GMT
    Hey bud,

    Joining the CF is an awesome idea i've been in the military for 12 years now and love it. However since you only have two years of university left, see if you can come into the Reg. Officer Training program and they will pay for the rest of your education and pay you at the same time. Being gay and in the military is not an issue at all and hasn't been since 1992 . However, depends on what you do etc. For example the infantry would be a bit more homophobic.. or rather could be. Due to the mass amounts of testosterone lol I was a company medic with the infantry in Afghanistan and i had no issues.. soldier first. If you prove your self to be a competent soldier/officer/sailor/airmen etc depending what you do. If you would like to know more, feel free to message me bud.
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    Dec 30, 2011 2:11 AM GMT
    i could go into a paean to service, and our role in a troubled world - but it is just a circuitous way of suggesting you consider for yourself

    Under what circumstances are you comfortable with the demands of a sometimes warrior

    you will have to shoot.
    And you will be shot at
    When you are deployed, on every sortie, some people have kill you at the top of their list of Things to Do Today. (But you KNOW that - and you are out in a team to prevent that by not being taken by surprise.


    I actually would prefer that my son (who is studying to be a cop) join the CF







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    Dec 30, 2011 2:13 AM GMT
    Canada has a military? :-p
  • CdnArmyMedic

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    Dec 30, 2011 2:15 AM GMT
    jmusmc85 saidJoined the American military. Not sure how much different they are from each other. Though I'm sure ya'll shoot snowballs at each other instead of bullets...icon_cool.gif





    Snowballs.. really ? oh how i love American ... uhm.. " humour" thats right humour is spelt with a U lol icon_razz.gif
  • CdnArmyMedic

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    Dec 30, 2011 2:17 AM GMT
    Haaretz saidCanada has a military? :-p


    lol yes we do.. and battle honours too! Ever heard of Vimy Ridge.... oh prolly not they dont teach americans anything like that lol icon_razz.gif ( teasing btw )
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    Dec 30, 2011 2:21 AM GMT
    CdnArmyMedic said
    Haaretz saidCanada has a military? :-p


    lol yes we do.. and battle honours too! Ever heard of Vimy Ridge.... oh prolly not they dont teach americans anything like that lol icon_razz.gif ( teasing btw )


    Haha nice one!
  • barriehomeboy

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    Dec 30, 2011 2:26 AM GMT
    Interesting point, the USA Navy Seals and Marines come to Canada to be trained by the JTF2 forces. It's a big secret. You really don't look like you'd belong in that world.
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    Dec 30, 2011 3:52 AM GMT
    Generic advice:
    Don't join the military out of desperation or because you got nothing else to do. You will hate every minute of it. You have to have a certain mindset to be in that sort of environment 24/7. You really have to WANT to be there.
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    Dec 30, 2011 3:55 AM GMT
    xrichx saidGeneric advice:
    Don't join the military out of desperation or because you got nothing else to do. You will hate every minute of it. You have to have a certain mindset to be in that sort of environment 24/7. You really have to WANT to be there.


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    Dec 30, 2011 4:10 AM GMT
    xrichx saidGeneric advice:
    Don't join the military out of desperation or because you got nothing else to do. You will hate every minute of it. You have to have a certain mindset to be in that sort of environment 24/7. You really have to WANT to be there.


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    Dec 30, 2011 4:12 AM GMT
    Do you know there are many industries in Canada that has labour shortage and government has to constantly rely on foreign workers and immigrants to fill those gaps. You may want to give that a try considering that you want to go in the CF not due to actual desire but out of fear and anxiety that things may go south once you are out of school. I am going to list a few job categories that has a high labour demand across Canada :-

    1) Physiotherapists
    2) Information Technology
    3) Electricians
    4) Insurance adjusters
    5) Social workers
    6) Civil Engineers
    7) Construction workers
    icon_cool.gif Cooks and Chefs
    9) Pharmacists
    10) Optometrists
    11) Scientists


    There are many other categories that has labour shortage in Canada. However, these are some of the categories where there is a vast labour shortage. If you fall in any such category or if you could change your university education to one of these, you may be heading in a very successful and lucrative career.

    Also, consider joining the police force. They are always looking young enthusiasts and all you need is a university degree irrespective of the stream. Plus, it is less stressful and demands less discipline compared to the military.
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    Dec 30, 2011 5:23 AM GMT
    If I could go back 17 years, I would.

