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    Jan 21, 2012 10:10 PM GMT
    You guys took this thread totally wrong to imply that I don't tip waitstaff and am rude to waiters. That was not what I was getting at.

    I'm not going to keep re-explaining the same thing over and over.
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    Jan 21, 2012 11:26 PM GMT
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    Jan 21, 2012 11:32 PM GMT
    Always be nice to waiters, otherwise you'll end up drinking an awful lot of waiters' piss.
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    Jan 21, 2012 11:42 PM GMT
    Someone on here told me you should judge a guy not by how they treat you, but by how they treat waiters, cashiers and shop assistants.

    I've been thinking about that ever since..
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    Jan 21, 2012 11:44 PM GMT
    I dated a woman who was like that. I'm pretty sure that everything we were ever served had somebody's piss or spit in it.

    She'd ask ludicrous questions about every item on the menu. Huge exasperated sigh after every answer. Then always, always, asked for some naked lettuce and a bottle of water. Then, if one of her friends was along, she'd loudly discuss the sorts of behaviors she expected from wait staff, until our food arrived or was thrown at us.

    There's a reason they print a menu. It's what they have. icon_rolleyes.gif

    (Obviously I didn't date her too many times, but did go on a lot of ski trips & etc. with her and the poor sap who eventually married her. Every time I think about her, I feel as if I won some sort of contest and that guy lost it.)

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    Jan 21, 2012 11:44 PM GMT
    + I used to work in catering (not specifically waitering).

    Whiny little customers who think they're too good to have what's actually on the menu was #1 piss take.

    Fair enough if your meal is overcooked, or cold. I accept customer complaints.
    But what kind of loser goes into a restaurant and orders something totally different to the selection of food on the menu?

    This is nothing to do with the OP, FYI, just a rant.

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    Jan 21, 2012 11:45 PM GMT
    Mil8 saidAlways be nice to waiters, otherwise you'll end up drinking an awful lot of waiters' piss.


    plus it just shows how you were brought up.
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    Jan 21, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
    kaoi said
    Mil8 saidAlways be nice to waiters, otherwise you'll end up drinking an awful lot of waiters' piss.


    plus it just shows how you were brought up.


    This.
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    Jan 21, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
    TallJock said...we will go out where I'll make a complex, ever changing order to keep the wait staff on their toes.

    Sorry, but a gentleman doesn't mistreat or abuse the service staff at a restaurant. Wherever WE go the restaurant staff greets us with hugs & kisses.

    It's really quite self-serving, since the last people you wanna piss-off are your waiters. And you do get the best treatment that way.

    You SAY you are nice to the staff, but I suspect you really aren't. Any negative consequences of that abusive behavior are a self-inflicted wound, as we used to say in the Army, and merit no sympathy.
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    Jan 21, 2012 11:54 PM GMT
    I was a waiter in my college days - - - and a damned good one, if I say so myself.

    No excuse for anyone treating a waiter, or clerk - - anyone in service - - with anything but polite treatment. No excuse. Sometimes an ass who was brought up poorly - with no education, breeding, tact or style will treat a waiter badly ... with the misguided notion that he is the "big man out on the town". Nothing cool about that at all. In fact - - - when you see really fine people, the best people, people with education, breeding and tact - - - notice how beautifully they treat the waiters or any clerk, server, car valet......anyone they meet.
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    Jan 21, 2012 11:54 PM GMT
    Being nice to the wait staff and constantly changing your order are two very different things. I'm sure alot of wait staff would prefer a not-so-nice person to put their order in, eat, leave a tip, and leave. Turnover is how they make their tips. Constantly changing your order delays the processes, potentially causes lost profits from a changed order gone to waste, less turnover for the waiters/restaurant, and annoyed company. I mean, really, can ordering food really be so complicated that it becomes such a consistent, regular annoyance to others? From my perspective, it's a very self-absorbed and self-righteous behavior because you are not taking anyone else into consideration.

    That excerpt from the letter, and this thread, have nothing to do with how nice you are to a waiter.
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    Jan 22, 2012 12:04 AM GMT
    lol.
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    Jan 22, 2012 12:10 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    jboy84 saidSomeone on here told me you should judge a guy not by how they treat you, but by how they treat waiters, cashiers and shop assistants.

    I've been thinking about that ever since..


    I'm very cognizant of this also. One thing I also notice is how poorly the waitstaff in restaurants typically treat Mexican immigrant staff who clean and breakdown tables.

    No human being has more value over another. Especially over something trivial like a job title. icon_rolleyes.gif


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    Jan 22, 2012 12:15 AM GMT
    jboy84 said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    jboy84 saidSomeone on here told me you should judge a guy not by how they treat you, but by how they treat waiters, cashiers and shop assistants.

    I've been thinking about that ever since..


    I'm very cognizant of this also. One thing I also notice is how poorly the waitstaff in restaurants typically treat Mexican immigrant staff who clean and breakdown tables.

