Another car thread. Warning: Superficial post...but it's just a question, don't get all butt hurt and vindictive and call me names, post unwarranted links, or be malicious or I will have this thread deleted....

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    Jan 20, 2012 7:54 AM GMT
    Okay, now that I got that out the way...I just have a little question:

    Why is it that majority of 20s to mid 40s gay guys I come across who have cars usually don't have a fancy, flashy cars?

    Before I continue, I understand that having a Mercedes or Jaguar or Audi or whatever other top of the line vehicle does not make the person. And in addition, many of people who own said cars can very possibly be spending their whole paycheck on said car as well. Basically making them a broke ass showoff with a nice car. I know (there's a BMW in my neighborhood who's temporary plates expired in November!)

    But it just makes me wonder sometimes, why don't I see more of us driving top of the line cars? I'm not saying that I never meet anyone who does, I've met several who do. But they are generally the older, previously married types.

    Now, this may be a regional thing as well because when I lived in Miami, I met guys with Corvettes, Mustangs, Range Rovers and they couldn't wait to pick me up and show off their rides. I was riding in all the newest cars that came out. When I rode in the new Cadillac STS back in 2005, I was ecstatic LOL.

    And it's fun to ride around with a guy who has a car nicer than mine for a change LOL. I rode down South Beach Miami with the top down in Corvettes and Mustangs. The other night, I was riding in the 2012 Mustang and we passed by a gay bar here in Denver, and as they were waving for a taxi they made the 'ooo honey look at that car face' and started waving us to stop LOL.

    Now, I drive a 10 year old Nissan. It's not top of the line, but it's the top of the line in Nissan class. However, I drove 2 beat up cars in my life and held on to them til the end so I'm not suggesting people trash their cars just to look uppity.

    Maybe it's just my inner Florida roots that make me feel that riding in a fancy car just makes me all giggity LOL. But I always see so many people in Denver driving hot sports cars, but hardly ever meet gay guys who do! It's like the ones driving those cars are married, 2 income families or something icon_eek.gif



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    Jan 20, 2012 7:55 AM GMT
    Maybe guys of that age group simply don't have the money for those kinds of cars or don't care to have one?
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    Jan 20, 2012 8:05 AM GMT
    pocketnico saidMaybe guys of that age group simply don't have the money for those kinds of cars or don't care to have one?


    Well even the guys who are a little older seem to not have it (or want it). There's been a few guys I've come across that I've had a better shape car than they had.

    It's like some guys don't even seem to care.. It's like, I know you can trade that in and put a down on a better car. Or even sell it. You have a full time job, steady income...why not? And thing is, you don't even have to get into payments. I've seen Jaguars and Lexus on sale on craigslist for under $6,000 and I'm considering getting one this year.

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    Jan 20, 2012 8:10 AM GMT
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    pocketnico saidMaybe guys of that age group simply don't have the money for those kinds of cars or don't care to have one?


    Well even the guys who are a little older seem to not have it (or want it). There's been a few guys I've come across that I've had a better shape car than they had.

    It's like here, they don't care.. It's like, I know you can trade that in and put a down on a better car. You have a full time job, steady income...why not?


    I guess it simply depends on their budget and priorities. I'm only 26 years old. What kind of salary do you expect the typical 20-something to take home, eh? I definitely won't be making enough anytime soon to afford a luxury vehicle.

    Then you also have to take location into consideration. The DC metro area is not car/driver friendly. It's really a hassle to drive anywhere in the area, though I suppose you could always take your wheels out for a spin OUT of the area.

    But I guess in the end I just not into cars like some people. I don't really see my car as anything more than a mode of transportation though I certainly make an effort to take care of it properly. Even then, I still prefer to walk to places if I can because I like the exercise. Plus I like public transport where I can spend the time reading or fall asleep :-p
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    Jan 20, 2012 8:20 AM GMT
    pocketnico said
    But I guess in the end I just not into cars like some people. I don't really see my car as anything more than a mode of transportation though I certainly make an effort to take care of it properly. Even then, I still prefer to walk to places if I can because I like the exercise. Plus I like public transport where I can spend the time reading or fall asleep :-p


    well that's different. You're in the northeast and public transportation is the recommended mode of transportation.

