"History" channel

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    Jan 11, 2012 1:54 PM GMT
    Thank you South Park for roasting History’s trend of pseudo-history shows (in the episode "A History Channel Thanksgiving").
    Many documentary viewers criticize that formerly documentary-themed channels like the History and Discovery channels have given way to “reality” programming. Other topics these channels often exploit include 2012 and paranormal events.

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    More of these, please:

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    Less of these:

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    Jan 11, 2012 3:35 PM GMT
    YES! Public TV is almost the only channel that shows intelligent shows. Not that I ONLY watch intelligent shows!
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    Jan 11, 2012 3:47 PM GMT
    antelope saidYES! Public TV is almost the only channel that shows intelligent shows. Not that I ONLY watch intelligent shows!


    In Britain the BBC is funded by a tax which is enforced by some complicated system.. I remember seeing ads on the Tube trying to guilt people into paying up if they were delinquent.

    Their programming, news content on the web and audio are all really very good and informative. Would that the American public was interested enough in these topics. The garbage we have on TV is because that's what we've told the industry by our viewing habits that we want to watch.
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    Jan 11, 2012 4:10 PM GMT

    The South Park 'Were the Pilgrims Really Aliens' take had me laughing so hard my diaphragm hurt.

    Ever since A+E Networks (Disney/NBC and Hearst JV) brought Lifetime into the fold, both A&E and History have taken a turn for the trashy. The good educational stuff has shifted to the Bio Channel, Military History and History International, assuming your cable or sat carrier carrier carries them as part of their package.
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    Jan 11, 2012 6:25 PM GMT
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    Jan 11, 2012 7:29 PM GMT
    OK, the chart makes some good points, but Nat Geo has become bible central too, along with History. Did the Flood really happen? The Ten Plagues, "explained" by science. Who was Mary Magdalene?

    Why no Buddhism, Hindu, Muslim "history"? How about some Chinese history?
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    Jan 11, 2012 7:39 PM GMT
    njmeanwhile said
    antelope saidYES! Public TV is almost the only channel that shows intelligent shows. Not that I ONLY watch intelligent shows!


    In Britain the BBC is funded by a tax which is enforced by some complicated system.. I remember seeing ads on the Tube trying to guilt people into paying up if they were delinquent.

    Their programming, news content on the web and audio are all really very good and informative. Would that the American public was interested enough in these topics. The garbage we have on TV is because that's what we've told the industry by our viewing habits that we want to watch.


    I lived there for 4 years and never once paid my TV License. icon_eek.gif
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    Jan 11, 2012 8:22 PM GMT
    I have a feeling these cable channels are "forced" into showing this junk in order to capture viewers. It's either cater to the masses or risk going out of business.
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    Jan 11, 2012 9:11 PM GMT
    Yes, well also I think there just isn't much programming available to fill up the air time. I've been on a few of these programs, over the years. First, it turns out that really cool data sets and fancy lab equipment don't make very good video shots. The same for cow pastures where something dramatic happened 300 years ago. And you can only stand so much of the Ken Burns effect in one sitting. You can tell if the director/producer thinks your stuff is boring because their eyes start wandering. Before you know it, they've got you either a. climbing around on rocks or b. driving your car and trying to give a lecture. Then I noticed that when I actually watch one of those programs, its all people climbing around on rocks or driving their cars and trying to give a 20 second summary of their work while not running over someone. They all sort of look the same.

    It may be that these subjects aren't inherently suited for video. Or perhaps people who know the topics need to think of better ways to translate the ideas. Maybe this will start happening, now that everyone has video cameras and editing equipment sitting on their desks and even in their pockets.


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    Jan 11, 2012 9:38 PM GMT
    Agree with most here that the History channel has gone the way of reality TV. History International is slightly better. At least they have more ancient and military history topics which is what I'm in to. It's often very sloppy though. History is boring to most, so I guess in order to get and keep viewers they have to sensationalize.

    Best way to learn history is by taking a class or reading books and journals by good historians.
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    Jan 11, 2012 10:00 PM GMT
    I couldn't believe it when I watched the Discovery Channel the other week while flipping through the channels.

    Gun shows? Seriously? I used to watch the Discovery Channel in the 90's, and it seems to have changed a lot!

