"Great After 50" - yeah they're hot, but....

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    Jun 22, 2008 11:22 AM GMT
    I think that idea of this is great. I have noticed something in the last year or so though that seems to be confirmed in this article.
    It is a dilemma for me. It seems that every guy that's over 50 and physically hot always seems to have the history of having worked out for decades. The implication is that, if you want to look good in your 50's (or later) start in your 30's at the latest.
    While it is literally inspiring to me to see guys like this in my age range, I often wonder if there are guys who started working out in their late 40's at best as I did, could ever look as good. I am not fishing for compliments with this, I'm talking about real examples.
    For myself, I started exercising at 48 to get into better shape and loose weight. (The weight loss worked as I lost 50 lbs and a sedentary partner to boot.)
    I still want to look good but I find getting abs they way I'd like seems extraordinarily difficult.(I'm realistic and I'm not expecting to look like a 30 year old.) I hoping that it's not going to take a decade before I reach the goal.
    Beyond diet tips and workout advice (as there's plenty here already), I'm curious to know if there's other guys here who have been successful at this given similar circumstances.
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    Jun 22, 2008 11:45 AM GMT
    I see it working for me already. I look at guys that I graduated high school with and they look years older than me. There face is aged and they have gained at least 20+ pounds. Not a muscle on there bodies.
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    Jun 22, 2008 2:17 PM GMT
    I can't comment on the after 50 thing in regards to working out and staying in shape, but I do have to add my 2 cents for whatever it is worth (probably just that...$0.02!).

    I sure am glad that the "great after 50's" are out there taking care of themselves. I find older men (by that I mean older than me, I am not putting you guys into a geriatric category) extremely attractive. I don't expect you guys to keep this up for me, but know that there are many of us who are fans of older, in shape men.

    Bgcat57 I know you said that you weren't fishing for compliments but I have to sling one your way. You are a great looking guy and keep up the good work. The time and energy you put into your workouts is much appreciated, if even from a distance.

    Cheers!
  • Timbales

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    Jun 22, 2008 2:24 PM GMT
    As Kylie said, "It's never too late". Sure, if you start later in life you may not have the body of an underwear model at 50, but you can definitely be healthier.
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    Jun 22, 2008 2:34 PM GMT
    You look great, Timbaroo, and as long as you can still fit in that SmartCar you must be doing something right :-)
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    Jun 22, 2008 2:42 PM GMT
    I can see that one can transform oneself in one's 50s. I am amazed with what my PT is doing with me.

    But a couple of those dudes in that article could use a good plastic surgeon, IMHO.
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    Jun 22, 2008 3:21 PM GMT
    I know exactly what you mean bgcat, I often wish I had started working out much earlier. It's only been in the past 6 or so months that I've gotten serious and now being 50, I realize that I'm not going to achieve the look of a 30 yr old or probably any of the featured over 50s. I do look at myself in comparison with many others my age (or younger) and feel that I'm on the right track.

    The abs issue is my biggest. I'm finding it really hard to get them to tighten up. I've lost weight, eating healthier but seems like it's that last spot to really change. Perhaps I'm thinking too much of that 30 yr old look. I just keep trying things I learn from on here and elsewhere and hope that something works for them!

    BTW, you do look great and put yourself up against guys your age and you look better than GREAT.
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    Jun 22, 2008 4:03 PM GMT
    Geez. Where's Chucky when you need him? The introductory remarks on that photo essay ask where the "fountain of youth" is.

    It's HRT/testosterone supplementation, of course.

    Whether these guys are doing that, I have no idea, but it is odd that an essay on maintaining muscle after 50 would not include mention of HRT. Maybe I missed it?
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    Jun 22, 2008 4:04 PM GMT
    there is so much more to being sexy than a "hot" bod. I am fine with an average healthy looking bod. There is also your skin and keeping that as healthy looking as possible. stop tanning people! even so there is your attitude and demeanor and just cultivating a look that works for you.

