MODERN FAMILY


  • Jan 19, 2012 3:04 PM GMT
    Does anyone despise this show as much as I do?
    I find that it perpetuates the stereotype that if you are gay you have to be flamers..... even if you have a kid.

    My sisters are more masculine than they are.
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    Jan 19, 2012 3:57 PM GMT
    I think they're pretty realistic of many gay people.

    And the truth is that you just don't like "those kind" of gays.
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    Jan 19, 2012 4:01 PM GMT
    I like the show--if you like less stereotypical characters you might appreciate "Happy Endings".
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    Jan 19, 2012 4:17 PM GMT
    Nope. I think your revulsion of the show and its two gay characters says a lot more about how uncomfortable you are with your own homosexuality than anything else.

    The entire premise of the show - a light comedy marking the ups and downs not just of a family, but of a modern family - goes a long way towards solidifying support for gay rights among the vast hetero audience. I like the fact that the the Pritchett clan has a gay couple, but I also like the fact that the family includes some ethnic diversity and that many of the bonds are non-traditional.

    Cam and Mitchell accurately portray a fair number of gay couples out there....professional, educated, happily domestic and in love. Cam is intentionally written as the comic foil in the duo, just as the other father figure Phil Dunphy is characterized as a bit of a buffoon. Can you imagine a straight guy taking umbrage with the fact that Phil's character is always made to look like a loveable loser?

    The scenes where the young kids casually and easily acknowledge their two uncles' gayness solidifies in the eyes of the viewers that their bond is normal and now an accepted part of American life. Even the fact that Jay Pritchett, the older family patriarch, completely accepts and loves both his gay son and the son's partner clearly indicates that times have changed and the viewer is meant to accept this.

    You might not find Cam and Mitchell to be representative of your personality, but they are fairly true to form for many gay couples.
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    Jan 19, 2012 4:20 PM GMT
    osakarob saidNope. I think your revulsion of the show and its two gay characters says a lot more about how uncomfortable you are with your own homosexuality than anything else.

    The entire premise of the show - a light comedy marking the ups and downs not just of a family, but of a modern family - goes along way towards solidifying support for gay rights among the vast hetero audience. I like the fact that the the Pritchett clan has a gay couple, but I also like the fact that the family includes some ethnic diversity and that many of the bonds are non-traditional.

    Cam and Mitchell accurately portray a fair number of gay couples out there....professional, educated, happily domestic and in love. Cam is intentionally written as the comic foil in the duo, just as the other father figure Phil Dunphy is characterized as a bit of a buffoon. Can you imagine a straight guy taking umbrage with the fact that Phil's character is always made to look like a loveable loser?

    The scenes where the young kids casually and easily acknowledge their two uncles' gayness solidifies in the eyes of the viewers that their bond is normal and now an accepted part of American life. Even the fact that Jay Pritchett, the older family patriarch, completely accepts and loves both his gay son and the son's partner clearly indicates that times have changed and the viewer is meant to accept this.

    You might not find Cam and Mitchell to be representative of your personality, but they are fairly true to form for many gay couples.


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    Jan 19, 2012 4:22 PM GMT
    osakarob saidNope. I think your revulsion of the show and its two gay characters says a lot more about how uncomfortable you are with your own homosexuality than anything else.

    The entire premise of the show - a light comedy marking the ups and downs not just of a family, but of a modern family - goes along way towards solidifying support for gay rights among the vast hetero audience. I like the fact that the the Pritchett clan has a gay couple, but I also like the fact that the family includes some ethnic diversity and that many of the bonds are non-traditional.

    Cam and Mitchell accurately portray a fair number of gay couples out there....professional, educated, happily domestic and in love. Cam is intentionally written as the comic foil in the duo, just as the other father figure Phil Dunphy is characterized as a bit of a buffoon. Can you imagine a straight guy taking umbrage with the fact that Phil's character is always made to look like a loveable loser?

    The scenes where the young kids casually and easily acknowledge their two uncles' gayness solidifies in the eyes of the viewers that their bond is normal and now an accepted part of American life. Even the fact that Jay Pritchett, the older family patriarch, completely accepts and loves both his gay son and the son's partner clearly indicates that times have changed and the viewer is meant to accept this.

    You might not find Cam and Mitchell to be representative of your personality, but they are fairly true to form for many gay couples.
    I have to admit that I felt the same way as the OP here when this subject came up a while back in another forum. I think your explanation makes a lot of sense and does highlight some very positive points from the show. As someone previously noted, this show makes fun of multiple groups: the Latinos, the soccer moms and the gays. Equal fun and equal humor but the bottom line is that it shows that gay guys can be in mainstream society performing just like any other couple on the street. Thanks for your well written comment.
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    Jan 19, 2012 4:27 PM GMT
    osakarob saidNope. I think your revulsion of the show and its two gay characters says a lot more about how uncomfortable you are with your own homosexuality than anything else.

