New choral piece. Feedback?

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    Jan 05, 2012 1:53 AM GMT
    Something outside the pop world, oh no!

    i carry your heart with me (Final MIDI 1-2012) by Gabriel Stevens

    Just finished this piece for double choir. Concept being one choir sings the text outside the parentheses, the other sings text in the parentheses. Getting it ready for a read-through in the coming month!

    Obviously, the words aren't there... The program doesn't sing for me. I put in times to show where text comes in. (Also, don't blame me for the way MIDI sounds icon_razz.gif ) Any suggestions or feedback would be appreciated!

    The text is E.E. Cummings "i carry your heart with me(i carry it in"

    [0:00]i carry your heart with me(i carry it in
    my heart)[0:38]i am never without it[0:48](anywhere
    i go you go,my dear;and whatever is done
    by only me is your doing,my darling)
    [1:14] i fear
    no fate(for you are my fate,my sweet)i want
    no world(for beautiful you are my world,my true)
    [2:10]and it’s you are whatever a moon has always meant
    [2:23]and whatever a sun will always sing is you

    [2:39]here is the deepest secret nobody knows
    [2:58](here is the root of the root and the bud of the bud
    [3:15]and the sky of the sky of a tree called life;which grows
    [3:36]higher than soul can hope or mind can hide)
    [3:52]and this is the wonder that's keeping the stars apart

    [4:15]i carry your heart(i carry it in my heart)
  • DesireIron

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    Jan 05, 2012 2:08 AM GMT
    It sounds like the music really matches the sense of the text.

    What do you mean that you "Just finished this piece for double choir"? Did you compose the music or arrange it or something?

    Sorry I dont know anything about music composition or whatever. ... icon_redface.gif
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    Jan 05, 2012 2:14 AM GMT
    DesireIron saidWhat do you mean that you "Just finished this piece for double choir"? Did you compose the music or arrange it or something?


    Yep, finished writing the music. There are a few other settings of this text, but I don't much care for them, so I wrote a new one!
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    Jan 05, 2012 2:45 AM GMT
    john_galt said
    DesireIron saidWhat do you mean that you "Just finished this piece for double choir"? Did you compose the music or arrange it or something?


    Yep, finished writing the music. There are a few other settings of this text, but I don't much care for them, so I wrote a new one!

    Ok, I kneel down in awe. I dont know how you guys compose music. It's a total, awesome mystery to me. It sounds wonderful.
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    Jan 05, 2012 11:24 AM GMT
    As a voice major, I can appreciate such a fine work of art. Bravo. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 05, 2012 11:17 PM GMT
    Wow, that is beautiful!
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    Jan 06, 2012 11:19 AM GMT
    what DAW are you using?
    your MIDI doesn't have to sound this shitty...

    Nice work composing tho!
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    Jan 06, 2012 6:41 PM GMT
    Thanks for the positive replies, guys. icon_smile.gif

    @jodgsk: This is just whatever Finale spat out at me. (far from ideal as far as sound quality goes!) I'm fairly new to the world of recording software, so I'm on the lookout for something to create better audio samples, especially for instrumental music.
  • Voice22

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    Jan 06, 2012 6:45 PM GMT
    That sounds really great. Have you thought about breaks - even if its just like a collective breath mark and then re entrence in more spots? like around 2:06 is perfect
    I think a brief silence would make some of the chords (Which are great) really pop. Even if you did it around specific text you think is appropriate would be great

    Really good work!
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    Jan 06, 2012 7:02 PM GMT
    Voice22 saidThat sounds really great. Have you thought about breaks - even if its just like a collective breath mark and then re entrence in more spots? like around 2:06 is perfect
    I think a brief silence would make some of the chords (Which are great) really pop. Even if you did it around specific text you think is appropriate would be great

    Really good work!


    There actually is a breath indicated at that point in the score, haha. Unfortunately, the software took some liberties with carrying out some of the instructions... Gotta love technology! icon_rolleyes.gif That, and the default reverb might be covering some of it up... Nonetheless, thank you! icon_smile.gif

    I've got a tentative date with a choir to get a rough recording. That will be the true test!
  • Voice22

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    Jan 06, 2012 7:05 PM GMT
    john_galt said
    Voice22 saidThat sounds really great. Have you thought about breaks - even if its just like a collective breath mark and then re entrence in more spots? like around 2:06 is perfect
    I think a brief silence would make some of the chords (Which are great) really pop. Even if you did it around specific text you think is appropriate would be great

    Really good work!


    There actually is a breath indicated at that point in the score, haha. Unfortunately, the software took some liberties with carrying out some of the instructions... Gotta love technology! icon_rolleyes.gif That, and the default reverb might be covering some of it up... Nonetheless, thank you! icon_smile.gif

    I've got a tentative date with a choir to get a rough recording. That will be the true test!


    oh gotcha yeah fuckin technology yeah i imagine you had them and maybe just marked them as breath marks or something and the track played through em.

    oh good! are you conducting it too?
  • postyork

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    Jan 06, 2012 7:06 PM GMT
    Cool to see another composer around here! I'm doing my Mmus comp right now...

    Good work on the piece - you should definitely post the readthrough when you get a chance. Hard to tell much with midi (as it should be - I'm a big believer in just trying to read it through in your head and not trying to fiddle to make midi sound "good" - it'll never sound "good".)
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    Jan 06, 2012 7:19 PM GMT
    Voice22 said


    oh gotcha yeah fuckin technology yeah i imagine you had them and maybe just marked them as breath marks or something and the track played through em.

    oh good! are you conducting it too?


    I'm definitely not a choral conductor, haha... I fare much better conducting instrumental ensembles. I trust the director who is going to run through it for me, so all is well and good!

    postyork saidCool to see another composer around here! I'm doing my Mmus comp right now...

    Good work on the piece - you should definitely post the readthrough when you get a chance. Hard to tell much with midi (as it should be - I'm a big believer in just trying to read it through in your head and not trying to fiddle to make midi sound "good" - it'll never sound "good".)


    Thanks! And yes, I agree, MIDI will never sound good... Nothing beats live performers. Well, for the most part... ;)
  • okologische

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    Jan 06, 2012 7:31 PM GMT
    i love it!
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    Jan 07, 2012 3:44 AM GMT
    it's lovely ,
    intimate or thoughtful as the poem suggests .
    Really liked the " I fear " and "here is the deepest secret" sound matching.
    Enjoyed the counterpoint.
    Do i hear an ever so faint influence of Barber ?
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    Jan 07, 2012 5:41 AM GMT
    Very nice. Almost a little bit Arvo Part and that's the biggest compliment IMO