Why is Miata a "gay car"?

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    Jan 15, 2012 6:37 AM GMT
    I watched Suburgatory and the gay guidance counselor came out to the school and said "I'm going to be driving a Miata now"

    Just curious where this stereotype came from.
  • OptimusMatt

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    Jan 15, 2012 6:46 AM GMT
    ...have you seen a miata?
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jan 15, 2012 6:58 AM GMT
    Stan904 said
    Why is Miata a "gay car"?



    Because no self-respecting straight man would be caught dead in one icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 15, 2012 7:02 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Stan904 said
    Why is Miata a "gay car"?



    Because no self-respecting straight man would be caught dead in one icon_lol.gif


    Except my former air force uncle, but that's because he's that badass.
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    Jan 15, 2012 7:04 AM GMT
    It's NOT

    from what i can tell, it is actually perpetuated not only by ignorant straight guys who read too much into what a person drives or what it looks like without looking past the sheetmetal to the mechanicals underneath, but also by gay guys alike.

    (I race a '97 Miata)

    There is no conclusive reason to call the car gay. The original 89-97 models (with the flip-up lights) are basically a modern evolution of the Lotus Elan from the 1960s.

    Lotus
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    Miata
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    The people who call the Miata gay are of the same ignorant group that, in the 60s would make fun of someone in a small british sportscar (yes, the Miata is by classical definition, a sportscar)


    Here are the facts most people are ignorant of when it comes to the miata.

    - "Miata" means "Reward" in Old High German
    - They are perfectly balanced, with a 50:50 weight ratio front to back and come with an aluminum hood. this translates into superbly neutral handling (you can make it do whatever the hell you want)
    -Even my '97 only makes 133hp but the car only weighs 2300lbs (the ferrari Enzo weighs 3000lbs)
    -IT IS REAR-WHEEL-DRIVE. For some reason, a large number of people i've run into think that the Miata is Front-wheel-drive
    -The miata has a four-wheel, double-wishbone suspension. Even on modern sportscars this often isn't used anymore in spite of its superiority over alternatives
    -An automatic transmission was "available" but rare due to its awful performance (and gas mileage). Almost all classic ('89-'97) Miatas are equipped with aluminum-cased 5-speed manuals
    -It can't POSSIBLY be a "gay car" or a "chick car" due to the shocking lack of a driver's side MAKEUP MIRROR! GASP!



    Also, any driver of a BMW Z3/Z4, Pontiac Solstice, Saturn Sky, Porsche Boxter/Cayman, Lexus SC, Toyota MR2 Spyder, Mercedes SLK, etc. owes the existance of their cars, in the American market at least, to the Mazda Miata. It is one of those things in life that can tell you something about a person by how they perceive it. The Miata is a car that will actually chase down a BMW M3 on a racetrack but many men for some reason see it as a girly-looking design. Most guys who think its a gay car have never driven ones. The guys who HAVE driven one and still think its gay...well...it just goes to show some people care WAY too much about how other people perceive them.
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    Jan 15, 2012 7:15 AM GMT
    In the 1999 movie "Go", Jay Mohr played a gay guy, and his boyfriend drove a yellow Miata.

    Specifically yellow Miatas were targeted as gay cars, and the idea later spread to any colour miatas were made in (an episode of Weeds depicts one of Nancy Botwin's associate drug dealers, Sanjay, a gay Indian, driving a red Miata).
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    Jan 15, 2012 7:17 AM GMT
    As an aside... when I was in high school (late 80s) I totally lusted after a Miata thinking it would be the ultimate pussy magnet (don't judge, I thought I was straight at the time lol).

    Dad put the kibosh on that, telling me he couldn't afford the insurance on that sort of car for me.
  • Pr0digy

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    Jan 15, 2012 7:18 AM GMT
    It's fairy small and it was referenced as "fierce" in an early commercial for it.. icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 15, 2012 7:21 AM GMT
    ironically that particular color, only offered for one year in 1992, is highly sought-after now. It's called Sunburst Yellow. Also ironically, to insure a classic one now with full $100k liability policy costs less than a slice-and-dice policy on a brand-new Honda.

    Also, drive one. You'll understand what they meant by "fierce"
  • Pr0digy

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    Jan 15, 2012 7:32 AM GMT
    Yeah.. my buddy has 2 Miatas. And he's gay ... teehee icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 15, 2012 7:35 AM GMT
    Pr0digy saidYeah.. my buddy has 2 Miatas. And he's gay ... teehee icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif


    I won't deny the car is friggen adorable, but there's alot more to it than cuteness (actually the cuteness award probably goes to the Nissan Figaro). I also know (personally) about thirty straight guys who own them, and alot of them have several (one or more of each generation NA, NB, NC) in their garages. We go out into the country on weekends and just haul ass all over the place. Just imagine a thunderous drone of about 30 of these little buggers coming around a hairpin turn at breakneck speeds. I'm trying to get my dad to buy one right now and he's considering it since the Lambo he was looking at is kind of pointless in New Orleans.
  • offshore

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    Jan 15, 2012 7:48 AM GMT
    Funny, because in the UK, a Jeep Wrangler/ pickup is a gay car - over compensation you see.