    The entire premise of the show - a light comedy marking the ups and downs not just of a family, but of a modern family - goes along way towards solidifying support for gay rights among the vast hetero audience. I like the fact that the the Pritchett clan has a gay couple, but I also like the fact that the family includes some ethnic diversity and that many of the bonds are non-traditional.

    Cam and Mitchell accurately portray a fair number of gay couples out there....professional, educated, happily domestic and in love. Cam is intentionally written as the comic foil in the duo, just as the other father figure Phil Dunphy is characterized as a bit of a buffoon. Can you imagine a straight guy taking umbrage with the fact that Phil's character is always made to look like a loveable loser?

    The scenes where the young kids casually and easily acknowledge their two uncles' gayness solidifies in the eyes of the viewers that their bond is normal and now an accepted part of American life. Even the fact that Jay Pritchett, the older family patriarch, completely accepts and loves both his gay son and the son's partner clearly indicates that times have changed and the viewer is meant to accept this.

    You might not find Cam and Mitchell to be representative of your personality, but they are fairly true to form for many gay couples.


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  • Jan 19, 2012 4:34 PM GMT
    endo saidI think they're pretty realistic of many gay people.

    And the truth is that you just don't like "those kind" of gays.


    You got that right.. to me they act like two heterosexual woman
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    Jan 19, 2012 4:35 PM GMT
    Cam is an interesting mix of stereotypes and stereotype-busters

    Yes, he's prone to histrionics, but he was also the fill-in drummer for Dylan's band, scared off some bullies, and "Can throw a dodgeball through a sheet of plywood".

    Stay tuned for Happy Endings right afterwards for a non-stereotypical gay schlub.
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    Jan 19, 2012 4:39 PM GMT
    There isn't a single character on this show who should be taken completely seriously, something which I think last night highlighted. There's a super neurotic type A soccer mom, her dopey husband, a hysterical Latina, the machismoish father, and the stereotypical gays.

    Instead of focusing on the negative, focus on the fact that they portray the gay couple in a completely functional loving relationship, which is completely accepted by all around them. That's definitely not the normal portrayal of gays in the media.
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    Jan 19, 2012 4:42 PM GMT
    It does perpetuate stereotypes, but not just for gays. Its not like gays are being singled out. What's awesome is that everyone in the extended family accepts, loves and supports one another. The gay characters, along with the other characters, are likeable. And Cameron, the big flamer, has more balls than any of the other male characters. He's the guy most likely to jump to the defence of a family member before anyone else.

    Like the OP I am uncomfortable with how far the gay-typing goes in some scenes, but on the whole the show is pretty progressive. I think it does far more for promoting equality than Will and Grace. The problem with W&G is that besides perpetuating stereotypes, the characters were too self-absorbed to be likeable or admirable. Who wants that representing us?

  • Jan 19, 2012 4:56 PM GMT
    Nivek saidIt does perpetuate stereotypes, but not just for gays. Its not like gays are being singled out. What's awesome is that everyone in the extended family accepts, loves and supports one another. The gay characters, along with the other characters, are likeable. And Cameron, the big flamer, has more balls than any of the other male characters. He's the guy most likely to jump to the defence of a family member before anyone else.

    Like the OP I am uncomfortable with how far the gay-typing goes in some scenes, but on the whole the show is pretty progressive. I think it does far more for promoting equality than Will and Grace. The problem with W&G is that besides perpetuating stereotypes, the characters were too self-absorbed to be likeable or admirable. Who wants that representing us?


    I have not seen anything in the US that does not perpetuate a stereotype of
    how a gay man is or should be... either they are sex crazed bar flies i.e queer as folk or whiney bitches ie. will and grace, this show .. six feet under, etc.

    The only character that I could relate to is Aaron in Emmerdale, which is broadcast in the UK.


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    Jan 19, 2012 4:59 PM GMT
    osakarob saidNope. I think your revulsion of the show and its two gay characters says a lot more about how uncomfortable you are with your own homosexuality than anything else.

    The entire premise of the show - a light comedy marking the ups and downs not just of a family, but of a modern family - goes along way towards solidifying support for gay rights among the vast hetero audience. I like the fact that the the Pritchett clan has a gay couple, but I also like the fact that the family includes some ethnic diversity and that many of the bonds are non-traditional.

