What's up with jammers?

  • gwuinsf

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    Jul 26, 2007 10:44 PM GMT
    Considering getting back into swimming as I think about doing my first Triathlon. Got the cycling and running covered, but been years since I've done any serious swimming.

    My only access to a pool is my gym at work and I noticed that all the (straight) guys that swim there swim in jammers.

    Is there some aquatic efficiency I'm missing? Or is this because of modesty? And if it is modesty, do they need to be so long?

    I tried a pair on and I felt silly. Don't they feel heavy in the water?
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    Jul 26, 2007 11:45 PM GMT
    I believe the theory is that jammers keep the quads/hamstrings compressed, thus staving off fatigue. A good suit should be very lightweight and repel water. I like them for everything but breaststroke.

    I also have a full pants style suit I wear for fly and free. I tried a farmer john style and didn't like it.
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    Jul 26, 2007 11:49 PM GMT
    speedos do the job.

    Altho the first time i tried on my tri-wet suit in the open sea i wanted to swim away forever, The body position it put me in and the ease of swimming in it was just fantastic
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    Jul 27, 2007 12:39 AM GMT
    I've got the same question about jammers. I mean, seriously, for all but the elite swimmers, I can't imagine that they make that much difference. There does seem to be this issue about modesty, but the jammers I have (I wear them in the gym sometimes when it's cold) are really not very modest. In fact, you can still see an excellent outline of my dick. And after all, it's the same as a short speedo - just longer legs. And what's wrong with younger guys these days, not wanting to see legs? Geez! I mean really - any kind of speedo type suit shows all the goodies anyway. Unless you wear a surfing type of suit, and that's just ridiculous for serious swimming. I don't know about this crazy world - we have billboard size pics everywhere of Phelps practically naked, but then we fear a little glimpse of leg. Insane!
    And just in case you're wondering - I'm sticking to my nice, short (and totally revealing) authentic speedos. Shy boys best look the other way! :-)
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    Jul 27, 2007 12:49 AM GMT
    They are probably wearing them because of the extra coverage. A lot of guys freak out about speedos. In reality I think you get better support with a speedo and you expose more with jammers. Elite swimmers wear jammers or body suits when they race, so they may be trying to emulate them, but those racing suits are made out of special material and can only be worn a limited number of times. There are definitely fashion cycles in workout swimwear, and judging from the younger elite swimmers on my club team, the trend is away from baggy,full of holes practice suits and back to regular speedos. Wear what you feel comfortable in.
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    Jul 27, 2007 5:27 AM GMT
    Welcome to North America where when you go to the beach a guy wearing a speedo is laughed at and that translates to a lot of recreational swimmers. Guys are afraid of being laughed at in the speedo.

    You can not swim properly with board shorts on so jammers is the next best thing.

    The only time you see speedos is the hard core swimmers who have swam competitively or people who are comfortable with thier body.

    Lets face it speedos are cheaper than the jammers. Its just that in North America speedos are laughed at by the average joe on the beach.
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    Jul 27, 2007 5:50 AM GMT
    Yes, wouldn't wear the speedos to the beach, but do wear them when I go swimming, so much better! I will say though that I felt completely naked the first time I wore them, and have had friends who would get into the pool and then remove their board shorts the reveal the speedos underneath. Not sure I'm that comfortable with my body, but well there's plenty of the 60 - 70 year old crowd at my pool, so what the bleep and who cares.
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    Jul 27, 2007 6:14 AM GMT
    North Americans are such prudes.
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    Jul 27, 2007 6:26 AM GMT
    Maybe, but we are your bastard spawn, redheadguy, and those traits that you so dislike are often there in the original mix you guys exported here, yes maybe an ugly reflection but still a reflection of your own anglo-saxon mindset.
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    Jul 27, 2007 6:41 AM GMT
    True. We started it all. I will go and say some hail marys or something.
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    Jul 27, 2007 9:16 AM GMT
    I had to wear a speedo when I was on the Varsity team back in high shcool. My now Ex best friend was the team captain used to wear jammers and then bought one of thoes shark skin suits. Jammers actually help cut through the water better than a speedo from what many of my coaches have said. i dont think it really makes that big of a difference but whatever. I use speedos underneath my boardies just for that extra drag.
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    Jul 27, 2007 10:50 AM GMT
    personally i love to see a guy in speedos and for swimming i can't imagine wearing anything else.

    there definitely is a 'modesty' backlash going on. younger guys seem terrified of being seen naked or anything that shows the outline of their dicks. at my gym in the changing room about 90% of guys either wear their underwear into the individual showers, so they can't be seen naked or wrestle with a towel around them to take their underwear off. it's hysterical.

    when i was a kid at school we were openly encouraged to get naked in the changing rooms and shower together, partly for hygiene's sake but also as a healthy way of learning about the human body. apparently this doesn't happen now. teachers being terrified of paedophillia claims etc. it makes me die to see the straight boys furtively eyeing up eachother's dicks in the gym changing rooms.

    but also i think this covering up thing has got something to do with women constantly going on about how they hate mens' 'ugly bits!' poor things. i can't imaging how they cope in the bedroom. how does the human race survive? i think straight men have finally given in to this in this metrosexual age.

    still us gay boys will put them right!!!
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    Jul 27, 2007 11:25 AM GMT
    i get really pissed off when any gay guy finds out that i'm a swimmer and his intial reaction is "oo you must look hot in your speedo"

    My answer usually is Get Fucked, i've been wearing speedo's since i was 8, they are FUNCTION NOT FASHION apparrel. I couldn't give a shite what your wearing in the pool, as long as you stay out of the lane if your going to be pissing about. I have no problem using good swimmers in the same lane to push up my split times.

