Man loving thug

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    Jan 21, 2012 7:42 PM GMT
    http://phoenixpsbgbm.com/2012/01/20/man-loving-thug/

    I love this blog. I think if the public were to see all gay men as various personalities in part of the community v.s. the nelly queen shown on tv we would have a much better acceptance rate, hopefully acknowledging we are just normal men who happen to be gay.

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    Jan 21, 2012 8:21 PM GMT
    God, I want to &*#$ you just for posting this.
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    Jan 21, 2012 8:26 PM GMT
    Another avenue for fetishizing the straight man fantasy.
  • mybud

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    Jan 21, 2012 8:42 PM GMT
    Your saying be gay but change your persona....fuck that....
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    Jan 21, 2012 9:00 PM GMT
    "When I stayed at his home I remember hearing gun shots one night I was sleep, and another night he walked across the street to score some weed."

    I'm good on that one, bruh. I don't need my car broken into while all of this going on.

    But this made me laugh:

    One of the last men I’ve dated came to visit me and seriously was looking for a hood he could relax in.
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    Jan 21, 2012 9:07 PM GMT
    redbull saidhttp://phoenixpsbgbm.com/2012/01/20/man-loving-thug/

    I love this blog. I think if the public were to see all gay men as various personalities in part of the community v.s. the nelly queen shown on tv we would have a much better acceptance rate, hopefully acknowledging we are just normal men who happen to be gay.



    I think it's odd and a little discouraging that you're talking about general acceptance towards homosexuals but yet refer to obvious gay people as "nelly queens" almost as though it's an insult or not "normal" as you put it. I get the point you're making that a variety of guys depicted as homosexuals, but it sounds like you yourself might have some issues with being accepting.
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    Jan 21, 2012 9:15 PM GMT
    Hmm....I'm trying to think which group would be better to represent gay people,
    'nelly' or 'thug'. Considering the archaic views about 'sinful disgusting homos' in the US by the religious, thug representation of gay people would be right down their alley, and give them validation about what they already think of gay people.

    ...just a thought...
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    Jan 21, 2012 9:25 PM GMT
    meninlove said Hmm....I'm trying to think which group would be better to represent gay people,
    'nelly' or 'thug'. Considering the archaic views about 'sinful disgusting homos' in the US by the religious, thug representation of gay people would be right down their alley, and give them validation about what they already think of gay people.

    ...just a thought...


    Maybe, but I guarantee you they wouldn't fuck with a thug and perceived as weaker and going to fight back like they presume "nelly queens" are.
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    Jan 21, 2012 9:27 PM GMT
    These anti-effeminate threads (which are really just internalized homophobia) are so tiring.

    And also you clear don't watch much TV...

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    Jan 21, 2012 9:28 PM GMT
    meninlove said Hmm....I'm trying to think which group would be better to represent gay people,
    'nelly' or 'thug'.


    I'll go with Nelly...

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    Jan 21, 2012 9:28 PM GMT
    The "alpha gay male" is non-existent in the media yet it feels like gay guys are fine with catering to only one brand of gay. We get all these divas and queens but no princes or kings. No matter the role- military, firefighter, thug, corp exec, athlete, these strong male roles never seem to apply to gay men on the big screen and on the little screen. Instead we get: Fat fem guy, Skinny fem guy, Young fem guy, Old fem guy, Sweet fem guy, Angry fem guy and Funny fem guy.
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    Jan 21, 2012 9:35 PM GMT
    I find nothing manly about a thug, Brownale; I find them disturbed children that never grew up.

    -Doug



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    Jan 21, 2012 9:36 PM GMT
    Brownale saidNo matter the role- military, firefighter, thug, corp exec, athlete, these strong male roles never seem to apply to gay men on the big screen and on the little screen. Instead we get: Fat fem guy, Skinny fem guy, Young fem guy, Old fem guy, Sweet fem guy, Angry fem guy and Funny fem guy.


    Or it's the forever bachelor mid 40s professional...
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    Jan 21, 2012 9:57 PM GMT
    TallJock said
    meninlove said Hmm....I'm trying to think which group would be better to represent gay people,
    'nelly' or 'thug'.


    I'll go with Nelly...

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    nelly is so hot. i want to fuck him
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    Jan 21, 2012 9:59 PM GMT
    TallJock said
    meninlove said Hmm....I'm trying to think which group would be better to represent gay people,
    'nelly' or 'thug'.


    I'll go with Nelly...

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    Heehee icon_smile.gif

    That Nelly's cute though
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    Jan 21, 2012 10:02 PM GMT
    I agree with him that being a "thug" shouldn't make it impossible to be gay. I think it's easier to think in absolutes about things we don't know.

    "Thugness" can be fetishized just like "jock" can, the former just has more negative associations. That doesn't make the fetish itself wrong though.