    It's a sad reflection of our country... at least PBS still has good documentaries as it isn't driven by the almighty dollar.
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    Jan 11, 2012 10:18 PM GMT
    You guys didnt know that the history and discovery and natgeo are all owned by FOX now?
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    Jan 11, 2012 10:21 PM GMT
    Yeah, they're becoming bullshit.

    There are a few interesting things - but even those tend toward the wildly speculative.

    Last nite I saw something on H2 about the creation of the universe and physics... there were a few moments of interest, but they trotted out the usual assholes like Hawking and Neil Tyson. So tired of those fucking hacks.
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    Jan 11, 2012 10:30 PM GMT
    First: a pet peeve. The network 1 hour 'news magazine' shows (like 20/20) that used to focus on 3 or 4 different and diverse stories. Now they take a criminal case (usually one that's resolved or ended) and, if it isn't already, sensationalize it. This is always a story that could be covered in 10 minutes but is stretched over an hour.
    Before every commercial is some sort of idiotic teaser.

    "Maryjane thought she got away with a simple crime, but it was about to get complicated, and DEADLY really quickly and in the most SHOCKING way!"
    (I think the writers spend too much of their time at the writers conferences playing Mad Libs.)

    After every commercial break is a 3-4 minute rehash of everything that's already been stated, just paraphrased (sometimes) to sound different.

    What I find interesting is that the people involved in all of these events almost always fall into one of 4 categories. 1. The super rich. 2. Celebrity. 3. The dirt poor. 4. The guy or girl next door.

    I find these stories to be neither enlightening, entertaining or even compelling.

    Now as to the History Channel (which a few years ago could have been called the Nazi History Channel) and these other specialty channels that make try to make weekly series about themes and subject matter that clearly is beyond their budgets. They would be better off consolidating and spending a little more time researching their subjects and less time padding. To devote the same amount of time to "how artificial hearts are made" as to "how shoe laces are made" seems ridiculous, and yet, there it is, right there in front of you.

    While I agree that PBS is the best, even NOVA has been starting to get spread a little thin.
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    Jan 11, 2012 10:40 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidYou guys didnt know that the history and discovery and natgeo are all owned by FOX now?


    That would explain it.

    Idiocracy marches on.
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    Jan 11, 2012 10:43 PM GMT
    "How shoelaces are made" is actually more interesting and important than how artificial hearts are made.

    Many people don't realize what goes into making a "simple" product, like laces, pencils, paper clips, etc.

    These are the docs that all the anti-capitalist OWS/Moveon type assholes need to see.

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    Jan 11, 2012 10:46 PM GMT
    I love TV canals like History,National Geographic,Discovery and so on
    Thy have some junk shows but some are really good
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    Jan 11, 2012 10:47 PM GMT
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    mindgarden said
    TropicalMark saidYou guys didnt know that the history and discovery and natgeo are all owned by FOX now?
    That would explain it.

    Idiocracy marches on.
    Good movie.


    No wonder FOX suppressed it.
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    Jan 11, 2012 10:50 PM GMT
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    TropicalMark saidYou guys didnt know that the history and discovery and natgeo are all owned by FOX now?


    That would explain it.

    Idiocracy marches on.


    Yes, it's Fox Broadcasting. The same company who puts out other shows like Glee, House, Fringe, Terra Nova, American Idol, etc.
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    Jan 11, 2012 10:58 PM GMT
    The Simpsons and Family Guy, etc.

    FOX is a damn fine company.
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    Jan 12, 2012 1:48 AM GMT
    JackNWNJ said"How shoelaces are made" is actually more interesting and important than how artificial hearts are made.

    Many people don't realize what goes into making a "simple" product, like laces, pencils, paper clips, etc.

    These are the docs that all the anti-capitalist OWS/Moveon type assholes need to see.



    And yet all the shoe laces in the world will not be able to help you should you have a medical emergency

    Both "simple" products and intellectual ideas/inventions are needed to make the world progress--it's not about which enterprise is better. Nor are ad hominems helpful.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 12, 2012 3:16 AM GMT
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    Jan 12, 2012 3:19 AM GMT
    I found this great new way to learn about history.. they are called books icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 12, 2012 3:27 AM GMT
    sponger saidI found this great new way to learn about history.. they are called books icon_biggrin.gif


    Depends on the author. Glenn Beck claims to know a lot about history ya know lol.
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    Jan 22, 2012 11:17 AM GMT
    mickeytopogigio said


    thanx for the nice short vid. XD
    another one on the same channel.



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    thanx for all the replies.