GRR ARGH! It's "try to" not "try and". Why does no one understand this?

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    Jan 20, 2012 2:11 AM GMT

    I'm going to try and get there by 2:00pm. = WRONG
    I'm going to try to get there by 2:00pm. = CORRECT











    P.S. This was not inspired by anyone here, nothing personal.
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    Jan 20, 2012 2:18 AM GMT
    Some people don't like people with poor grammar, but no one likes a grammar nazi.
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    Jan 20, 2012 2:22 AM GMT
    At least you understand it. icon_razz.gif

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    Jan 20, 2012 2:22 AM GMT
    Ariodante saidSome people don't like people with poor grammar, but no one likes a grammar nazi.


    Im stealing this quote...
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    Jan 20, 2012 2:24 AM GMT
    Ariodante saidSome people don't like people with poor grammar, but no one likes a grammar nazi.


    I tinted you red because you are WRONG! I like a grammar nazi. A grammar nazi can jizz all over me and I'll just put my hand up and heil for more.

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    Jan 20, 2012 2:51 AM GMT


    We don't say "going and arrive at 2:00pm", we say "going to arrive at 2:00pm".

    If you will try and arrive. It means you will be trying and also arriving. This also means you can arrive and try. "I will arrive and try at 2:00pm." Nonsense.
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    Jan 20, 2012 3:21 AM GMT
    Haha, grammar nazis will never win because language will always continue to change. Today's corruptions will become tomorrow's new standards. That's simply how it goes because that's how's it always been.
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    Jan 20, 2012 3:27 AM GMT
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    pocketnico saidHaha, grammar nazis will never win because language will always continue to change. Today's corruptions will become tomorrow's new standards. That's simply how it goes because that's how's it always been.

    No doubt...just wait until Skinny here's someone say they're going to "take a shit". He's gonna flip out!! icon_lol.gif


    icon_neutral.gif I took a shit a couple hours ago. Took it right to the toilet and shat it out shittingly.
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    Jan 20, 2012 3:30 AM GMT
    If we were to get picky, I would even say that this sentence, "I'm going to try to get there by 2:00pm," is rather wordy. I think it sounds better to say, "I'll try to get there by 2:00pm." **raspberry**
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    Jan 20, 2012 3:59 AM GMT
    I am going to try and do better at this........wait, I mean I am got to try to do better at this because I wouldnt want to try and upset anyone icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 20, 2012 4:08 AM GMT
    SkinnyBitch said
    I'm going to try and get there by 2:00pm. = WRONG
    I'm going to try to get there by 2:00pm. = CORRECT
    P.S. This was not inspired by anyone here, nothing personal.

    I'm going to try, and get there by 2:00pm. = ACCEPTABLE
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    Jan 20, 2012 4:12 AM GMT
    pocketnico saidIf we were to get picky, I would even say that this sentence, "I'm going to try to get there by 2:00pm," is rather wordy. I think it sounds better to say, "I'll try to get there by 2:00pm." **raspberry**

    Wordy is not in grammar Nazi terrirory. But "going to" and "will" are different tenses and not quite equivalent.

    Claystation saidI am going to try and do better at this........wait, I mean I am got to try to do better at this because I wouldnt want to try and upset anyone icon_biggrin.gif


    Now you're just being silly! Watch out or I'll tickle you.
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    Jan 20, 2012 4:14 AM GMT
    xrichx said
    SkinnyBitch said
    I'm going to try, and get there by 2:00pm. = ACCEPTABLE
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    'Fraid not, chummmmmmmmmmmmm....p.

    Unless you're saying "I'm going to try (to get off work early), and get there by 2:00pm."
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    Jan 20, 2012 4:17 AM GMT
    SkinnyBitch said
    pocketnico saidIf we were to get picky, I would even say that this sentence, "I'm going to try to get there by 2:00pm," is rather wordy. I think it sounds better to say, "I'll try to get there by 2:00pm." **raspberry**

    Wordy is not in grammar Nazi terrirory. But "going to" and "will" are different tenses and not quite equivalent.