    No human being has more value over another. Especially over something trivial like a job title. icon_rolleyes.gif


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    Jan 22, 2012 12:16 AM GMT
    It's sad how many times I've seen waiters, attendants, etc. look at me shocked when I say things like "Thank you" or "Have a good day".
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    Jan 22, 2012 12:16 AM GMT
    Jockbod48 saidI was a waiter in my college days - - - and a damned good one, if I say so myself.

    No excuse for anyone treating a waiter, or clerk - - anyone in service - - with anything but polite treatment. No excuse. Sometimes an ass who was brought up poorly - with no education, breeding, tact or style will treat a waiter badly ... with the misguided notion that he is the "big man out on the town". Nothing cool about that at all. In fact - - - when you see really fine people, the best people, people with education, breeding and tact - - - notice how beautifully they treat the waiters or any clerk, server, car valet......anyone they meet.

    I learned this from my late parents. Whose behavior to service people was impeccable, always friendly and outgoing, never condescending, but rather the attitude of equals.

    My Mother in particular would get livid if she saw someone berating a waiter or some other person. "Don't you ever behave like that, Robert," she would say to me. "You are no better than anyone else, and everyone is your equal, no matter what job they hold." And she was quite serious about it, and likewise my Father, who was the most racially color-blind person I ever knew, and in the 1950s in the US, no less.

    I worship my late parents, and what they instructed me. And if I am ever egotistically abusive to a waiter or other service person I know my Mom & Dad would come back to haunt me. It's simply not what a gentleman does, and not what they taught their son.
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    Jan 22, 2012 12:23 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    jboy84 said

    Marry me


    Awwh...I think this is my first public RJ marriage proposal! Gasp!

    I will on one condition. So long as you promise to not take off those sexy glasses during our intimate and tender whore moments in the sack. icon_twisted.gif


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    Jan 22, 2012 12:26 AM GMT
    archon said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    jboy84 said

    Marry me


    Awwh...I think this is my first public RJ marriage proposal! Gasp!

    I will on one condition. So long as you promise to not take off those sexy glasses during our intimate and tender whore moments in the sack. icon_twisted.gif


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    Archon don't be jealous of me.
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    Jan 22, 2012 12:30 AM GMT
    jboy84 said
    archon said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    jboy84 said

    Marry me


    Awwh...I think this is my first public RJ marriage proposal! Gasp!

    I will on one condition. So long as you promise to not take off those sexy glasses during our intimate and tender whore moments in the sack. icon_twisted.gif


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    Archon don't be jealous of me.


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    Jan 22, 2012 12:32 AM GMT
    TallJock saidSo in a section of the reply 'fuck off' letter I sent to the guy I used to date, he goes on and writes in a 3rd person sort of way:

    If he has cooked, I'll choke down the over cooked chicken (tastes like it has been in the oven for HOURS) and grimace (he really can't cook- but I'm nice about it) or we will go out where I'll make a complex, ever changing order to keep the wait staff on their toes. With any luck we have time to charge across town to catch the movie.

    Excuse me? Why he gotta talk about how I am with waiters? I'm always nice to wait staff and if wanting a bit of extra service or details about the menu is a big problem, then that's your issue.

    I don't know what's wrong with someone to think that everyone should just order something, no questions asked...leave a tip and go home.





    Talljock it seems to be a new problem/dilemma everyday!
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    Jan 22, 2012 12:33 AM GMT
    jboy84 said
    archon said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    jboy84 said

    Marry me


    Awwh...I think this is my first public RJ marriage proposal! Gasp!

    I will on one condition. So long as you promise to not take off those sexy glasses during our intimate and tender whore moments in the sack. icon_twisted.gif


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    Archon don't be jealous of me.


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    Jan 22, 2012 12:37 AM GMT
    Work in a busy restaurant for a few months. Then get back to us on how rude and nasty customers are to waiters (who basically work for peanuts).

    Your lack of courtesy to waiters is a red flag you are self absorbed and inconsiderate.
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    Jan 22, 2012 12:59 AM GMT
    You are a terrible person for two reasons:

    1.You sent a "fuck off letter" to a guy you used to date.
    2. You are mean to waitstaff.

    I am a terrible person for many more reasons. Those two, are not amongst them.

    G-d bless and I'm going to pray that you come to your fucking senses you pretentious prick.
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    Jan 22, 2012 1:06 AM GMT
    Oh, you live in Denver.

    I'm going to trace your IP address, map it to a physical address, come to your house and keep you on your toes.

    Or not.

    Ya never know.

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    Jan 22, 2012 1:09 AM GMT
    Jockbod48 said

    No excuse for anyone treating a waiter, or clerk - - anyone in service - - with anything but polite treatment. No excuse.
    Agreed.. IF a staff person is nasty.. take it to the management, NOT the individual..