Marriage and Love: A Photograph

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    Jan 21, 2012 2:01 AM GMT
    I took this photo of my friends kissing the other day. I absolutely love how it came out. It reminds me of the following quote from Aristophanes's Speech in Plato's Symposium:

    "Now when their nature was divided in two, each half in longing rushed to the other half of itself and they threw their arms around each other and intertwined them, desiring to grow together into one."

    EDIT: Go to Page 2 for @EastCoastNAZ's awesome "reading" of this photograph, and my friends' response.

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    Jan 21, 2012 4:35 PM GMT
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    Jan 21, 2012 4:55 PM GMT
    Ed O'Neill's definitely a real jock.......
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    Jan 21, 2012 5:38 PM GMT
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    Jan 21, 2012 5:52 PM GMT
    Claystation saidMisleading thread title icon_mad.gif
    There, I fixed it. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 21, 2012 5:56 PM GMT
    19c79 saidThere, I fixed it. icon_biggrin.gif


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    Jan 21, 2012 6:04 PM GMT
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    19c79 saidThere, I fixed it. icon_biggrin.gif
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    I can't believe none of y'all bitches has said anything about my photo. Beauty is wasted on you.

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    Jan 21, 2012 6:05 PM GMT
    Your photo is blurry icon_neutral.gif
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    Jan 21, 2012 6:06 PM GMT
    Claystation saidYour photo is blurry icon_neutral.gif

    C'est le point. Le sigh.
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    Jan 21, 2012 6:07 PM GMT
    19c79 said
    C'est le point. Le sigh.


    Dont get mad at me because you take crappy pictures icon_mad.gif
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    Jan 21, 2012 6:11 PM GMT
    Claystation said
    19c79 saidC'est le point. Le sigh.
    Dont get mad at me because you take crappy pictures icon_mad.gif

    It's ok, Clay. I'm not mad. It's not your fault that you can't appreciate art.

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    Jan 21, 2012 6:13 PM GMT
    19c79 said
    It's ok, Clay. I'm not mad. It's not your fault that you can't appreciate art.

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    Art is subjective..........REALLY subjective
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    Jan 21, 2012 6:16 PM GMT
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    19c79 saidIt's ok, Clay. I'm not mad. It's not your fault that you can't appreciate art.
    Art is subjective..........REALLY subjective

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    Jan 21, 2012 6:16 PM GMT
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    It is a pretty cool picture. But talks of melding of spirits always make me icon_neutral.gif

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    Jan 21, 2012 6:51 PM GMT
    Loooove it!
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    19, ah gots yo back, bay-yotch!
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    Jan 21, 2012 7:42 PM GMT
    "Si on me presse de dire pourquoi je l'aimais, je sens que cela ne se peut exprimer qu'en répondant : 'Parce que c'était lui, parce que c'était moi.'"

    (If you press me to say why I loved him, I feel that it cannot be expressed except by replying: 'Because it was him; because it was me.')

    --Michel de Montaigne, Essays, I.28
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    Jan 21, 2012 7:54 PM GMT
    That is awesome!
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    Jan 21, 2012 7:57 PM GMT
    It is an interesting pic and I can appreciate the subliminal impression it makes, but as with most art for me it comes across as more of a "Rorschach test" on my own frame of mind at the time I see it.......so I see a blur of time in the kiss of two subjects.....But then my frame of mind is not in a "romantic" setting, so that "intention" along with many others, may be getting subconsciously filtered out for me.....icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 21, 2012 7:57 PM GMT
    commoncoll saidaurora_borealis-1.jpg

    It is a pretty cool picture. But talks of melding of spirits always make me icon_neutral.gif

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    THIS IS very COOL!
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    Jan 21, 2012 9:26 PM GMT
    commoncoll saidIt is a pretty cool picture. But talks of melding of spirits always make me icon_neutral.gif

    Where are you now?

    The melding of spirits is, indeed problematic. Aristophanes goes on to say that these humans' desire to "grow together into one" caused them to perish "out of hunger and inactivity too because they were unwilling to do anything apart from one another."

    And that is how sex came to be:

    "...Zeus took pity and provided another device, turning their genitals to the front... so that if male met female, they might in their embrace beget and their race continue to exist, while at the same time if male met male, there'd at least be satiety from their intercourse and they'd be relieved and go back to work and look after the other concerns of life."
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    Jan 21, 2012 9:28 PM GMT
    MikeOnMain said"Si on me presse de dire pourquoi je l'aimais, je sens que cela ne se peut exprimer qu'en répondant : 'Parce que c'était lui, parce que c'était moi.'"

    (If you press me to say why I loved him, I feel that it cannot be expressed except by replying: 'Because it was him; because it was me.')

    --Michel de Montaigne, Essays, I.28

    Mike, that is one of my favorite essays by Montaigne. And I love that line.
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    Jan 21, 2012 9:34 PM GMT
    Since we're talking about love...

    Sonnet LXIX
    by Pablo Neruda

    To not be is, perhaps, to be without you being;
    without you slashing through midday
    like a blue flower; without you walking, later,
    through the fog and on the cobbles;
    without that light you carry in your hand,
    a light which others may not see as golden,
    a light which no one knew was growing
    like the crimson cradle of the rose.
    In sum, without you being, without your coming
    brusque, inciting, to know my life.
    You, gust of a rosebush, wheat of the wind.
    And since then I am, because you are.
    Since then you are, I am, and we are.
    And for love I will be, you will be, we will be.

    (Translated by me, paying more mind to meaning than metrics.)
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    Jan 21, 2012 9:59 PM GMT
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    Every "artist" to have claimed to have done something artistic icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 21, 2012 10:23 PM GMT
    Claystation said
    19c79 saidNow who's mad? icon_biggrin.gif
    Every "artist" to have claimed to have done something artistic icon_biggrin.gif

    Oh, Clay...

    That you were once unkind befriends me now,
    And for that sorrow which I then did feel
    Needs must I under my transgression bow,
    Unless my nerves were brass or hammer'd steel.
    For if you were by my unkindness shaken
    As I by yours, you've pass'd a hell of time,
    And I, a tyrant, have no leisure taken
    To weigh how once I suffered in your crime.
    O, that our night of woe might have remember'd
    My deepest sense, how hard true sorrow hits,
    And soon to you, as you to me, then tender'd
    The humble salve which wounded bosoms fits!
    But that your trespass now becomes a fee;
    Mine ransoms yours, and yours must ransom me.

    (Shakespeare, Sonnet 120)