The Republican Party just imploded - Gingrich called for South Carolina

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    Jan 22, 2012 12:11 AM GMT
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    Jan 22, 2012 12:21 AM GMT
    Southern conservatives wont vote for a mormon!!

    "Anyone but Romney" flavor of the week wins!
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    Jan 22, 2012 12:22 AM GMT
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    Jan 22, 2012 12:28 AM GMT
    Republican establishment having panic attack! All eyes on Florida with more diverse electorate.
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    Jan 22, 2012 12:32 AM GMT
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    Jan 22, 2012 12:41 AM GMT
    Faux news must be working OT to come up with talking poings to let republican voters know what they should think about this.
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    Jan 22, 2012 12:43 AM GMT
    "She isn't young enough or pretty enough to be the President's wife. And besides, she has cancer." - Newt, on his first wife.
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    Jan 22, 2012 12:50 AM GMT
    catfish5 saidFaux news must be working OT to come up with talking poings to let republican voters know what they should think about this.





    Good one !!! LOL !!!


    Well here we have the results of the TBag - Bible Carrying - War for Jezuz crowd, look for similar results all over the south. God what a sad day for republicans. God is certainly taking back America. LOL
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    Jan 22, 2012 1:01 AM GMT
    Guess that Niki Haley endorsement didnt do Mitt shitt since she is so well hated in SC.

    Romneys son on stage to his left sure looks dearling tho.
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    Jan 22, 2012 1:04 AM GMT
    catfish5 saidGuess that Niki Haley endorsement didnt do Mitt shitt since she is so well hated in SC.

    Romneys son on stage to his left sure looks dearling tho.


    haha - Im so happy Nikki got egged by her own voters - she finds herself in some serios sh*t a year into her first term! Thats about the only son that is decent (whats his name?) - the other are so severe looking!
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    Jan 22, 2012 1:11 AM GMT
    Where is the conservaposse? Must be so pissed off that they are brain storming ideas for super PAC ads to fire at Obama.
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    Jan 22, 2012 1:33 AM GMT
    I'm glad Newt stayed despite the mishaps with his campaign earlier on. I thought he was done for when so many on his team jumped ship.

    If Newt's win translates into how working class conservatives will vote, Mitt will have a hard time for those deep red states.
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    Jan 22, 2012 1:34 AM GMT
    catfish5 saidFaux news must be working OT to come up with talking poings to let republican voters know what they should think about this.




    Listening to Fix just a little while ago - I got the impression that the right-wing powers that be have looked at their private poll numbers and secret focus group results and have come to the conclusion that Mitt Romneycare is unlikeable and without the warmth and relatability necessary to get elected president.

    And the memo has been passed down to the right-wing propaganda crew on Fix.

    The right-wing propaganda crew on Fix were openly talking about Willard's lack of warmth and appeal - and comparing Willard unfavorably to Newty.

    Shocking!

    Perhaps the Repub powers that be and the spin crew at Fix are turning away from Willard and switching to Newty!

    That's kind of like deciding to drink battery acid instead of liquid drano.

    LOL
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    Jan 22, 2012 1:39 AM GMT
    TropicalMark said"She isn't young enough or pretty enough to be the President's wife. And besides, she has cancer." - Newt, on his first wife.



    This all over the internet. I have to say Bill and I are a little stunned by it.
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    Jan 22, 2012 1:42 AM GMT
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    TropicalMark said"She isn't young enough or pretty enough to be the President's wife. And besides, she has cancer." - Newt, on his first wife.



    This all over the internet. I have to say Bill and I are a little stunned by it.
    How about this one:
    "It doesn't matter what I do. People need to hear what I have to say. There's no one else who can say what I can say. It doesn't matter what I live." - Newt.
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    Jan 22, 2012 1:50 AM GMT
    I dont think this is a big deal. A six month long slugfest between two non-conservative Republicans should be interesting, like the contest between the President and Senator Clinton in 2007-2008.

    Besides that, the nation's first progressive was a Republican, so maybe the party is looking to its past for some kind of hope today. I personally think they are looking in the wrong place, but what the hell, right?
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    Jan 22, 2012 1:55 AM GMT
    grovetown1 saidI dont think this is a big deal. A six month long slugfest between two non-conservative Republicans should be interesting, like the contest between the President and Senator Clinton in 2007-2008.

    Besides that, the nation's first progressive was a Republican, so maybe the party is looking to its past for some kind of hope today. I personally think they are looking in the wrong place, but what the hell, right?

