You find out a guy barebacks with strangers and he's telling other people he doesn't.

  • Neurons

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    Jan 17, 2012 12:47 PM GMT
    What would you do? Because I feel this guy is putting other people at risk. I have his number and email. Confronted him about it, he lied about it. Got my best friend involved, we caught him, then he admitted it. This guy is putting people at risk!
  • Fable

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    Jan 17, 2012 1:09 PM GMT
    At the end of the day it's not your business. What could you really do anyway?
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    Jan 17, 2012 1:14 PM GMT
    Isn't that a crime now? Tell him you're reporting him to the police.
  • Neurons

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    Jan 17, 2012 1:27 PM GMT
    fable saidAt the end of the day it's not your business. What could you really do anyway?


    It's not my business, no. But people's lives could potentially be in danger. He could easily contract HIV and proceed to infect people.

    @Pure: I'll do that.
  • Koaa2

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    Jan 17, 2012 2:25 PM GMT
    That's why everyone should be insisting on a condom, no matter what they say. Almost daily there are instances of people putting others health at risk, for example McDonalds, and others, serving the poision that they do. What you going to do about it, warn everyone going into them? People smoking around others. It really is your own choice what you are going do with you own body. If people want to fuck without a condom, than they take the risk of getting HIV.
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    Jan 17, 2012 2:26 PM GMT
    Koaa2 saidThat's why everyone should be insisting on a condom, no matter what they say.


    This.
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    Jan 17, 2012 2:38 PM GMT
    TheKrisPandemic saidWhat would you do? Because I feel this guy is putting other people at risk. I have his number and email. Confronted him about it, he lied about it. Got my best friend involved, we caught him, then he admitted it. This guy is putting people at risk!


    Well, yes he is, and no he isn't. Everyone he sleeps with should already be automatically using a condom.
    You did the right thing by confronting him. Now he knows that others know.
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    Jan 17, 2012 2:38 PM GMT
    It's none of your business what other people do or don't do.
    It's your business to take care of yourself as you see fit.
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    Jan 17, 2012 2:44 PM GMT
    TheKrisPandemic saidWhat would you do? Because I feel this guy is putting other people at risk. I have his number and email. Confronted him about it, he lied about it. Got my best friend involved, we caught him, then he admitted it. This guy is putting people at risk!


    So you never say whether he is hiv+ and you are concerned that he is putting other people at risk. Well actually those people are putting themselves at risk. So the only problem that I see is wanting to be the nosey busybody who thinks what other people do in their bedrooms is your business. And unless you saw it firsthand, you don't know shit, so my advice is to not go running your mouth about things you don't know

    My 2 cents
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    Jan 17, 2012 2:51 PM GMT
    hah that's why I always use condoms no matter what... protect yourself icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 17, 2012 2:53 PM GMT
    Hey dudewithabeard, I can only answer to what Kris posted. He said,

    "we caught him, then he admitted it."

    I rather think that if Kris was wrong, the fellow would have continued to deny it.

    Again, like I said earlier, it's up to everyone else to use a condom, in which case he puts no one at risk. And for good measure, to be clearer, it's also up to everyone else to refuse him if he doesn't use one.

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    Jan 17, 2012 3:15 PM GMT
    meninlove said Hey dudewithabeard, I can only answer to what Kris posted. He said,

    "we caught him, then he admitted it."

    I rather think that if Kris was wrong, the fellow would have continued to deny it.

    Again, like I said earlier, it's up to everyone else to use a condom, in which case he puts no one at risk. And for good measure, to be clearer, it's also up to everyone else to refuse him if he doesn't use one.



    how exactly did they catch him? A covert sting operation where they used someone he didn't know as a decoy and then come running in as they were Fucking to catch him in the act of unprotected sex. Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me and still none of his business. And your last point was something I made, maybe he should be concerned about the people who he thinks they are being put at risk because they are also putting the other guy at risk as well. I wonder if the OP has ever sucked an unwrapped dick and if tells all of his partners that he might have herpes or gonorrhea.
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    Jan 17, 2012 6:23 PM GMT
    dude, I think you should ask the OP instead of deciding what happened.

