If you own an iphone, you have to listen to this.

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    Jan 18, 2012 2:35 AM GMT
    http://www.thisamericanlife.org/play_full.php?play=454

    It's a really good story about a man who went to an Apple factory in Shezhen, China. It is really deep and will probably change your mind about your iphone and give you a general idea of the people's lives who make our products.
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    Jan 18, 2012 2:38 AM GMT
    I hope you know it's not just apple that contracts these companies to make products.

    All phone manufacturers do.

    Hell every product you own is probably made in one of these "factories"

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    Jan 18, 2012 4:17 AM GMT
    Almost everything is manufactured by Foxconn these days. It's hard to avoid it sometimes. As far as mobile phones go.. HTC, Motorola, Sony, Nokia, and Samsung have factories in various parts of the world. So if you feel that strongly about it, you have choices.
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    Jan 18, 2012 7:51 PM GMT
    Apple also recently banned an app that portrayed this sort of thing as a satirical game:
    Apple Bans Phone Story Game That Exposes Seedy Side of Smartphone Creation
    Apple has removed an iPhone app called Phone Story — a darkly satirical mini-game collection that exposes the ugly side of smartphone production — from the App Store, perhaps after realizing that the subject matter hit a little close to home.
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    The game was approved by Apple (unlike the Android Market, every app that is submitted for release on iTunes is thoroughly checked and tested by the Cupertino gatekeeper) and hit the iPhone App Store on Sept. 9. But on Sept. 13, Phone Story was taken down and banned from sale.


    Usual Apple censorship and content banning..

    lilTanker saidI hope you know it's not just apple that contracts these companies to make products.
    All phone manufacturers do.
    Hell every product you own is probably made in one of these "factories"


    Maybe but it doesn't look good in contrast to how Apple markets itself.

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    Jan 19, 2012 2:50 AM GMT
    I have a hard time judging "hardships" in countries like China. The standard of what counts as normal in those kinds of countries is so much different than in the United States. We don't have sweatshops in the US because the very poorest among us wouldn't put up with it: our standard of living is too high, even for the very, very poorest.

    In China, though, the standard for tens of millions of people is Medieval levels of squalid, grinding poverty. What we in the West would call a "sweatshop" is a world of difference for the families of those who have the privilege of finding work there.
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    Jan 19, 2012 4:29 AM GMT
    Larkin saidI have a hard time judging "hardships" in countries like China. The standard of what counts as normal in those kinds of countries is so much different than in the United States. We don't have sweatshops in the US because the very poorest among us wouldn't put up with it: our standard of living is too high, even for the very, very poorest.

    In China, though, the standard for tens of millions of people is Medieval levels of squalid, grinding poverty. What we in the West would call a "sweatshop" is a world of difference for the families of those who have the privilege of finding work there.


    I agree. Apparently suicide threats are the norm there when you want to protest. US workers will just continue to be lazier and strike if they don't get that new coffee maker in the break room that their entitled too.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/01/12/chinese-foxconn-workers-threaten-mass-suicide-over-xbox-pay-dispute/
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    Jan 19, 2012 4:14 PM GMT
    SoloXCRacer said
    Larkin saidI have a hard time judging "hardships" in countries like China. The standard of what counts as normal in those kinds of countries is so much different than in the United States. We don't have sweatshops in the US because the very poorest among us wouldn't put up with it: our standard of living is too high, even for the very, very poorest.

    In China, though, the standard for tens of millions of people is Medieval levels of squalid, grinding poverty. What we in the West would call a "sweatshop" is a world of difference for the families of those who have the privilege of finding work there.


    I agree. Apparently suicide threats are the norm there when you want to protest. US workers will just continue to be lazier and strike if they don't get that new coffee maker in the break room that their entitled too.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/01/12/chinese-foxconn-workers-threaten-mass-suicide-over-xbox-pay-dispute/
    I threatened to buy a new coffee maker for the break room if they didn't get one that has no 2-hr auto shut-off. That annoys the fuck out of me. icon_lol.gif