    Miata/ Eunos/ MX-5 are for people who actually LOVE driving.

    Going in a straight line in a SRT10 V8 isn't the be all and end all of driving. Yanks, do learn how to tackle a mountain pass icon_smile.gif.

    P.S Personally I'm more of a Grand Tourer guy, but I have respect for light weight sports car drivers.

    Anything but an automatic....
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    Jan 15, 2012 7:52 AM GMT
    offshore saidFunny, because in the UK, a Jeep Wrangler is a gay car - over compensation you see.

    Miata/ Eunos/ MX-5 are for people who actually LOVE driving.

    Going in a straight line in a SRT10 V8 isn't the be all and end all of driving. Yanks, do learn how to tackle a mountain pass icon_smile.gif.

    P.S Personally I'm more of a Grand Tourer guy, but I have respect for light weight sports car drivers.

    Anything but an automatic....



    THANK YOU.

    Personally, in terms of racing, i'm a rally freak. But i like GT as well. And where i'm from it is unfortunate but most people don't know how to actually tackle a pass or any sort of technical course. They know how to go in a straight line and that's it.

    PS: SRT10 has a V10
  • offshore

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    Jan 15, 2012 8:01 AM GMT
    RoadsterRacer87 said
    offshore saidFunny, because in the UK, a Jeep Wrangler is a gay car - over compensation you see.

    Miata/ Eunos/ MX-5 are for people who actually LOVE driving.

    Going in a straight line in a SRT10 V8 isn't the be all and end all of driving. Yanks, do learn how to tackle a mountain pass icon_smile.gif.

    P.S Personally I'm more of a Grand Tourer guy, but I have respect for light weight sports car drivers.

    Anything but an automatic....



    THANK YOU.

    Personally, in terms of racing, i'm a rally freak. But i like GT as well. And where i'm from it is unfortunate but most people don't know how to actually tackle a pass or any sort of technical course. They know how to go in a straight line and that's it.

    PS: SRT10 has a V10


    Hahah cheers for the correction, I meant to write SRT8 for V8.

    I appreciate a big V8 too under the right situation, I'm just a car nut. What I can;t stand is boring utilitarian cars (especially with an auto box)> A car needs to do more to get me from A to B to grab my attention.

    As for many US drivers can't tackle a nice winding road, I guess geography dictated that - Europe mountain pass is norm for many countries. But alas there are beautiful mountain roads in the US - parts of the I395, I80, and the pass that goes through Sequoya/ Kings Canyon Nat Park are all great fun to drive.

    Check this out:
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    Jan 15, 2012 8:38 AM GMT
    @offshore

    You are correct. Especially today, with the straight-as-an-arrow interstate highway system, the wonderful old county and state highways as well as the rural route system have become more and more forgotten. Taking River Road (guess what it runs along?) from New Orleans to Baton Rouge for example is a delightful way to spend a Sunday. It takes at least four hours as opposed to the 57 minutes on the I10 freeway but winds and moves with the land and can even delight with the occasional technical challenge of the odd twists and turns of the Mississippi River. I just did it last thursday and had a blast, especially since halfway there you get access to Baton Rouge's WBRH FM90.3 which churns out an uninterrupted stream of smooth, contempo jazz perfectly suited to motoring.



    Out east we have the Tail of The Dragon at Deal's Gap, which has a reputed 318 curves in a stretch of 11 miles. Other examples exist but there is an entire annual event called Miatas at the Gap that is held there each year at the end of July. But here in New Orleans, a city that was essentially raised out of swampland, nearly all roads are straight. To have any fun at all you have to leave the city. Another problem is kids are no longer taught how to read an actual MAP. Everybody assumes GPS or Google Maps will handle everything but shit happens and sometimes you need to find your own way home.
  • offshore

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    Jan 15, 2012 8:46 AM GMT
    Most people drive to get to a destination. It takes a motor head to enjoy the fun of driving.

    We Saab drivers have a saying: "Always take the longest road home."
    What a shame such a characterful car maker is no longer. Because too many out there only want a cheap shopping cart... But that's another story...
  • Beeftastic

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    Jan 15, 2012 8:52 AM GMT
    Here in San Francisco, the Miata was a mainstay of fashionable gay men. In fact, if you saw a man driving one, you could pretty much bet he was gay. And I saw very few women driving them. I still have a friend that drives one today icon_smile.gif
  • MikemikeMike

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    Jan 15, 2012 9:04 AM GMT
    There are a lot of gay cars according to my friend John, who has amazing gaydar and wrote the book on this.