    "A covert sting operation where they used someone he didn't know as a decoy and then come running in as they were Fucking to catch him in the act of unprotected sex."

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    Jan 17, 2012 6:28 PM GMT
    Putting people at risk of what? Does he have an STD or HIV or something?

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    Jan 17, 2012 6:35 PM GMT
    TheKrisPandemic saidThis guy is putting people at risk!



    Yes, but those people are also putting themselves at risk if they trust the words of a stranger and therefore do not use a condom. They are trusting that the stranger is not lying. They are trusting that the stranger even actually knows whether he is positive or not. No matter what a potential sexual partner tells you should make no difference on whether or not you wear a condom. Treat every sexual partner as if they are hiv+ and use protection. You have to be responsible for yourself.
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    Jan 17, 2012 6:41 PM GMT
    Iceblink saidYes, but those people are also putting themselves at risk if they trust the words of a stranger and therefore do not use a condom. They are trusting that the stranger is not lying. They are trusting that the stranger even actually knows whether he is positive or not. No matter what a potential sexual partner tells you should make no difference on whether or not you wear a condom. Treat every sexual partner as if they are hiv+ and use protection. You have to be responsible for yourself.


    This!

    The OP sounds like some kind of self-righteous wingnut.
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    Jan 17, 2012 6:50 PM GMT
    TheKrisPandemic saidWhat would you do? Because I feel this guy is putting other people at risk. I have his number and email. Confronted him about it, he lied about it. Got my best friend involved, we caught him, then he admitted it. This guy is putting people at risk!


    I think it's good you guys confronted him. Maybe if enough people do he will eventually start using a condom.
    But in the end of the day it's up to every man to decide for himself if he wants to fuck without a condom and put himself to risk, as many people already pointed out.

    I think you probably made your point across to the guy and unless he hooks up with your mate or something, I would let it go...
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    Jan 17, 2012 8:38 PM GMT
    If he's barebacking, has STD(s) (including HIV), and lies about his STD status when affirmatively asked by potential sex partners, yes perhaps you have a moral (but not legal) obligation. Ultimately, however, it is our responsibility alone--not someone else's--to protect ourselves from STDs.
  • Neurons

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    Jan 17, 2012 9:15 PM GMT
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    Iceblink saidYes, but those people are also putting themselves at risk if they trust the words of a stranger and therefore do not use a condom. They are trusting that the stranger is not lying. They are trusting that the stranger even actually knows whether he is positive or not. No matter what a potential sexual partner tells you should make no difference on whether or not you wear a condom. Treat every sexual partner as if they are hiv+ and use protection. You have to be responsible for yourself.


    This!

    The OP sounds like some kind of self-righteous wingnut.


    What's your issue? My boyfriend and I have a few gay friends and my good friend met this guy and they started hanging out. I'll call the guy D and my friend J. J asked this guy if he's clean, If he barebacks, and if he meets guys online. D says no. A third friend saw the two together and warned him that the guy is dirty.

    So my boyfriend, J, and I all made a separate Grindr accounting and started asking this guy questions. He said he wanted to bareback and he has a couple stuff on Craigslist finding some guys to "breed" him. We obviously called him out on it. It was concerning to me because this is obviously how people contract HIV. I've never been a hook up guy so I'm not too knowledgable in that department.
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    Jan 17, 2012 9:35 PM GMT
    TheKrisPandemic said

    What's your issue? My boyfriend and I have a few gay friends and my good friend met this guy and they started hanging out. I'll call the guy D and my friend J. J asked this guy if he's clean, If he barebacks, and if he meets guys online. D says no. A third friend saw the two together and warned him that the guy is dirty.

    So my boyfriend, J, and I all made a separate Grindr accounting and started asking this guy questions. He said he wanted to bareback and he has a couple stuff on Craigslist finding some guys to "breed" him. We obviously called him out on it. It was concerning to me because this is obviously how people contract HIV. I've never been a hook up guy so I'm not too knowledgable in that department.



    Yay, you found the witch.

    Still if D says he isn't "dirty" and J believes him then has sex with him, wouldn't D, be busted when he wants to have unprotected sex, if J and D hooked up?

