NJ Governor Chris Christie proposes removing all non-violent drug offenders from prison

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    Jan 19, 2012 5:43 PM GMT
    The upside - I'm sure it's also cheaper. Now if only drugs could be legalized. The irony as the piece points out is that Christie may end up doing more for the issues liberals care about than any liberal governor has done.

    http://blog.nj.com/njv_tom_moran/2012/01/moran_focus_on_overhaul_of_dru.html

    "As long as they have not violently victimized society, everyone deserves a second chance, because no life is disposable," he said.

    "I am not satisfied to have this merely as a pilot project," the governor said. "I am calling for a transformation of the way we deal with drug abuse and incarceration in every corner of New Jersey."

    Gov. Tough Guy, as it turns out, is not afraid to show some heart for the downtrodden. [..]

    The change in strategy on the drug war is the big one. New Jersey is holding nearly 7,000 non-violent drug offenders in its state prisons today, and countless more in its jails. Over time, this creates an army of convicts, most of them black and Latino, who have criminal records that almost ensure they will be economic cripples for life.

    That is probably the worst thing New Jersey does to its poor population. If Christie is able to reverse course on this, and if he really funds effective drug treatment programs, he will have done more for New Jersey’s poor than Jon Corzine or McGreevey ever did.

    Add to this his education plans, especially tenure reform. If he succeeds, and New Jersey is able to get rid of bad teachers, no one will benefit more than poor kids in cities. The same goes for charters schools. And his voucher plan is limited to poor kids in failing districts — rich white kids need not apply.
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    Jan 19, 2012 5:46 PM GMT
    Any step towards de-criminalization is a good one.
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    Jan 19, 2012 6:04 PM GMT
    I agree with Christy on this. Why have around 1 out of every 100 Americans in prison? There has to be a more effective way.
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    Jan 19, 2012 6:06 PM GMT
    I agree with Christie on this but think riddler overstates Fatso's policies.
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    Jan 19, 2012 6:25 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidI agree with Christie on this but think riddler overstates Fatso's policies.


    You simply CANNOT help it can you?
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    Jan 19, 2012 6:28 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidI agree with Christie on this but think riddler overstates Fatso's policies.


    You simply CANNOT help it can you?


    Gov Krispy Kreme is not shy bout telling it like it is with his jersey style politics. He deserves the same bluntness in return and then some.
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    Jan 19, 2012 6:30 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said
    Christian73 saidI agree with Christie on this but think riddler overstates Fatso's policies.


    You simply CANNOT help it can you?


    Gov Krispy Kreme is not shy bout telling it like it is with his jersey style politics. He deserves the same bluntness in return and then some.


    It's governor Chris Christie btw.



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    Jan 19, 2012 6:32 PM GMT
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    catfish5 said
    freedomisntfree said
    Christian73 saidI agree with Christie on this but think riddler overstates Fatso's policies.


    You simply CANNOT help it can you?


    Gov Krispy Kreme is not shy bout telling it like it is with his jersey style politics. He deserves the same bluntness in return and then some.


    It's governor Chris Christie btw.





    Also known as Gov Fatass, the ultimate GOP Fat Cat
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    Jan 19, 2012 6:38 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    freedomisntfree said
    catfish5 said
    freedomisntfree said
    Christian73 saidI agree with Christie on this but think riddler overstates Fatso's policies.


    You simply CANNOT help it can you?


    Gov Krispy Kreme is not shy bout telling it like it is with his jersey style politics. He deserves the same bluntness in return and then some.


    It's governor Chris Christie btw.





    Also known as Gov Fatass, the ultimate GOP Fat Cat


    With the emphasis on fat.

    I also find it amusing that someone who thinks we should bomb Iran, likely killing thousands of civilians and starting another war that his party will refuse to pay for further indebting out country, is offended by "name calling." icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 19, 2012 6:57 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
    catfish5 said
    freedomisntfree said
    catfish5 said
    freedomisntfree said
    Christian73 saidI agree with Christie on this but think riddler overstates Fatso's policies.


    You simply CANNOT help it can you?


    Gov Krispy Kreme is not shy bout telling it like it is with his jersey style politics. He deserves the same bluntness in return and then some.


    It's governor Chris Christie btw.





    Also known as Gov Fatass, the ultimate GOP Fat Cat


    With the emphasis on fat.

    I also find it amusing that someone who thinks we should bomb Iran, likely killing thousands of civilians and starting another war that his party will refuse to pay for further indebting out country, is offended by "name calling." icon_lol.gif


    Aim correctly.

    We're not after all of Iran, and you know that, don’t you? We're after certain research and production capabilities. No different than what Israel did in Iraq about 30 years and Syria around a decade ago.
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    Jan 19, 2012 9:45 PM GMT
    It would seem that at least this is part of his State of the State that has strong bipartisan support.

    http://www.njherald.com/story/16541938/lawmakers-praise-christies-drug-treatment-idea

    While encouragement from Christie's Republican allies might be expected, former Democratic Gov. James McGreevey -- one of several former governors in attendance Tuesday -- told the New Jersey Herald afterward that the governor was "bold" in seeking to expand state-mandated drug treatment.

    McGreevey, who resigned in 2004 after acknowledging he is gay, said he "didn't have the awareness" to pursue an additional state role in drug treatment while serving as governor.

    "We're blessed to have a governor who has that awareness," said McGreevey, who currently serves as a counselor to prison inmates.

    Ed Selby, executive director of the Sussex County Democrats, said he liked the proposal.

