New Research Suggests Cell Phones Cause Massive Bee Deaths

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    Jan 18, 2012 11:32 PM GMT
    http://inhabitat.com/its-official-cell-phones-are-killing-bees/

    So FFX may be right and all wireless may one day have to be replaced by cable... the continued massive death of these insects, going on for a decade already, would otherwise endanger the world food supply

    On a positive note.. at least they finally FOUND a possible cause.. but how do we replace wireless with a greener tech?
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    Jan 18, 2012 11:39 PM GMT
    Yeah, no...

    http://ddr.nal.usda.gov/bitstream/10113/26475/1/IND43964490.pdf


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    Jan 19, 2012 12:00 AM GMT
    Haaretz saidYeah, no...

    http://ddr.nal.usda.gov/bitstream/10113/26475/1/IND43964490.pdf




    Well, let's hope so
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    Jan 19, 2012 12:06 AM GMT
    Haaretz saidYeah, no...

    http://ddr.nal.usda.gov/bitstream/10113/26475/1/IND43964490.pdf


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    Jan 19, 2012 12:23 AM GMT
    Who the hell gave bees cellphones? Flying while dialing or texting is suicide.
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    Jan 19, 2012 12:37 AM GMT
    Maybe they mean spelling bees, because people can't spell anymore with all this texting shit.
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    Jan 19, 2012 12:48 AM GMT
    How close do you have to be for them to be affected.
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    Jan 19, 2012 12:50 AM GMT
    I'm gonna play Angry Birds near a hive next time and see if it produces Dead Bees.
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    Jan 19, 2012 2:40 AM GMT
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1385907/Why-mobile-phone-ring-make-bees-buzz-Insects-infuriated-handset-signals.html
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    Jan 19, 2012 2:41 AM GMT
    These are older studies though, so dont know how the researchers feel about it now
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    Jan 19, 2012 2:44 AM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    Haaretz saidYeah, no...

    http://ddr.nal.usda.gov/bitstream/10113/26475/1/IND43964490.pdf


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    Jan 19, 2012 2:46 AM GMT
    Well I don't know about the cell phones, but being a rural resident with beekeepers nearby, there is a noticeable difference in the number of bees over the last ten or so years. Just a small insect, but with Hella major repercussions if they disappeared, because no bees = precious little food.
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    Jan 19, 2012 3:20 AM GMT
    recent ex-pest control guy here..

    there's compelling info about fly parasites relating to the ongoing honey bee Colony Collapse Disorder.

    http://www.npr.org/2012/01/07/144829259/collapsing-honey-bee-colonies-blame-the-parasites

    also in my own personal experience, there's still some gnarly (scientific term) pest control chemicals in use. I figure those products are part of the equation as well.

    one such product has Fipronil as it's active ingredient. Fipronil being an insect 'nerve agent.' Humans arent significantly impacted because we dont have the neurotransmitter in our brains that the Fipronil affects.

    any insect that contacts the chemical doesnt sense the product and then becomes a carrier of said chemical. Via that 'transfer effect' insects, such as ants or bees, introduce it into the colony or hive. if enough bugs have contacted the chemical and take it back to their buddies, the colony/hive will be dead in a matter of days.
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    Jan 19, 2012 3:31 AM GMT
    GreenHopper saidhttp://inhabitat.com/its-official-cell-phones-are-killing-bees/

    So FFX may be right and all wireless may one day have to be replaced by cable... the continued massive death of these insects, going on for a decade already, would otherwise endanger the world food supply

    On a positive note.. at least they finally FOUND a possible cause.. but how do we replace wireless with a greener tech?


    very interesting theory....I often wondered why I see so many dead bees on the ground....almost everywhere I go too
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    Jan 19, 2012 3:59 AM GMT
    If the honeybee goes extinct, humans will have only four years until we're all dead too.
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    Jan 19, 2012 4:37 AM GMT
    Scruffypup saidIf the honeybee goes extinct, humans will have only four years until we're all dead too.