  • TexanNC

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    Dec 30, 2011 6:15 AM GMT
    Not everyone joins the military because they can't find a job. I take offense to that. I paid for four years of college to get my degree and still ENLISTED because its what I wanted to do. Get my hands dirty and get out there and do something. I could've applied for OCS to get a commission but I'd rather have a dirty uniform :p. To think people only go in because they have to is horrible. Especially all those in WWII and Vietnam that died because they HAD TO after the draft.
  • CdnArmyMedic

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    Dec 30, 2011 6:25 AM GMT
    exactly!

    the military is a very viable career and the pay isnt that bad. for an "enlisted" or what we in the CF call an Non Commissioned member (NCM) after four years you are making high50,000 which if you are just out of hs is pretty good and it goes up from there and there are many financial perks to the job.. not to mention what we get to do every day! I love my career, and for myself, i also will be paid to do my Physician Assistant program next year which will give me an excellent post military career as well . So before you guys snuff the military think of this...

    It is the Soldier, not the minister
    Who has given us freedom of religion.

    It is the Soldier, not the reporter
    Who has given us freedom of the press.

    It is the Soldier, not the poet
    Who has given us freedom of speech.

    It is the Soldier, not the campus organizer
    Who has given us freedom to protest.

    It is the Soldier, not the lawyer
    Who has given us the right to a fair trial.

    It is the Soldier, not the politician
    Who has given us the right to vote.

    It is the Soldier who salutes the flag,
    Who serves beneath the flag,
    And whose coffin is draped by the flag,
    Who allows the protester to burn the flag.
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    Dec 30, 2011 6:28 AM GMT
    I've always wondered about joining. I'm very disciplined and admire the structured life style. It would also offer a good career. But, it never came to fruition.
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    Dec 30, 2011 6:29 AM GMT
    If you can tough it out in university, finish your degree. While doing this, consider entering the officer corps, if available at your university.

    I chose the officer corps route directly out of high school, received an excellent & fully-paid-for 4-year degree from Ohio State Univ., and had a nice 7-year stint as an Air Force navigator. Very rewarding, lots of travel, and I'd never trade that experience for anything.

    Military life is definitely not for everyone, but if it's structure you're seeking, you'll find it in the military. Whether you make it a career or not, you'll have many career options.

    Good luck.
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    Dec 30, 2011 6:39 AM GMT
    all i got to say is i did 8 years in the US Army, hands down the best decision i ever made. i Say go for it, although something to think about is what you want to do in the Canadian military. I'm not sure how they operate but the US Army has a ton of Military Occupational Specialties (MOS) basically your job in the military. you could try asking a recruiter in your area for a list so you can look it over before you join.
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    Dec 30, 2011 6:44 AM GMT
    I say join. if for nothing else the experience.
  • Trepeat

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    Dec 30, 2011 7:00 AM GMT
    Thanks for all the repsonses, guys. Definitely a lot of good stuff to consider.

    I know there are plenty of other lucrative career options out there, but I really don't give a fuck about money at this point in my life (except perhaps the prospect of oweing bunch of it). What appeals to me about the military is the discipline I'd gain, especially having come from lifestyle that really never required that much of me in terms of discipline. I feel like I need to seriously challenge myself and become involved in a program that will kick my ass into gear, and the Canadian Armed Forces sound like it could be that program. I'm a hard worker, but not really passionate about anything. Also, I tend to get myself into trouble when I don't have anything to preoccupy me, which I legitimately worry could take me down a less than beneficial path in my next few years if I don't have clear direction in life. Still, what's most making me consider it is the chance I'd have to grow and become stronger as a person, pushing myself outside of my comfort zone (where I've been for too long, now, and am ready to leave).

    Think I'm going to go speak with a recruiter in the next day or two, just to get a better feel for what it is I'd be doing.
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    Dec 30, 2011 8:34 AM GMT
    Been in the Armed Forces for 14 years here bud. It's definitely what you make of it. Good luck with your decision but just make sure its what you really want to do. The military (all inclusive) is a different world than what people realize and its not for everyone. I wouldn't go back and change one moment that I spent in it, including multiple over seas deployments, the experiences and the bonds of brother hood I formed could never have come from any other place than in the military.

    Best of luck with your decision.