    Agree, but the guys here are grasping at everything. I think it is healthy for things to be exposed now and if Romney is the one, the issues and debates will toughen him up. Plus he will have at has back PACs that will fire mercilessly at Obama, keeping him on the defensive with things he does not want to discuss, performance he wants to hide from, and lies and broken promises he would want us to forget. The messages will be a combination of facts and ridicule. With that in place, the Republican candidate will have strong winds at his back.
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    Jan 22, 2012 1:56 AM GMT
    We both still perplexed as to why Huntsman didn't get in to this contest. Good grief. We think he would have been an excellent choice.

    Why are US politics so controlled by the charismatic? Look at our Mr Harper; he has as much showmanship as a paving brick, but made it in with a majority.

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    Jan 22, 2012 1:57 AM GMT
    grovetown1 saidI dont think this is a big deal. A six month long slugfest between two non-conservative Republicans should be interesting, like the contest between the President and Senator Clinton in 2007-2008.

    Besides that, the nation's first progressive was a Republican, so maybe the party is looking to its past for some kind of hope today. I personally think they are looking in the wrong place, but what the hell, right?





    What on earth would make you think the Repubs are looking for a "progressive" to nominate?

    Quite the opposite.

    75% of Repub voters are desperately looking for an arch conservative to nominate!
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    Jan 22, 2012 2:14 AM GMT
    Here are some comments from the political blogsphere worth reading:

    -> It is a bad day to be Republican.

    -> Pardon me while I throw up.

    -> Why is it that Romney is Mormon and Gingrich has three wives?

    -> This Just In: In light of losing in SC, Romney considers adultery.

    -> Open marriage for all !

    -> Newt was saying how bad it was of Clinton to have a so-called affair while at the same time Newt was having his own affair. The worst type of person is a hypocrite.

    -> When President Clinton was in office, all you holy rollers in the south were appalled. Now you vote for this cad gettinrich. What hypocrisy. Republican't party do as I say not as I do!

    -> LMAO!!!! Christians choose Newt Gingrich!

    -> Amazing that wife cheater, twice divorced, Globalist, CFR member, NAFTA, pro-choice, pro-amnesty, pro-individual mandate, 33rd degree Mason, Roman Catholic Newt Gingrich, who was ousted from the House for ethics violations and fined $300,000 would win. I'm not sure what the good folks in SC have been smoking.

    -> Florida will at least not be so stupid for Gingrich - at least I hope so.....Gingrich could never beat Obama - even I would not vote for him and I am a conservative Republican!

    -> South Carolina picks Newt? Paddle faster, I hear BANJOS!

    -> SC just voted for the only Speaker who was thrown out of Congress and sanctioned $300,000 for ethics violations by a 395-28 House vote; a draft dodger during the Vietnam war; and, a 2 time adulterer. And this from a state that touts itself as being religious and pro-military? Wow!

    -> LOL! South Carolina evangelicals picked Newt the adulterer! Such hypocrites!!!!!

    -> The White House is smiling tonight.
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    Jan 22, 2012 2:16 AM GMT
    grovetown1 saidI dont think this is a big deal. A six month long slugfest between two non-conservative Republicans should be interesting, like the contest between the President and Senator Clinton in 2007-2008.

    Besides that, the nation's first progressive was a Republican, so maybe the party is looking to its past for some kind of hope today. I personally think they are looking in the wrong place, but what the hell, right?


    I doubt present Republicans are looking to its past of progressive Republicans.

    If that were the case, John Huntsman would have still been in the race and would be in the lead. And I would apply the term "progressive" to Huntsman loosely.

    Mitt Romney is only getting the support because he is a formidable opponent to President Obama. For conservative voters, it's either pick someone who shares your ideology, or vote for someone who stands a good chance of winning. And you may not see Gingrich as being a conservative, but his base does.
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    Jan 22, 2012 2:28 AM GMT
    Maybe I should have made my second paragraph more clear.

    I nowhere stated that I think the GOP wants to nominate a progressive.

    I think they are looking to the past for hope, whether its Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater, or Theodore Roosevelt. The point in referencing TR was that both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney are very moderate Republicans, perhaps barely worth the label "Republican," and in any case not conservative at all. The point (perhaps buried too deep in the TR reference) is that the GOP is quite a diverse party, and while different segments of the party fight nasty internecine struggles for control, occasionally one segment (in this case, the moderates) dominate the debate despite the vocal segment (the conservatives).

    Hopefully that clears up my perspective.
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    Jan 22, 2012 2:35 AM GMT
    grovetown1 saidMaybe I should have made my second paragraph more clear.

    I nowhere stated that I think the GOP wants to nominate a progressive.