    Cam and Mitchell accurately portray a fair number of gay couples out there....professional, educated, happily domestic and in love. Cam is intentionally written as the comic foil in the duo, just as the other father figure Phil Dunphy is characterized as a bit of a buffoon. Can you imagine a straight guy taking umbrage with the fact that Phil's character is always made to look like a loveable loser?

    The scenes where the young kids casually and easily acknowledge their two uncles' gayness solidifies in the eyes of the viewers that their bond is normal and now an accepted part of American life. Even the fact that Jay Pritchett, the older family patriarch, completely accepts and loves both his gay son and the son's partner clearly indicates that times have changed and the viewer is meant to accept this.

    You might not find Cam and Mitchell to be representative of your personality, but they are fairly true to form for many gay couples.


    Well said. In many of the episodes, Modern Family addresses in a subtle but very clever way the stereotypes surrounding gay men.

    PS. Like it or not, many gay men are effeminate. Big fucking deal. What's the problem with that?
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    Jan 19, 2012 5:01 PM GMT
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    Nivek saidIt does perpetuate stereotypes, but not just for gays. Its not like gays are being singled out. What's awesome is that everyone in the extended family accepts, loves and supports one another. The gay characters, along with the other characters, are likeable. And Cameron, the big flamer, has more balls than any of the other male characters. He's the guy most likely to jump to the defence of a family member before anyone else.

    Like the OP I am uncomfortable with how far the gay-typing goes in some scenes, but on the whole the show is pretty progressive. I think it does far more for promoting equality than Will and Grace. The problem with W&G is that besides perpetuating stereotypes, the characters were too self-absorbed to be likeable or admirable. Who wants that representing us?


    I have not seen anything in the US that does not perpetuate a stereotype of
    how a gay man is or should be... either they are sex crazed bar flies i.e queer as folk or whiney bitches ie. will and grace, this show .. six feet under, etc.

    The only character that I could relate to is Aaron in Emmerdale, which is broadcast in the UK.




    Have you watched Happy Endings or Brothers and Sisters? I agree there aren't characters who are just incidentally gay without their sexuality being kind of a focus, but I believe that will continue to change. John Goodman "played gay" on Normal, Ohio but it didn't last very long.
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    Jan 19, 2012 5:01 PM GMT
    I'm sorry, I thoroughly enjoy Modern Family!

    It's soo funny, how can you not laugh!? Also, it has Al Bundy!!!

    But, you shouldn't take it so seriously.
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    Jan 19, 2012 5:06 PM GMT
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    Nivek saidIt does perpetuate stereotypes, but not just for gays. Its not like gays are being singled out. What's awesome is that everyone in the extended family accepts, loves and supports one another. The gay characters, along with the other characters, are likeable. And Cameron, the big flamer, has more balls than any of the other male characters. He's the guy most likely to jump to the defence of a family member before anyone else.

    Like the OP I am uncomfortable with how far the gay-typing goes in some scenes, but on the whole the show is pretty progressive. I think it does far more for promoting equality than Will and Grace. The problem with W&G is that besides perpetuating stereotypes, the characters were too self-absorbed to be likeable or admirable. Who wants that representing us?


    I have not seen anything in the US that does not perpetuate a stereotype of
    how a gay man is or should be... either they are sex crazed bar flies i.e queer as folk or whiney bitches ie. will and grace, this show .. six feet under, etc.

    The only character that I could relate to is Aaron in Emmerdale, which is broadcast in the UK.


    [What about BrokeBack Mountain? Those 2 guys were not stereo typical gays
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    Jan 19, 2012 5:09 PM GMT
    I love that show.
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    Jan 19, 2012 5:11 PM GMT
    Pr0digy saidI'm sorry, I thoroughly enjoy Modern Family!

    It's soo funny, how can you not laugh!? Also, it has Ted Bundy!!!

    But, you shouldn't take it so seriously.


    Al Bundy. A show with Ted Bundy probably shouldn't be as funny...icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 19, 2012 5:13 PM GMT
    funbud8 said[quote][cite]outdoorsmuscleguy said[/cite]
    Nivek saidIt does perpetuate stereotypes, but not just for gays. Its not like gays are being singled out. What's awesome is that everyone in the extended family accepts, loves and supports one another. The gay characters, along with the other characters, are likeable. And Cameron, the big flamer, has more balls than any of the other male characters. He's the guy most likely to jump to the defence of a family member before anyone else.

    Like the OP I am uncomfortable with how far the gay-typing goes in some scenes, but on the whole the show is pretty progressive. I think it does far more for promoting equality than Will and Grace. The problem with W&G is that besides perpetuating stereotypes, the characters were too self-absorbed to be likeable or admirable. Who wants that representing us?