    I do hope the media catches on and shows a fuller representation of GLBT people - and if they won't do it, we have to do it ourselves.
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    Jan 21, 2012 10:30 PM GMT
    Cable TV has tons of diversity in portraying the LGBT community. HBO, Showtime, STARZ, I mean dude is no one aware of all the shows on these channels? Even way-back-when early pioneer Queer As Folk, often maligned for portraying the gay man as a narcissist, club-going sex-obsessed cartoon had a lot of realistic, three-dimensional gay characters if you actually watched the series. Hell I know a ton of Brians in real life and he was the flattest one.

    It's only network TV that waters down to stereotypes because it has to appeal to the common-denominator: still pretty backwards Middle-America which, though getting a little better at it, is ignorant and fearful of the homosexual individual unless it's portrayed as a harmless eunuch.
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    Jan 21, 2012 11:04 PM GMT
    Ariodante saidCable TV has tons of diversity in portraying the LGBT community. HBO, Showtime, STARZ, I mean dude is no one aware of all the shows on these channels? Even way-back-when early pioneer Queer As Folk, often maligned for portraying the gay man as a narcissist, club-going sex-obsessed cartoon had a lot of realistic, three-dimensional gay characters if you actually watched the series. Hell I know a ton of Brians in real life and he was the flattest one.

    It's only network TV that waters down to stereotypes because it has to appeal to the common-denominator: still pretty backwards Middle-America which, though getting a little better at it, is ignorant and fearful of the homosexual individual unless it's portrayed as a harmless eunuch.


    You better say it right you Nelly thing you...

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    Jan 21, 2012 11:12 PM GMT
    Wow, I feel like I'm completely missing the boat here.

    In the first paragraph of his write-up he asks, " What I can’t understand is why people don’t understand the ‘Homo thug’ is just a regular thug who just happens to like men? Why complicate things as if liking men means you can’t also carry around a “hood mentality”.

    In the last paragraph, he states, "The problem comes when the regular man is expected to act as if he is a thug just to get a chance." Then he continues to plead not to be a fetish.

    Am I the only one who sees the contradiction here?
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    Jan 22, 2012 3:33 AM GMT
    EastCoastNAZ saidWow, I feel like I'm completely missing the boat here.

    In the first paragraph of his write-up he asks, " What I can’t understand is why people don’t understand the ‘Homo thug’ is just a regular thug who just happens to like men? Why complicate things as if liking men means you can’t also carry around a “hood mentality”.

    In the last paragraph, he states, "The problem comes when the regular man is expected to act as if he is a thug just to get a chance." Then he continues to plead not to be a fetish.

    Am I the only one who sees the contradiction here?


    I don't see it...

    I mean he's basically saying if you're homo and a 'thug' you can still be that. But you don't have to go from being a flaming sissy to thug (butch) just so people who want that kind of guy likes you.

    A lot of gay Black guys are sorely mistaken to think that you have to 'push' thug persona especially online. But truth be told, you get further down the road and meet way better quality people in the gay lifestyle when you drop that shit.

    You can still be very much be a Black top without being a thug. They are not mutual exclusive.

    The blog post said
    then you meet a guy and instead of a backwards cap and baggy jeans, your clothes actually fit and say Express; they are completely disinterested because of the image they were expecting. That’s when the fantasy has destructive powers, and it’s a syndrome I know all too well.


    yeah, it's like those bottom queens in the hood, or even some preppy guy who wants to experiment...they expect you to be this ultra-dominant top, and if you're not, "I'm utterly turned off".

  • Jan 22, 2012 1:03 PM GMT
    Go watch The Wire. The character Omar is the toughest thug on the street and also gay.
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    Jan 22, 2012 1:21 PM GMT
    I always thought Nelly was gay
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    Jan 22, 2012 1:40 PM GMT
    Brownale saidThe "alpha gay male" is non-existent in the media yet it feels like gay guys are fine with catering to only one brand of gay. We get all these divas and queens but no princes or kings. No matter the role- military, firefighter, thug, corp exec, athlete, these strong male roles never seem to apply to gay men on the big screen and on the little screen. Instead we get: Fat fem guy, Skinny fem guy, Young fem guy, Old fem guy, Sweet fem guy, Angry fem guy and Funny fem guy.


    the only show i can recall with a great gay character was the cop boyfriend in 'Six Feet Under '

    masculine and beautiful - he was amazing as a role model - check it out
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    Jan 22, 2012 5:20 PM GMT
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    TallJock said
    meninlove said Hmm....I'm trying to think which group would be better to represent gay people,
    'nelly' or 'thug'.


    I'll go with Nelly...

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    nelly is so hot. i want to fuck him


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    +1

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    Jan 23, 2012 7:22 PM GMT
    Balljunkie said
    closer85 said
    TallJock said
    meninlove said Hmm....I'm trying to think which group would be better to represent gay people,
    'nelly' or 'thug'.


    I'll go with Nelly...

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    nelly is so hot. i want to fuck him


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    +1



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