    It's always better to go with fewer words when you can. I'd say the difference between "going to" and "will" is so subtle and gray when referring to a future event. Many languages don't even make a distinction :-p

    I am an out and proud descriptivist in grammar. I can draw you all sorts of tree diagrams to show you that the prescriptivist approach to syntax is unnecessary and pointless in most cases icon_twisted.gif

    The point of grammar is to express efficiently what a speaker wants to say. It's a matter of meeting the needs of a linguistic community, not being sophisticated or perfect. As a community evolves and changes, so do their linguistic needs.
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    Jan 20, 2012 4:21 AM GMT
    SkinnyBitch said

    Now you're just being silly! Watch out or I'll tickle you.


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    Jan 20, 2012 4:28 AM GMT
    Chaax saidAt least you understand it. icon_razz.gif
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    Jan 20, 2012 4:29 AM GMT
    SkinnyBitch said
    xrichx said
    SkinnyBitch said
    I'm going to try, and get there by 2:00pm. = ACCEPTABLE
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    'Fraid not, chummmmmmmmmmmmm....p.

    Unless you're saying "I'm going to try (to get off work early), and get there by 2:00pm."
    Exactly. The (to get off work early) is implied. This isn't really an issue. It's not like people speak the King's English in their everyday lives. It's part of the North American dialect/bastardization of the English language. icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 20, 2012 4:31 AM GMT
    North American English is not any kind of bastardization of the language. It simply has changed over time like any other language. Besides, the Brits, Kiwis, Aussies, Irish, and South Africans make plenty of grammatical errors of their own.
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    Jan 20, 2012 4:39 AM GMT
    pocketnico said


    It's always better to go with fewer words when you can. I'd say the difference between "going to" and "will" is so subtle and gray when referring to a future event. Many languages don't even make a distinction :-p

    I am an out and proud descriptivist in grammar. I can draw you all sorts of tree diagrams to show you that the prescriptivist approach to syntax is unnecessary and pointless in most cases icon_twisted.gif

    The point of grammar is to express efficiently what a speaker wants to say. It's a matter of meeting the needs of a linguistic community, not being sophisticated or perfect. As a community evolves and changes, so do their linguistic needs.


    Hah, you think that I think that I'm sophisticated? I put wine in a ziplock and drank it with a straw. I'm just trying to get the word out. What bugs me is when writers... WRITERS... make these stupid errors. They are supposed to be trained in this, yet they publish text that is grammatically incorrect and makes no sense. Editors sign off on it too. Boggles my mind.

    And Clay, until you have physical arms that can stop me, I'll be tickling your junk until I'm good and done with it!
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    Jan 20, 2012 4:42 AM GMT
    pocketnico saidNorth American English is not any kind of bastardization of the language. It simply has changed over time like any other language. Besides, the Brits, Kiwis, Aussies, Irish, and South Africans make plenty of grammatical errors of their own.


    Don't even get me started on "innit". icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 20, 2012 4:43 AM GMT
    SkinnyBitch said

    And Clay, until you have physical arms that can stop me, I'll be tickling your junk until I'm good and done with it!


    I'll try and stop you......wait I mean, I will try to stop you, because I want to try and make things a little interesting for the both of us icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 20, 2012 4:44 AM GMT
    pocketnico saidNorth American English is not any kind of bastardization of the language. It simply has changed over time like any other language. Besides, the Brits, Kiwis, Aussies, Irish, and South Africans make plenty of grammatical errors of their own.


    Don't even get me started on "innit". icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 20, 2012 4:47 AM GMT
    English is an evolving language. English is not the same as it was 500 years ago, it won't be the same 500 years from now.
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    Jan 20, 2012 4:47 AM GMT
    Claystation said
    SkinnyBitch said

    And Clay, until you have physical arms that can stop me, I'll be tickling your junk until I'm good and done with it!


    I'll try and stop you......wait I mean, I will try to stop you, because I want to try and make things a little interesting for the both of us icon_biggrin.gif


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    Ah say, ah say, ah do believe he's hitting on me. Fun! Fun! Fun! Fun! Looking forward to the weekend!


    But I think you meant to say, "I want to try to make things a little interesting", right?.

    I blew it didn't I?
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    Jan 20, 2012 4:50 AM GMT
    I highly recommend this little book about the misconceptions of English, especially in the United States. It's a short and easy read.

    http://www.amazon.com/Language-Myths-Laurie-Bauer/dp/0140260234/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327034789&sr=8-1