    I be seeing these little git straight boys pulling up to the gym in BMWs and shit. Now, I don't know the situation behind it...may or may not be theirs. Maybe they are lucky, who knows.

    But I think some of it has to do with a lot of gay guys don't be wanting to go out and get it. It's like, "I'll hold onto my dented, dinged 90s model car as long as the transmission holds up. Sure the radio doesn't work, the paint is fading...but we'll ride it out". I know...because I was that guy LOL (except my radio was brand new).

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    Jan 20, 2012 8:25 AM GMT
    I don't really think this falls as a "gay" thing. There are plenty of people who hang on to their clunkers until the very end.

    Personally I tend to be suspicious of people with nice wheels. To me it screams some sort of insecurity, so they need the top car to make up for it.
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    Jan 20, 2012 8:29 AM GMT
    Most of my gay friends are in audis, bmws, porche, more. lol
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    Jan 20, 2012 8:30 AM GMT
    Most of my gay friends don't even have a car! Hell, some of them don't even have a driver's license. But you really don't need a car to live here.
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    Jan 20, 2012 8:31 AM GMT
    pocketnico saidI don't really think this falls as a "gay" thing. There are plenty of people who hang on to their clunkers until the very end.


    Well it goes both ways. The stereotypical gay guy driving the hottest sports car with the top down like Fabio or someone LOL.

    But I find as a whole, we tend to hold onto very average looking vehicles even when they are in bad shape. And then they get neglected even more and get in even worse shape (like the proactive commercial)

    But see...what you said kind of answered the question. A lot of guys probably think if they get something flashy, that people gonna think they insecure. That's bullshit. Straight people don't think like that. They have no issue getting the newest car on the market and acting all non-chalant about it.
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    Jan 20, 2012 8:34 AM GMT
    Maybe it's just me. I'm suspicious of everyone and everything they do icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 20, 2012 8:48 AM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    I look at cars like someone owning a microwave oven or a VCR. "Yay! You own a microwave....or a VCR.


    I don't care about microwaves or VCRs or even TV's for that matter either. But a car is different. It's more public.

    I guess with me, it's just fun to ride in something fancy sometimes. I know it doesn't say everything about the person, but it's just fun.

    One reason I tend to change my mind about moving to places like NYC and SF and apparently Vancouver...is because I know having a car is a HUGE expense. I grew up with cars, and I couldn't get rid of mine completely. I like knowing I can get up and leave town at any moment and pack up as many bags as needed.
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    Jan 20, 2012 8:55 AM GMT
    yourname2000 saidAnything that loses 20% of it's value 5min after you buy it is a liability. Smart money limits liability.


    But I'm not suggesting someone buy a NEW car. There's plenty of used and pre-owned cars out there.

    I think smart money realizes you can look good and be cost effective. You can ride in a Jaguar, but maybe it's 5 years old. It will still look good and you got a deal! You don't have to buy a 2 year old, base model car that's going to crap out at 100,000 miles.

    You can put a down on a nicer car, then sell the old one...and take that money and put it towards paying off the jag! (not suggesting jag, but you get my point)

    I can understand people who can't afford it...but there's people who I know can afford it, they just don't give a crap about riding in crap.
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    Jan 20, 2012 1:27 PM GMT
    A few months after my partner and I had tied the knot (at least in our own minds, if not legally in this red State) I told him I'd buy him a new car as a Christmas present. Since a car is such a personal thing I dared not make it a complete surprise, and needed his input. A present is worthless if the recipient doesn't like it.

    I suggested BMW, Mercedes and other upscale brands. He refused, said he wouldn't drive an expensive car, though he'd owned them before, considered it squandering money. He insisted on a 4-cylinder economy car, and set a ridiculously low price I wasn't allowed to exceed (I was paying full cash, since something that has payments is not a present). I did manage to stay under his price, though, thanks to a friend in the business.