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  • Neurons

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    Jan 17, 2012 9:41 PM GMT
    Claystation said
    TheKrisPandemic said

    What's your issue? My boyfriend and I have a few gay friends and my good friend met this guy and they started hanging out. I'll call the guy D and my friend J. J asked this guy if he's clean, If he barebacks, and if he meets guys online. D says no. A third friend saw the two together and warned him that the guy is dirty.

    So my boyfriend, J, and I all made a separate Grindr accounting and started asking this guy questions. He said he wanted to bareback and he has a couple stuff on Craigslist finding some guys to "breed" him. We obviously called him out on it. It was concerning to me because this is obviously how people contract HIV. I've never been a hook up guy so I'm not too knowledgable in that department.



    Yay, you found the witch.

    Still if D says he isn't "dirty" and J believes him then has sex with him, wouldn't D, be busted when he wants to have unprotected sex, if J and D hooked up?

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    Yeah! Thankfully J never did anything with him. I didn't make this thread in order to bring this guy to justice. I was just concerned and wondered what other people would do in this situation. Whether it be nothing or something. I'm not understanding why some guys are being twats.
  • Neurons

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    Jan 17, 2012 9:45 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    TheKrisPandemic saidWhat would you do? Because I feel this guy is putting other people at risk. I have his number and email. Confronted him about it, he lied about it. Got my best friend involved, we caught him, then he admitted it. This guy is putting people at risk!


    Well, yes he is, and no he isn't. Everyone he sleeps with should already be automatically using a condom.
    You did the right thing by confronting him. Now he knows that others know. [/quote

    Thank you!

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    TheKrisPandemic saidThis guy is putting people at risk!



    Yes, but those people are also putting themselves at risk if they trust the words of a stranger and therefore do not use a condom. They are trusting that the stranger is not lying. They are trusting that the stranger even actually knows whether he is positive or not. No matter what a potential sexual partner tells you should make no difference on whether or not you wear a condom. Treat every sexual partner as if they are hiv+ and use protection. You have to be responsible for yourself.


    Thanks, Ice!
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    Jan 17, 2012 10:19 PM GMT
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    fable saidAt the end of the day it's not your business. What could you really do anyway?


    It's not my business, no. But people's lives could potentially be in danger. He could easily contract HIV and proceed to infect people.

    @Pure: I'll do that.


    Dont get involved, people that he fucks should make sure they use a condom, it should be second nature. If they don't then it's their fault for not using one. It should be routine to use one regardless of your partners' habits. That way, it doesn't matter who lies about what, the important thing is YOU are protected.
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    Jan 17, 2012 10:42 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidEverybody is responsible for themselves. There is no law against barebacking and those that are barebacking with him know the risks.

    Actually that's not true. My partner overheard 2 young guys talking next to him at a local bar here. One asked the other if he used condoms for HIV protection. No, the other replied, I'm only 24, and HIV only affects guys over 35.

    My partner, who works with the HIV/AIDS community, interrupted them to say that was not a true statement. HIV can infect any one of any age, even the unborn.

    "What do you know, old man?" the one who'd made that claim snarled at my partner. "You'll be dead before I am."

    "Not if you believe HIV only affects those over 35. It's you who'll be dead long ahead of me." And the 2 guys left that part of the bar for another, likely not believing a thing my partner had said.

    So yeah, there are gays in our community who DON'T know the risks, or who forget them when drinking or on drugs. If they did know, maybe our Broward County wouldn't have the highest rate of new HIV infections in the US. It's clear somebody isn't getting the message.
  • Neurons

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    Jan 17, 2012 10:45 PM GMT
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    TheKrisPandemic said
    fable saidAt the end of the day it's not your business. What could you really do anyway?


    It's not my business, no. But people's lives could potentially be in danger. He could easily contract HIV and proceed to infect people.

    @Pure: I'll do that.


    Dont get involved, people that he fucks should make sure they use a condom, it should be second nature. If they don't then it's their fault for not using one. It should be routine to use one regardless of your partners' habits. That way, it doesn't matter who lies about what, the important thing is YOU are protected.


    Alright, I appreciate the response. It's just that it's something extremely wrong in my eyes. I remembered seeing in the paper that a guy was purposely infecting people with HIV for years before he was caught. It's really disgusting.