So, how long until muscle atrophy and having to backtrack your lifting sets in (due to prolonged sickness)

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    Jan 12, 2012 1:45 AM GMT
    Looks like my ongoing bout with gastroenteritis may possibly be from salmonellosis ... which could mean I'll be my back or on the can for the next 7-10 days*.

    Slight panic mode beginning to set in: aside from feeling like I wanna die from the spasmodic waves of pain that hit me in the gut - I'm starting to get kinda down about missing gym time and going catabolic.

    I've lost all my holiday weight and then a few pounds more, but with my luck that was all muscle and not fat weight.

    Also kinda pissed that if it really is salmonella... I won't be able to do raw eggs in my protein shakes anymore. icon_sad.gif



    *Yeah, I haven't been to the doctor yet... it is one of those things where the doctor usually cannot see me for 2weeks in which case I'll be over the worst of this -- but I'm close to dropping the $35 co-pay if I can get an appointment tomorrow or friday.
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    Jan 12, 2012 1:49 AM GMT
    AlphaTrigger saidLooks like my ongoing bout with gastroenteritis may possibly be from salmonellosis ... which could mean I'll be my back or on the can for the next 7-10 days*.

    Slight panic mode beginning to set in: aside from feeling like I wanna die from the spasmodic waves of pain that hit me in the gut - I'm starting to get kinda down about missing gym time and going catabolic.

    I've lost all my holiday weight and then a few pounds more, but with my luck that was all muscle and not fat weight.

    Also kinda pissed that if it really is salmonella... I won't be able to do raw eggs in my protein shakes anymore. icon_sad.gif



    *Yeah, I haven't been to the doctor yet... it is one of those things where the doctor usually cannot see me for 2weeks in which case I'll be over the worst of this -- but I'm close to dropping the $35 co-pay if I can get an appointment tomorrow or friday.
    Ahhh, shouldn't you be going to the emergency room?
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    Jan 12, 2012 2:01 AM GMT
    I don't know the answer to your question, but have you looked into adding egg whites to your shakes? I think the egg whites are pasteurized and would be a safer option, but don't take my word for it. They used to also sell pasteurized whole eggs, but they were expensive and tasted a little funny.
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    Jan 12, 2012 2:06 AM GMT
    having had bacteria borne food poisoning, I'd cough up that $35 bucks, or, you won't see the gym for a good month. I could not do anything for two weeks, dropped 8 pounds and nearly landed in the emergency room for dehydration.
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    Jan 12, 2012 2:08 AM GMT
    In Men's Health magazine in 2011, there was reference to a study from Japan which determined that it takes six weeks of inactivity for you to lose any muscle mass, assuming your diet is adequate. They had participants do NO exercise for 6 weeks with no loss of mass.

    While you are recuperating, you should get plenty of rest, make sure that you are SUPER hydrated. That means you should buy some pedialyte (get the generic... same thing but much cheaper) and drink. I like the grape flavored pedialyte over ice. YOu will lose electrolytes due to the diarhhea and/or vomiting, so the pedialyte will replace that. (Remember... it is for babies so drink several bottles of it)

    When you are feeling better, keep your calories high. You may not want a high protein diet due to the difficulty digesting it, but dont worry... you wont eat enough to gain weight and if you do... eh.... fuck it... you can lose the weight. But you need the calories to make sure your immune system is working hard and that you dont lose mass.

    Good luck, Bro!! And dont worry about the gym.... it will be there waiting on you. Just get HEALTHY and your gains will come back super fast when you are able to train again!!

    (BTW, dont rush back to your training only to get sick again... be patient and pragmatic and let yourself heal)

    EDIT: dont buy Gatorade... it is actually a crappy source of electroltyes and full of shitty sugar... pedialyte is much better. That is why it is so expensive. ($5/bottle brand name, $2.5/bottle generic)
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    Jan 12, 2012 2:18 AM GMT
    DudeInNOVA saidI don't know the answer to your question, but have you looked into adding egg whites to your shakes? I think the egg whites are pasteurized and would be a safer option, but don't take my word for it. They used to also sell pasteurized whole eggs, but they were expensive and tasted a little funny.


    There is a pasteurized egg product specially made for lifters that they sell at my gym, but I dont know much about it. Ask the guys at South Carolina Barbell and they can hook you up.

    www.southcarolinabarbell.com
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    Jan 12, 2012 3:01 AM GMT
    muscle atrophy begins as soon as 48 hours after activity. Since you are younger you may not lost muscle as fast, however.
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    Jan 12, 2012 3:05 AM GMT
    tddpt saidmuscle atrophy begins as soon as 48 hours after activity. Since you are younger you may not lost muscle as fast, however.


    48 hours? References or bullshit.
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    Jan 12, 2012 3:22 AM GMT
    Alpha_Muscle saidIn Men's Health magazine in 2011, there was reference to a study from Japan which determined that it takes six weeks of inactivity for you to lose any muscle mass, assuming your diet is adequate. They had participants do NO exercise for 6 weeks with no loss of mass.

    While you are recuperating, you should get plenty of rest, make sure that you are SUPER hydrated. That means you should buy some pedialyte (get the generic... same thing but much cheaper) and drink. I like the grape flavored pedialyte over ice. YOu will lose electrolytes due to the diarhhea and/or vomiting, so the pedialyte will replace that. (Remember... it is for babies so drink several bottles of it)

    When you are feeling better, keep your calories high. You may not want a high protein diet due to the difficulty digesting it, but dont worry... you wont eat enough to gain weight and if you do... eh.... fuck it... you can lose the weight. But you need the calories to make sure your immune system is working hard and that you dont lose mass.

    Good luck, Bro!! And dont worry about the gym.... it will be there waiting on you. Just get HEALTHY and your gains will come back super fast when you are able to train again!!

    (BTW, dont rush back to your training only to get sick again... be patient and pragmatic and let yourself heal)

    EDIT: dont buy Gatorade... it is actually a crappy source of electroltyes and full of shitty sugar... pedialyte is much better. That is why it is so expensive. ($5/bottle brand name, $2.5/bottle generic)


    I like this guy's advice!
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    Jan 12, 2012 4:22 AM GMT
    Cooked eggs are better anyway. The protein absorbs more efficiently.

    So, I hate to say it, but:

    ROCKY WAS WRONG.
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    Jan 12, 2012 4:58 AM GMT
    tddpt saidmuscle atrophy begins as soon as 48 hours after activity. Since you are younger you may not lost muscle as fast, however.


    This isn't true. That would mean that if you worked each bodypart less than every other day, you would never progress. My legs will atrophy 48 hours after I train them?

    In fact, the principle of DOMS would suggest that is false as well.