    So here we are, 2 older retired gentleman, driving around in this nondescript econo-box. We see our contemporaries in all kinds of stunning vehicles, but my partner is as satisfied as can be, says this is the best car he's ever owned. I'd still have liked to have gone a few steps upmarket, but there it is (I rarely drive now, so we only have the 1 car). My present makes him happy, and that was its primary aim. Maybe we're not the only ones who fall into this category of being owners of modest cars for similar reasons.
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    Jan 20, 2012 1:43 PM GMT
    I love cars, but honestly I'm not going to be a snob about it...If she's great condition and is not falling at the seams..I'm good to go...

    Now pick me up bitches!! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Jan 20, 2012 2:39 PM GMT
    None of my friends are ballers, so we all drive modest cars. icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 21, 2012 4:16 AM GMT
    What the hell is up with that thread title?
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    Jan 21, 2012 4:38 AM GMT
    Even if I have the money, I will not buy an expensive car. I'm fine with something average. Expensive cars attracts too much attention and I prefer a low profile without people guessing how much money someone has.

    My first car is a Toyota Corolla 2010 and I promised myself that even if I can, I will never buy a car above $50 000. It's just unnecessary for me...
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    Jan 21, 2012 4:42 AM GMT
    First of all, Miami is pretentious as fuck, and conspicuous consumption is a way of life there. But in general, cars are not an investment, so maybe you're just around more intelligent people now?
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    Jan 21, 2012 5:08 AM GMT
    erm, personally I never wanted a fancy car and I still don't even though I could.

    It's pointless and way to much so why bother?
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    Jan 21, 2012 5:09 AM GMT
    Foolish mortal, you cannot delete a thread once other posters haver posted.
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    Jan 21, 2012 5:10 AM GMT
    im not even gonna bother
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    Jan 21, 2012 5:15 AM GMT
    I could afford to drive a luxury car but I choose to drive a piece of crap Geo.
    It comes with a 1.0L engine that gets me 65miles/gal on the highway and it keeps all the gold diggers away too. Rarely breaks down and if it does the repair is simple because it's such a basic engine.

    I simply prefer to spend excess money on something I enjoy and a car is not one of them. Point A to B as environmentally and economically as possible in the concrete jungle I live.
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    Jan 21, 2012 5:17 AM GMT
    26mileman saidI could afford to drive a luxury car but I choose to drive a piece of crap Geo.
    It comes with a 1.0L engine that gets me 65miles/gal on the highway and it keeps all the gold diggers away too. Rarely breaks down and if it does the repair is simple because it's such a basic engine.

    I simply prefer to spend excess money on something I enjoy and a car is not one of them. Point A to B as environmentally and economically as possible in the concrete jungle I live.


    I hate the 3 cylinder, you shoulda got the swift gti 1.2 lol
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    Jan 21, 2012 5:58 AM GMT
    Iceblink saidWhat the hell is up with that thread title?


    It says a lot, in more ways that one. icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 21, 2012 6:37 AM GMT
    When I was 21 I bought my first new car....a 1983 Pontiac Trans-Am. I worked 80 hour weeks, saved up and paid $12,100 cash for this car. I was very proud. A short while later, my dad's best friend, a very successful and blunt talking Jewish businessman who grew up dirt poor on the streets of Boston, told me the following, "A car is worst investment you can make! Sell the damn car and put the money into computer stocks. That's the future."

    In 1983, Apple computer stock was $8/share. My $12,100 would have bought 1,500 shares of Apple. The stock is now $420/share and has had three 2 for 1 splits.

    The Trans-Am is most likely in the junk yard.

    The Apple stock is worth over $5,000,000.

    My point here is that you young guys who buy or lease new luxury cars are selling out your financial future. A Civic or Mazda3 sells for 1/2 a new 3 series BMW or C class Benz. The SI or Speed versions are few grand more, and lots of fun to drive.

    I have a friend who is the F&I Manager at a BMW dealership. He sees the income tax returns of all the buyers, and shakes his head at the "the fools" (his words) who buy cars, as he says 50% and maybe 75% have little or nothing in the way of assets or investments. My advice is to spend some and save some, but don't let the luxury car **fool** you.