    Miata is just one.
    VW Jetta in white
    Honda 2000S any color
    Jeep Wrangler usually in black
    Pontiac Solsltice
    Mini Cooper
    New Fiat, probably cause J-lo is pushing them.
    any BMW cheaper 2 seater

    He's usually right 90%+ of the time.icon_idea.gif
  • Jason_W

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    Jan 15, 2012 9:18 AM GMT
    RoadsterRacer87Also, drive one. You'll understand what they meant by "fierce"


    The S2000 is fierce/uncompromising. Miata/MX-5 much less so.

    While the handling is great, it simply doesn't have the traction required to take on the top end of the hatches (Megane Cup/Golf R for example) cross country, nor the grunt when it comes to the straights.

    Lovely cars though.
  • kew1

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    Jan 15, 2012 9:24 AM GMT
    The Honda S2000 was a pretty hard core car - I drove one of the early cars at a track day & everyone ended up facing backwards. If you lifted off during a bend (I had to - a spinning Exige in the way) the result was nearly uncontrollable oversteer.
    Much more fun the the 4wd TT , boring & heavy.Not as much fun as a Caterham 7 icon_biggrin.gif (2 of the other cars we used).
  • Beeftastic

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    Jan 15, 2012 9:28 AM GMT
    MikemikeMike saidThere are a lot of gay cars according to my friend John, who has amazing gaydar and wrote the book on this.

    Miata is just one.
    VW Jetta in white
    Honda 2000S any color
    Jeep Wrangler usually in black
    Pontiac Solsltice
    Mini Cooper
    New Fiat, probably cause J-lo is pushing them.
    any BMW cheaper 2 seater

    He's usually right 90%+ of the time.icon_idea.gif


    My god, you just described all the cars in Palm Springs! icon_smile.gif
  • Jason_W

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    Jan 15, 2012 9:29 AM GMT
    kew1 saidThe Honda S2000 was a pretty hard core car - I drove one of the early cars at a track day & everyone ended up facing backwards. If you lifted off during a bend (I had to - a spinning Exige in the way) the result was nearly uncontrollable oversteer.
    Much more fun the the 4wd TT , boring & heavy.Not as much fun as a Caterham 7 icon_biggrin.gif


    Thats why I have a Caterham.

    Also for any serious track driving you need a roll cage and welding in a proper one to a MX5 would just be wrong whereas a Caterham is built for that.
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    Jan 15, 2012 9:32 AM GMT
    Because it's a cute car with only above-average power. Need there be any other reason? No straight man, when yearning for a sports car says, "Dude, I'm gonna get a Miata". In that price range, they say, "I'm gonna get a Mustang". Even women don't say, "Girl, I'm saving up for a Miata". To my knowledge, there was never any "butch" version of the Miata made.
    Well, actually, the butch version was the Honda S2000. The difference between the two was that the S2000 came with a 240-hp engine, about 100 more hp than the Miata. And the Honda never had a rep as a gay man or girl's car that I've ever heard or seen and, to my recollection, I've never seen one driven by a woman.

    Alot of the two-seat sports/sporty-car convertibles in the $30k-$60k price range are viewed as gay-man's or women's cars; MB SLK, BMW Z4, Porsche Boxster (though about 50/50), Audi TT. Of course, if it's the high-performance version of these cars, that's a different story: SLK AMG, previously made M version of Z4, Boxster Spyder, TT RS Roadster (not sold in US).

    The only people I've seen driving Miatas are older gentlemen who look like college professors. Most appear to have the car as a weekend car.

    I think convertibles in general tend to have a feminine connection. I really noticed that since moving to the west coast in 2005. I drove a Nissan 350Z roadster. 90% of the time, the only other people I saw driving the same kind of car were women, which I didn't realize until i bought it (not that that would have changed my mind).

    Unless your drop-top is a Porsche 911, Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder, Aston Martin, Ferrari Spider, Chevy Corvette, or MB SLS Roadster, chances are the car you're driving is mostly driven by women.
  • melloyello

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    Jan 15, 2012 9:39 AM GMT
    Greg: My name is Greg, and, uh, I'm an alcoholic. One fateful night, I, uh, got behind the wheel of my brand new sports car, blind drunk. I was responsible for the death on an innocent, 8-year-old girl.
    Peter Griffin: What kind?
    Greg: What?
    Peter Griffin: What kind of car? You said you had a sports car. That's cool, but what kind?
    Greg: It was a Miata.
    Peter Griffin: Oh, come on! That's not a sports car. H-how does that even kill a kid? What-cha what-cha do, hit her over the head with it?
    Greg: That's a legitimate sports car!
    Peter Griffin: No. Next!
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    Jan 15, 2012 9:50 AM GMT
    There was a butcher miata. The 2004-05 mazdaspeed miata with its turbo-Intercooled four