    I want to be physically fit and active as I get older, because I like the outdoors and want to maintain a quality of life.

    As far as problem areas i would not rule out corrective cosmetic surgery if it helps you feel better about yourself. Problem areas of fat can be handled this way. Also, I would not rule out hormonal manipulation (anti-aging therapy) if it can help you look and feel better.
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    Jun 22, 2008 4:07 PM GMT
    Huge applause to any guy working to stay in shape after 50 (or any age). Just keep thinking "diet and exercise" and don't put anything into your body that isn't good for it - think of it as a temple. Sure, it is harder to look good if you're just starting out - but don't ever let that stop you from your goals.

    I was a skinny kid who practically had to lean into the wind! In high school I had a water polo coach who helped me bulk up with weights and protein shakes. I stayed with working out and being healthy and will be 50 next year. Don't worry that you may not have started sooner with working out and eating right - that's ok.... you're here now - just do it!
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    Jun 22, 2008 4:08 PM GMT
    obscenewish saidIt's HRT/testosterone supplementation, of course.
    You must have posted that when I was typing my response. I think the bad rap certain people have given HRT has poisoned peoples minds and keep it from being talked about. I do know people that have been on a program like this for 8+ years that have benefitted a lot from it, it the way they look and feel.
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    Jun 22, 2008 4:22 PM GMT
    It's too bad PSBig Joey isn't on here no more. Great guy with a great story. He and his BF are body builders and trainers and have Not spent thier entire lives working out. Joey was actually quite out of shape into his 30s, if I remember correctly, before a health condition turned things around for him. He has mentioned HRT as well.
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    Jun 22, 2008 5:03 PM GMT
    Crimthann saidIt's too bad PSBig Joey isn't on here no more. Great guy with a great story. He and his BF are body builders and trainers and have Not spent thier entire lives working out. Joey was actually quite out of shape into his 30s, if I remember correctly, before a health condition turned things around for him. He has mentioned HRT as well.


    I miss PSBigJoey as well since he had personally given me a lot of good advice.

    I might add to the thread that I do want my body to look good too. I have no expectations of looking like a 30 year old but I want to improve. I would never consider cosmetic surgery and to OW's point, unless I have a medical condition that requires HRT, I wouldn't consider that either. The problem with HRT is that if your body is producing testosterone on it's own, adding it to your system will shut down your systems production. The last thing I want is all those side effects that come with the HRT since I'm not dealing with chemotherapy or any of the other conditions that medically require it.

    The other point is that there are clear differences between the body at 50 vs. 20. This is in addition to the differences from one man to another in metabolism, body type, and structural size. There isn't really a 'what works for a 20 year old, works for a 50 year old' particularly when you've only been working out for a few years.

    I'm not unrealistic. I don't think I'm a zero trying to become a 10. I think of myself as a 3 trying to become an 8. I think I'm a 6 now (in my own scale) and 8 seems soooo far away.

    eb925guy: I could not relate more to the abs situation.

    BTW, obscenewish, I sometimes miss Chucky's rants. As over the top as they could be, there was often some good information hidden in all the bravado and hubris. As far as the guys in the photostory are concerned with the lack of info regarding HRT, I'm reminded of the old Steve Martin line:

    "You can be a millionaire and never pay taxes. How? First, get a million dollars, then...."
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    Jun 22, 2008 5:21 PM GMT
    Caslon4000 saidI can see that one can transform oneself in one's 50s. I am amazed with what my PT is doing with me.

    But a couple of those dudes in that article could use a good plastic surgeon, IMHO.