    Hmmm...I wonder if Monsatan (Monsanto) has anything to do with this?
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    Jan 19, 2012 4:54 AM GMT
    Honey bees are not native to north america. Only 30% of our typical crops are pollinated by honey bees. There are plenty of native pollinators whose habitat could be improved.

    There's not a lot of cell phone coverage in the rural areas where bees are disappearing. There's also been a huge resurgence in urban bee keeping. The bees in cities, where cell phone coverage is near ubiquitous, are thriving AFAIK.

    This leads me to believe that problem for bees is really the same problem for mankind, which is that modern conventional industrial monoculture agriculture uses such toxic chemicals that no one can really live on that land. Whether it is the chemicals themselves, or that chemicals are reducing immunities to assorted mites and viruses, I don't think we know yet.

    If you want to help bees, plant a garden that has the most diverse flowers over the longest period of time. Avoid modern hybrid annual flowers, that are often bred to have no pollen.

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    Jan 19, 2012 5:34 AM GMT
    Well, don't hold the handset up to your head.

    Text. Quietly. Less network traffic radiation too. Trust me. I have mad cellphone science skills.

    Since cellphone users are determined to ruin my cardio at the gym with noise pollution while they yak away...I have bigger dreams than bees. I want bleeding from all orifices. icon_twisted.gificon_twisted.gificon_twisted.gif
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    Jan 19, 2012 5:39 AM GMT
    Shawnathan said
    Scruffypup saidIf the honeybee goes extinct, humans will have only four years until we're all dead too.


    ??
    Corn is wind pollinated, rice and wheat are self pollinated, so without honey bees we'd still have our staples.


    As a native of the corn belt, I "detassled" corn a few summers in my teens. My impression was that hybrid corn is still reproduced using cross pollenation from one row to four or five receiving rows.

    The receiving rows had the pollen tassels manually removed..

    (besides, there's corn products in *everything*. It pings my sinus allergies when I eat it.)
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    Jan 19, 2012 6:13 AM GMT
    http://www.israel21c.org/technology/bee-colony-vaccine

    That's from 2009.
    Just a few months ago, Monsanto bought Beeologics, the Israeli company which produced the vaccine.

    http://www.michiganbees.org/2011/09/monsanto-buys-remembee

    http://www.beeologics.com/remebee.asp
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    Jan 19, 2012 6:23 AM GMT
    Shawnathan said
    Scruffypup saidIf the honeybee goes extinct, humans will have only four years until we're all dead too.


    ??
    Corn is wind pollinated, rice and wheat are self pollinated, so without honey bees we'd still have our staples.



    Crops that do not require insect pollinaion are the very ones that the GM corporations want us to eat more of: wheat, rice and corn. The more land that's given over to them, the less there is for insects. The more those crops are farmed, the more pesticides and herbicides are spread around: the more insects suffer. Now that systemic insecticides are used (Clothianidin) on crops that attract insects but do not necessarily rely on insect pollination (Canola/OSR) insects (including bees) are at risk everywhere. Bayer and Monsanto know this, but care only for their profits.
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    Jan 19, 2012 6:38 AM GMT
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    Jan 19, 2012 6:45 AM GMT
    This thread is making me crave a bagel with butter and honey....mmmmm...bagelicious....
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    Jan 19, 2012 6:47 AM GMT
    Did someone say that the staples would get us by?

    Im sorry for finding that ridiculous.. but the staples are the exact crops which caused human health quality to decline drastically since the inception of agriculture.. not to mention they have caused an increase in world hunger, not a decrease.. from most everything I have read... those staples are only carbs.. they are useless for everything else you need to eat
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    Jan 19, 2012 6:47 AM GMT
    Shawnathan said

    Yes, the cross pollination is done by the wind. This is why when you grow corn in your garden you can have missing kernels if you don't plant several rows.
    Well, that explains it. Thanks.