    I have not seen anything in the US that does not perpetuate a stereotype of
    how a gay man is or should be... either they are sex crazed bar flies i.e queer as folk or whiney bitches ie. will and grace, this show .. six feet under, etc.

    The only character that I could relate to is Aaron in Emmerdale, which is broadcast in the UK.


    [What about BrokeBack Mountain? Those 2 guys were not stereo typical gays


    That isn't quite true about Will and Grace. Of course Jack was off the wall, but Will was pretty "straight-acting."

    Check the Gay Couple episode of That 70s Show. The gay couple (Peter and Greg from Brady Bunch LMAO) moved in next door to Red and Kitty - there was nothing flaming about them.

    Red had his reservations, but ended up liking them because they were football fans.

    Unfortunately, when they came over to watch Green Bay vs. Vikings, the gay couple "came out" as Vikings fans. When Red heard that, he freaked - "GET OUT OF MY HOUSE, YOU DEGENERATES!"

    I love Red, you dumbasses.
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    Jan 19, 2012 5:25 PM GMT
    Ooops.. dunno why I was thinking about killers. But, my mind wanders icon_smile.gif) thanks for the catch


    yeah... "Oh Al!" sounds much better
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    Jan 19, 2012 5:32 PM GMT
    I find it to be a great show that is very true to the culture and that the two guys are not super flamers, yes it is easy to tell but at least they act like guys and dress like guys. Plus they happen to have some pretty butch qualities at times which does not fit the stereotypically mold.

  • Jan 19, 2012 5:57 PM GMT
    funbud8 said[quote][cite]outdoorsmuscleguy said[/cite]
    Nivek saidIt does perpetuate stereotypes, but not just for gays. Its not like gays are being singled out. What's awesome is that everyone in the extended family accepts, loves and supports one another. The gay characters, along with the other characters, are likeable. And Cameron, the big flamer, has more balls than any of the other male characters. He's the guy most likely to jump to the defence of a family member before anyone else.

    Like the OP I am uncomfortable with how far the gay-typing goes in some scenes, but on the whole the show is pretty progressive. I think it does far more for promoting equality than Will and Grace. The problem with W&G is that besides perpetuating stereotypes, the characters were too self-absorbed to be likeable or admirable. Who wants that representing us?


    I have not seen anything in the US that does not perpetuate a stereotype of
    how a gay man is or should be... either they are sex crazed bar flies i.e queer as folk or whiney bitches ie. will and grace, this show .. six feet under, etc.

    The only character that I could relate to is Aaron in Emmerdale, which is broadcast in the UK.


    [What about BrokeBack Mountain? Those 2 guys were not stereo typical gays


    yeah lets see a tv show with broke back mt type guys.

    true I can't stand effeminate guys.

    They are just like straight woman ... yuk

  • Jan 19, 2012 5:59 PM GMT
    TheCelticFury saidI find it to be a great show that is very true to the culture and that the two guys are not super flamers, yes it is easy to tell but at least they act like guys and dress like guys. Plus they happen to have some pretty butch qualities at times which does not fit the stereotypically mold.



    what butch qualities do they have? .... they act like soccer moms .... whiney whiney bitches lol

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    Jan 19, 2012 6:06 PM GMT
    Why chastise straight people who tell us and hate us for being who we are and then do the same to gay men who are just being who they are? icon_neutral.gif
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    Jan 19, 2012 6:33 PM GMT
    osakarob saidNope. I think your revulsion of the show and its two gay characters says a lot more about how uncomfortable you are with your own homosexuality than anything else.

    The entire premise of the show - a light comedy marking the ups and downs not just of a family, but of a modern family - goes along way towards solidifying support for gay rights among the vast hetero audience. I like the fact that the the Pritchett clan has a gay couple, but I also like the fact that the family includes some ethnic diversity and that many of the bonds are non-traditional.

    Cam and Mitchell accurately portray a fair number of gay couples out there....professional, educated, happily domestic and in love. Cam is intentionally written as the comic foil in the duo, just as the other father figure Phil Dunphy is characterized as a bit of a buffoon. Can you imagine a straight guy taking umbrage with the fact that Phil's character is always made to look like a loveable loser?

    The scenes where the young kids casually and easily acknowledge their two uncles' gayness solidifies in the eyes of the viewers that their bond is normal and now an accepted part of American life. Even the fact that Jay Pritchett, the older family patriarch, completely accepts and loves both his gay son and the son's partner clearly indicates that times have changed and the viewer is meant to accept this.

    You might not find Cam and Mitchell to be representative of your personality, but they are fairly true to form for many gay couples.


    I could not have explained it better. The best part about the show is how genuine every character is on that show. I honestly think its one of the best written comedies since friends.