    "That's a program that I would imagine will get strong bipartisan support," said Selby, who did not attend the speech.
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    Jan 19, 2012 10:33 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidWith the emphasis on fat.


    Incidentally, the reality is that increasingly more Americans are fat. I hope Democrats continue to denigrate him on this issue because it will backfire.
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    Jan 19, 2012 11:07 PM GMT
    LMAO!

    I don't know if Chris Christie is too fat to get elected president - but he's definitely too GROSS!

    His offensiveness extends beyond just his obesity!
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    Jan 19, 2012 11:20 PM GMT
    It is a trend that has been discussed ad nauseam in the Republican Governor's Conference. I look for such efforts to increase.
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    Jan 19, 2012 11:22 PM GMT
    The only thing that needs to be said about Chris Christie



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    Jan 20, 2012 12:00 AM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidThe only thing that needs to be said about Chris Christie





    I don't see why that's unreasonable. New Jersey already spends considerably more per student than most states even after any cuts. Further look at practically any government leader and where they send their kids.
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    Jan 20, 2012 3:58 AM GMT
    riddler78 saidThe upside - I'm sure it's also cheaper. Now if only drugs could be legalized. The irony as the piece points out is that Christie may end up doing more for the issues liberals care about than any liberal governor has done.

    http://blog.nj.com/njv_tom_moran/2012/01/moran_focus_on_overhaul_of_dru.html

    "As long as they have not violently victimized society, everyone deserves a second chance, because no life is disposable," he said.

    "I am not satisfied to have this merely as a pilot project," the governor said. "I am calling for a transformation of the way we deal with drug abuse and incarceration in every corner of New Jersey."

    Gov. Tough Guy, as it turns out, is not afraid to show some heart for the downtrodden. [..]

    The change in strategy on the drug war is the big one. New Jersey is holding nearly 7,000 non-violent drug offenders in its state prisons today, and countless more in its jails. Over time, this creates an army of convicts, most of them black and Latino, who have criminal records that almost ensure they will be economic cripples for life.

    That is probably the worst thing New Jersey does to its poor population. If Christie is able to reverse course on this, and if he really funds effective drug treatment programs, he will have done more for New Jersey’s poor than Jon Corzine or McGreevey ever did.

    Add to this his education plans, especially tenure reform. If he succeeds, and New Jersey is able to get rid of bad teachers, no one will benefit more than poor kids in cities. The same goes for charters schools. And his voucher plan is limited to poor kids in failing districts — rich white kids need not apply.


    This is excellent and Christie should get a lot of credit for this. Maybe he can use his influence to move others in his party on this issue. I have to wonder why more Dems aren't taking the same position.
    The resources our society throws away on the "war on drugs" could definitely be better spent. And the real violent criminals would be kept behind bars longer if the prisons weren't full of harmless dopers.

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    Jan 20, 2012 4:25 AM GMT
    Bless you Riddler !!! We agreed again !!!
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    Jan 20, 2012 4:38 AM GMT
    I think Christie has a lot of great ideas and his bluntness is much needed in this Country...people are too afraid to make anyone "uncomfortable" anymore.
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    Jan 20, 2012 6:37 AM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidThe only thing that needs to be said about Chris Christie





    Thanks for reinforcing one of the most honest answers a politician has given in a long time. Below is even better. Thank John Corzine for disappearing Billions.
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    Jan 20, 2012 7:46 AM GMT
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    riddler78 saidThe upside - I'm sure it's also cheaper. Now if only drugs could be legalized. The irony as the piece points out is that Christie may end up doing more for the issues liberals care about than any liberal governor has done.

    http://blog.nj.com/njv_tom_moran/2012/01/moran_focus_on_overhaul_of_dru.html

    "As long as they have not violently victimized society, everyone deserves a second chance, because no life is disposable," he said.

    "I am not satisfied to have this merely as a pilot project," the governor said. "I am calling for a transformation of the way we deal with drug abuse and incarceration in every corner of New Jersey."

    Gov. Tough Guy, as it turns out, is not afraid to show some heart for the downtrodden. [..]

    The change in strategy on the drug war is the big one. New Jersey is holding nearly 7,000 non-violent drug offenders in its state prisons today, and countless more in its jails. Over time, this creates an army of convicts, most of them black and Latino, who have criminal records that almost ensure they will be economic cripples for life.

    That is probably the worst thing New Jersey does to its poor population. If Christie is able to reverse course on this, and if he really funds effective drug treatment programs, he will have done more for New Jersey’s poor than Jon Corzine or McGreevey ever did.

    Add to this his education plans, especially tenure reform. If he succeeds, and New Jersey is able to get rid of bad teachers, no one will benefit more than poor kids in cities. The same goes for charters schools. And his voucher plan is limited to poor kids in failing districts — rich white kids need not apply.


    This is excellent and Christie should get a lot of credit for this. Maybe he can use his influence to move others in his party on this issue. I have to wonder why more Dems aren't taking the same position.
    The resources our society throws away on the "war on drugs" could definitely be better spent. And the real violent criminals would be kept behind bars longer if the prisons weren't full of harmless dopers.



    It's absolutely nuts having 1/100th of our population in prison. Yeah, I very much support him on this.

    http://youtu.be/wxh-FfElY0M
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    Jan 20, 2012 7:53 AM GMT
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    DoomsDayAlpaca saidThe only thing that needs to be said about Chris Christie





    Thanks for reinforcing one of the most honest answers a politician has given in a long time. Below is even better. Thank John Corzine for disappearing Billions.


    I can not wait until this guy runs for POTUS, hopefully in 2016.