    I think they are looking to the past for hope, whether its Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater, or Theodore Roosevelt. The point in referencing TR was that both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney are very moderate Republicans, perhaps barely worth the label "Republican," and in any case not conservative at all. The point (perhaps buried too deep in the TR reference) is that the GOP is quite a diverse party, and while different segments of the party fight nasty internecine struggles for control, occasionally one segment (in this case, the moderates) dominate the debate despite the vocal segment (the conservatives).

    Hopefully that clears up my perspective.


    Fantastic. Go newt!!!!!!!
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    Jan 22, 2012 2:41 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]grovetown1 said[/cite]Maybe I should have made my second paragraph more clear.

    I nowhere stated that I think the GOP wants to nominate a progressive.

    I think they are looking to the past for hope, whether its Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater, or Theodore Roosevelt. The point in referencing TR was that both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney are very moderate Republicans, perhaps barely worth the label "Republican," and in any case not conservative at all. The point (perhaps buried too deep in the TR reference) is that the GOP is quite a diverse party, and while different segments of the party fight nasty internecine struggles for control, occasionally one segment (in this case, the moderates) dominate the debate despite the vocal segment (the conservatives).

    Hopefully that clears up my perspective. [/




    You miss the whole point of what's going on in the Repub nomination fight.

    And you're completely wrong in your description of what the modern day Repub party is all about.

    The whole point of what's going on in the Repub party now is that they DON'T want to nominate a moderate.

    That's why they hate Romney and his liberal Romneycare and have been desperately looking for an extreme right-wing conservative alternative.

    The Repubs are turning to Gingrinch because he's more conservative than Mitt Romneycare.

    THAT'S the point.

    The Repub party is overwhelming dominated by CONSERVATIVES who are desperate to nominate a far-right CONSERVATIVE Repub.

    NOT a moderate.

    And Gingrinch is a VERY conservative Repub.
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    Jan 22, 2012 3:23 AM GMT
    RickRick91 said[quote][cite]grovetown1 said[/cite]Maybe I should have made my second paragraph more clear.

    I nowhere stated that I think the GOP wants to nominate a progressive.

    I think they are looking to the past for hope, whether its Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater, or Theodore Roosevelt. The point in referencing TR was that both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney are very moderate Republicans, perhaps barely worth the label "Republican," and in any case not conservative at all. The point (perhaps buried too deep in the TR reference) is that the GOP is quite a diverse party, and while different segments of the party fight nasty internecine struggles for control, occasionally one segment (in this case, the moderates) dominate the debate despite the vocal segment (the conservatives).

    Hopefully that clears up my perspective. [/




    You miss the whole point of what's going on in the Repub nomination fight.

    And you're completely wrong in your description of what the modern day Repub party is all about.

    The whole point of what's going on in the Repub party now is that they DON'T want to nominate a moderate.

    That's why they hate Romney and his liberal Romneycare and have been desperately looking for an extreme right-wing conservative alternative.

    The Repubs are turning to Gingrinch because he's more conservative than Mitt Romneycare.

    THAT'S the point.

    The Repub party is overwhelming dominated by CONSERVATIVES who are desperate to nominate a far-right CONSERVATIVE Repub.

    NOT a moderate.

    And Gingrinch is a VERY conservative Repub.


    I respectfully disagree. I dont miss the point at all. I think the reason there has been a succession of candidates as an alternate to Gov Romney has been because conservative Republicans are trying to assert themselves, but failing because none of the alternatives are actually conservative, or because those alternative become untenable as a leader (Herman Cain).

    I agree with you that a large portion of the Republican party does not want to to nominate a moderate, but so far, that segment has not been successful in its attempts to assert itself enough through an honestly conservative candidate, to find or settle or draft a candidate.

    I disagree though that right now the conservative members of the party are the dominant members, despite being the better and more vociferous communicators. I view them as the vocal minority. If they were the dominant segment, a candidate would have arisen (through a draft or better campaigning) who can challenge and beat Gov Romney. Gov Hunstman was more conservative that Romney, but ran a very poor campaign. Gov Johnson is more conservative than Romney, but most Republicans dont understand how Johnson better represents conservatism than that statist Santorum. From Chris Christie to Olympia Snowe to Scott Brown, Nikki Hayley and Scott Walker, there is a wide variety of Republicans right now. I think there is a strong and growing conservative segment, very close to gaining complete control of the GOP, but its not yet accomplished.

    Gov Romney is obviously not a conservative. Gingrich isnt a conservative because while he incorporates important conservative tenants in his philosophy, he believes in a much too activist government to be a true conservative. He talks the talk because, like you, he can sense and see that the pulse of the GOP right now is the conservative segment.

    I dont think either of these men are conservative. I think at this point, conservative are choosing the "lesser of two weevils" as Jack Aubrey would say, and settling with Gingrich, at least in the Palmetto State.