    Would you play football without football boots on? Or go cycling for 100k without a set of well padded shorts on?

    I was taking to a friend of mine who swam for a big team here when he was younger and at the time there was a MASSIVE scandel over child molestation within his club in particular and he later found out his coach. All the team started wearing 3 or 4 pairs of speedos and in a unknown way it caught on all around the country, i used to wear 3 pairs becuase they were all worn, with the newest pair on the bottom, the rest added drag force.

    I remember being teased on holiday in America when i was at the pool because i was wearing my speedos. All the little kids giggle that i was wearing my 'pants'.

    Who cares. As for Jammers and Shark Skins, there is very little evidence that they make a huge difference, in fact to make a difference you have to be very very good.

    And have you ever seen the intial size of these suits, i have a few elite swimmer mates that contort themselves into the tiniset of shark skin suits for races.

    Wear speedos, do your set, ignore the slacked jawed googlers, they'll not be getting as fit as you.
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    Jul 27, 2007 11:39 AM GMT
    oh and another thing i just remembered (all be it from looking at a profile with a guy in his speedos)

    Has anyone else realise that after a 60-90miute pool session, in cold water, that it doesn't matter what you wear, the shrinkage basically can't be helped. the body pulls everything in to keep them warm and all the blood and hormones are all in your legs and shoulders, which at that stage are like slabs of concrete.

    If your serious about getting fit throught swim training, the guys shrivelled peeper in the lane next too shouldn't really matter.
  • gwuinsf

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    Jul 27, 2007 2:54 PM GMT
    Thanks guys! Sticking with my tried and true Speedos.

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    Jul 28, 2007 10:08 AM GMT
    I don't care what the guy in the lane next to me is wearing. the mear fact that he is swimming and if he has a swimmers build has gotta be totally hot in and of itself.

    Ive seen how small thoes sharkskin suits are and yeah it takes like an hour or so just to get in to one of thoes. Ive never worn one. I stick to speedos or jammers.
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    Aug 06, 2007 11:17 PM GMT
    great comments from everybody about speedos.

    personally, i don't give a damn whether people like seeing me in my speedo or not. like one guy said, they're for a function, not fashion. i wouldn't play soccer (football) in pajamas, and i wouldn't go skiing without proper equipment. speedos are proper equipment for swimming.

    but i am really curious, and saddened, that the younger set is so very worried about being seen in a speedo. i guess the comment about all the fear and persecution around pedophiles may be part of the cause. that subject certainly never came up when i was a kid, so we never really thought about it.

    and i don't know about you guys, but i agree - jammers are probably more revealing than short speedos. and i have to wear a singlet when i compete in my olympic lifting meets, and those really leave nothing to the imagination. i do get a little self-conscious with those around my coach (a woman), but whatever. it's a required garment for the sport. (and yes, if you want to see me in my singlet, i have pics).
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    Aug 06, 2007 11:36 PM GMT
    I've seen a couple of guys training in jammers that have pockets sewn into the legs. They open during forward motion to create a lot of extra drag. It looks like a lot of punishment.
    It must feel great to switch back to a regular suit after that! Otherwise, I've hardly ever seen anyone in jammers.
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    Aug 06, 2007 11:55 PM GMT
    Drag jammers? That's so cool! Way better than my conventional drag suit (kicking in heels is the pits!). Next time you see the guys working out find out where they bought the suits, or if they made them.
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    Sep 25, 2007 2:39 PM GMT
    I wear both jammers and speedo type suits for swimming. Personally for endurance training I prefer speedos. However the jammers (the Japanese designed ones with alot of color) are very good looking :)
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    Sep 25, 2007 3:23 PM GMT
    Guess I won't ever pass the gay right answers test. Jammers rule. I would never wear a speedo or spandex biker tights.
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    Sep 25, 2007 3:56 PM GMT
    OBVIOUSLY... i wear speedos!
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    Nov 30, 2007 8:55 PM GMT
    Wow, glad i don't live somewhere that people are so concerned about social persecution over wearing proper swimwear to... swim! Do 2500m in a pair of board shorts 4 times a week and tell me how the back of your legs feels after that! In Australia, and the rest of the world outside North America, people wear speedos for function and grow up with a healthier self-image from being comfortable in them. There isn't a taboo around them! Anyone that cares about that is a victim. Just go swim!
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    Dec 27, 2007 6:09 PM GMT
    I think jammers are simply speedos for American sensibilities.

    I find jammers uncomfortable and do not offer a lot of support. I wear a jammer in colder water but wear a speedo underneath.
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    Dec 29, 2007 3:08 AM GMT
    I wear speedos most of the time for working out in the pool. I found some speedo-like suits at this place on line called swimoutlet.com. They had a suit that has been quite adequate for under $10! The jammers were $30. I bought three.

    Frank