    LOL, I was thinking the exact same thing. Who ever was picking out the examples was really not willing to look all that hard. Hell, there are guys right here on this site that put their 50's models to shame. Some of these models they picked, while in great shape for their age, are darn right scary looking. Personally, I find fit older guys extremely attractive, but older guys who are too overly worked out and vascular (like a body building steroid freak) are not attractive to me. At some point it starts looking freaky and unnatural. Fit and youthful is one thing, obsessed with holding onto your youth quite another. Just my opinion.
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    Jun 22, 2008 5:29 PM GMT
    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREI'm not unrealistic. I don't think I'm a zero trying to become a 10. I think of myself as a 3 trying to become an 8. I think I'm a 6 now (in my own scale) and 8 seems soooo far away.


    Haha, I'm curious what your scale is. I'm sorta from the middle of nowhere and I know here, you'd be an easy 10. (And I know you said you weren't looking for compliments but felt like I had to say it.)

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    Jun 22, 2008 7:00 PM GMT
    CaslonBut a couple of those dudes in that article could use a good plastic surgeon, IMHO.

    JockSnackSome of these models they picked, while in great shape for their age, are darn right scary looking.

    Jesus God, only in Gayville would you read something like this.

    I noticed, by the way, that three of these guys had major health challenges, which makes their appearance all the more amazing.
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    Jun 22, 2008 7:41 PM GMT
    Re: needing plastic surgery

    I don't see it. IMO, the guys in that article look great, just as they are.
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    Jun 23, 2008 6:57 AM GMT
    Some of them did look a mite rough, Mr. Banana. The 58 year old is a looker.
  • Laurence

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    Jun 23, 2008 8:31 AM GMT
    I think the guys in the article look great, though the first one could try smiling. No amount of working out is going to make you look good if you've got a miserable face.

    Loz
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    Jun 23, 2008 8:41 AM GMT
    obscenewish saidJesus God, only in Gayville would you read something like this.


    Welcome to Gayville, where our slogan is: "No insult should ever be suppressed, no matter how bitter."

    As to bgcat's original question:

    My experience has been that, for average genetics, without any "artificial hormonal assistance," it really does take a decade or more to get where you want to be. Dramatic gains come first, then it gets progressively more challenging as you get closer and closer to that goal. It's not clear whether this is due to the fact that we set the bar so high (e.g. we want to look like the cover of "Men's Fitness"), or that it's harder with age, or what. Probably both.

    One thing that's clear -- your natural testosterone levels are highest in your early 20s, so if you start lifting then, then you've got mother nature working with you. As you age, those natural levels progressively drop off -- on average, so you're swimming against a stronger current.

    K
  • josephmovie

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    Jun 23, 2008 8:57 AM GMT
    Those guys do look exceptional but do remember that these photographs are taken to flatter and are most likely digitally manipulated.

    If you want a more realistic barometer of what people your age look like go to the mall and wander around. You will feel better about yourself. So you don't have the abs of a twenty or thirty year old. Big deal. Most twenty or thirty year olds don't have them either!

    Stick with it though. I have trouble with the abs as well but small gains all add up!
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    Jun 24, 2008 3:49 AM GMT
    But why didn't they pick Obscenewish? He's 96!

    Moisturize!!!!
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    Jun 24, 2008 4:22 AM GMT
    For one Crimthann they probably hadn't had as much experience with OW as you've had icon_smile.gif)

    But really, I doubt that the guys haven't had some sort of enhancement. Not that I'm partiuclarly against that, but it takes work not to age like the marjority of the population, well that and going after whatever else is out there -- but if you have the time, money and discipline than why not?
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    Jun 24, 2008 5:47 AM GMT
    I think they look great too although they may have overdone it with the sunbeds IMHO.

    What's with the HRT thing, isn't that for menopausal women?
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    Jun 24, 2008 10:59 AM GMT
    Age is just a number I see people in their 60 and 70 that look like they are 40 and then again I see people in their 30's that look like they are 50 or 60. Working out, exercising, eating right is everyone's choice. You have to have determination and will power. Gaining muscle does not happen with one workout. I have trained a few friends and they would say to me," this is too much work, I can't do this. And what works for one person does not necessarily work for another person. We are all different and we need to recognize our differences.