Obama set to reject Keyston Oil Pipeline on Wed or Thurs.

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    Jan 18, 2012 5:43 PM GMT
    From NBC Politics:


    "We're expecting the pipeline to be rejected," the source said."

    "The Obama administration was poised on Wednesday to reject the Keystone crude oil pipeline, a decision that would be welcomed by environmental groups but inflame the domestic energy industry"



    Should he reject this pipeling ? After all it is known to be the filthiest of oils.

    Wouldn't we be better off if the same investment cost of this pipeling were instead used to improve other energy sources that are far less polluting? Why keep up the status quo when we know that the days of 'oil as king' are over and must be replaced?
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    Jan 18, 2012 7:09 PM GMT
    OOOPs !!!
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    Jan 19, 2012 5:47 AM GMT
    It's great to see President Obama take a stand for what he believes is right and is in keeping with what he believes in!

    Unlike Willard Romney who's only interested in doing what he thinks will get him elected and who only cares about amassing money and power.
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    Jan 19, 2012 6:11 AM GMT
    RickRick91 saidIt's great to see President Obama take a stand for what he believes is right and is in keeping with what he believes in!

    Unlike Willard Romney who's only interested in doing what he thinks will get him elected and who only cares about amassing money and power.


    That's fine, but let’s make sure that Barry Obama loses his job over that decision.
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    Jan 19, 2012 4:53 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    RickRick91 saidIt's great to see President Obama take a stand for what he believes is right and is in keeping with what he believes in!

    Unlike Willard Romney who's only interested in doing what he thinks will get him elected and who only cares about amassing money and power.


    That's fine, but let’s make sure that Barry Obama loses his job over that decision.




    Actually, my bet would be that Obama showing some spine these days will help his chances for re-election, The repubs put up another one of their sherades a while back only giving Obama a short time to make a decision about the pipeline. Smart Obama has better sense to make such a decision in a hurry because this is the most filthy, the worst possible polluting oil there is, and the proposed path of the pipeline presents a danger to a major watershed.



    GOOGLE those facts FreedomGeezer
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    Jan 19, 2012 5:21 PM GMT
    That's fine, but let’s make sure that Barry Obama loses his job over that decision.

    Yup, let's punish him for for making the right decision!
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    Jan 19, 2012 5:22 PM GMT
    RickRick91 saidIt's great to see President Obama take a stand for what he believes is right and is in keeping with what he believes in!



    It's the "What He Believes In" that has many Americans worried. The keystone project was a huge step forward in gaining the U.S. less dependence on foreign oil. I'm still starting to wonder if Obama is in cohoots with the mideast when it comes to our energy policy. Yet another administration that talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk when it comes to energy policy. Americans are really going to get caught with our pants down one day and gas will shoot to $5 a gallon or higher almost overnight.
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    Jan 19, 2012 5:48 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    RickRick91 saidIt's great to see President Obama take a stand for what he believes is right and is in keeping with what he believes in!



    It's the "What He Believes In" that has many Americans worried. The keystone project was a huge step forward in gaining the U.S. less dependence on foreign oil. I'm still starting to wonder if Obama is in cohoots with the mideast when it comes to our energy policy. Yet another administration that talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk when it comes to energy policy. Americans are really going to get caught with our pants down one day and gas will shoot to $5 a gallon or higher almost overnight.


    I could agree with everything else Obama does or says, which of course I don't, but he would lose my vote over Keystone.

    So every time the economy starts to boom, up goes oil prices thank to commodity speculators/traders. Since that’s international and nothing we can control or stop, the only thing we can control are available supplies.

    There are monster untapped reserves here in North America. The Canadian supplies are going to get consumed someplace in the world so how about right here in the USA and Canada? Oil prices were the trigger in 2007 and 2008 that caused the current crash as had happened as a result of oil shock 1 in 1973 (Yom Kippur war) and oil shock 2 in 1979 (the Iranian revolution) followed by very serious recessions. I'm not saying that the bubble wasn’t going to crash at some point anyway as happens about every seven or eight years for some reason.

    We’ll never have a relatively stable economy or healthy recovery until we get some stability in oil prices and some localized control in supply.
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    Jan 19, 2012 5:50 PM GMT
    tazzari saidThat's fine, but let’s make sure that Barry Obama loses his job over that decision.

    Yup, let's punish him for for making the right decision!


    Yep, let's punish him for for for for making a boneheaded decision.
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    Jan 19, 2012 5:56 PM GMT
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    tazzari saidThat's fine, but let’s make sure that Barry Obama loses his job over that decision.
    Yup, let's punish him for for making the right decision!


    How is this "the right decision?"




    realifedad saidThe repubs put up another one of their sherades a while back only giving Obama a short time to make a decision about the pipeline. Smart Obama has better sense to make such a decision in a hurry


    Fact #1: The State Department and Obama administration have been reviewing this for 3 years.



    realifedad saidthis is the most filthy, the worst possible polluting oil there is, and the proposed path of the pipeline presents a danger to a major watershed.


    Fact #2: The oil is going to be extracted by Canada whether it goes to us or not



    realifedad saidthe proposed path of the pipeline presents a danger to a major watershed.


    Fact #3: There are hundreds of thousands of miles of oil pipelines and thousands of oil / gasoline tanks already over the acquifer.



    Correct, we do CRE development on the top of that aquifer and there's plenty there already. We have a phase one or two done on every deal because the CRE lender requires it so I'm very well aware of what already there. Use technology to do it safely, but do it.

    Yes, I know, Yes, I'm aware of that, but NIMBYs cross over party lines anywhere and for any reason.