Italian Coffee Makers.. HELP!

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    Jan 22, 2012 9:27 AM GMT
    What the hell am I doing wrong?

    My sister got us one of these for X-mas:

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    But I keep fecking it up... when I fillled the whole thing with coffee, no water would come out and it just boiled out underneath... when I put only a spoon of coffee, it also does the same thing.. even when I fill the bottom part FULL of water... I now have to refill it once to get any coffee at the top..

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  • davemancheste...

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    Jan 22, 2012 5:40 PM GMT
    I use one of these all the time and love it:
    1. Fill bottom section with water to just below lip/rim.
    2.Fill middle section full of coffee- don't pack this down, leave the grounds loose.
    3. Put on hob/ring and wait for water to boil- the coffee will come to the top section. Take it off hob immediately otherwise the coffee will burn.
    4. An average size one will make enough espresso for 4 people. I add 1 part hot water/1 espresso/dash of milk.
    Perfecto. Great coffee every time
    Let me know how it goes
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    Jan 22, 2012 6:03 PM GMT
    I don't think you're supposed to fill it higher than the valve and as well make sure that the top and bottom are fitted securly together.. it could be a bad gasket.

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    Jan 22, 2012 6:35 PM GMT
    Yes, just fill with water to the valve. I put my drip grind coffee in a grinder for a quick buzz so that it is finer and then use it in the funnel basket for this coffeemaker.

    Another little trick: heat the pot on medium heat, not high. Let it take time to build up the steam that will then come up through the grounds.

    If the pot is new a bad gasket is unlikely, but you can easily tell that if there is lots of steam coming out where the two halves are screwed together.

    This is a knockout little coffee pot. Once you get used to it, you will love it. I used to use mine to make one strong cup that got me through the morning commute.
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    Jan 22, 2012 6:39 PM GMT
    I dont use mine anymore. I got a nespresso machine and I love it.
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    Jan 22, 2012 6:43 PM GMT
    Really, there's not a lot that can go wrong. If you don't clean out all of the old grounds carefully, the gasket might not seal.
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    Jan 22, 2012 7:19 PM GMT
    I found a coarse grind of the beans was necessary. More like a breadcrumb than a fine powder.
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    Jan 22, 2012 7:20 PM GMT
    Didn't you read my moka pot thread? icon_evil.gif
  • mindandmuscle

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    Jan 22, 2012 8:26 PM GMT
    I've tried a lot of different ways of making coffee and this is my favorite. I use my Bialetti every day! I have the 1 cup model, here's how I use it:

    1) Fill the bottom half up to the line on the inside with cold water.

    2) Drop the coffee holder that looks like a funnel into the opening on the base. If the water comes up over the holes in the coffee holder, you have too much water in the base.

    3) Put 1 heaping tablespoon fine ground ESPRESSO coffee in the coffee holder (I like cafe Bustelo). Spread out coffee in holder so it's fairly even.

    4) Screw on top half of coffee maker

    5) Place on medium-high heat.

    6) Listen for the sound of the coffee boiling up from bottom to top. Coffee is finished when the sound stops.

    7) Pour and enjoy!

    One last note, when you clean it after it's cooled, the coffee should have formed a little "cake" at the top of the coffee holder. Although the instructions may seem complicated, it's really very easy and well worth it!icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 22, 2012 8:37 PM GMT
    now just look at all you coffee aficionados and connoisseurs!icon_razz.gif

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    Jan 22, 2012 8:40 PM GMT
    I've always preferred my moka pot to my espresso machine. In fact I can't remember the last time I used my espresso machine. But moka pots are faster, easier to use, and easier to clean.
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    Jan 22, 2012 8:50 PM GMT
    This thread inspired me to whip out my moka pot and whip myself up a nice Lungo. :-)
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    Jan 22, 2012 9:29 PM GMT
    Shawnathan saidThis is on my list of things to buy for myself. I really do not understand drip coffee, is it just a North American thing?

    Any suggestions for brands? (Bialetti/Bodum/Other?)


    Moka pots like these are originally Italian (the Bialleti brand). They are common in Mediterranean countries and Argentina. The first one I had my mom bought years ago in Spain.

    The "North American" way of brewing coffee is usually through an electric coffee maker.
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    Jan 22, 2012 9:32 PM GMT
    islndmscle saidnow just look at all you coffee aficionados and connoisseurs!icon_razz.gif

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    Jan 22, 2012 9:34 PM GMT
    Shawnathan saidThis is on my list of things to buy for myself. I really do not understand drip coffee, is it just a North American thing?

    Any suggestions for brands? (Bialetti/Bodum/Other?)


    The best coffee maker I actually have is a Vietnamese one.. its an über-slow drip method.. but I have Italian espresso in my freezer, and found that that type of grind does not work with Vietnamese drip.. for Vietnamese drip, the Vietnamese people use their own grind, which is impossible to find on the island.. so for me.. Italian is the bestest available icon_smile.gif
  • mindandmuscle

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    Jan 22, 2012 9:40 PM GMT
    I really like the Bialetti brand, it's classic retro design looks great on your stove even when you're not using it!
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    Jan 22, 2012 9:40 PM GMT
    GreenHopper said
    Shawnathan saidThis is on my list of things to buy for myself. I really do not understand drip coffee, is it just a North American thing?

    Any suggestions for brands? (Bialetti/Bodum/Other?)


    The best coffee maker I actually have is a Vietnamese one.. its an über-slow drip method.. but I have Italian espresso in my freezer, and found that that type of grind does not work with Vietnamese drip.. for Vietnamese drip, the Vietnamese people use their own grind, which is impossible to find on the island.. so for me.. Italian is the bestest available icon_smile.gif


    I have one of those too! The Vietnamese restaurants here all brew the Café du Monde brand with chicory. Yes, every single Vietnamese restaurant (at least in Virginia and DC!) uses that exact same coffee. That's what I use too along with a good amount of sweetened condensed milk.
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    Jan 22, 2012 9:46 PM GMT
    Shawnathan saidThis is on my list of things to buy for myself. I really do not understand drip coffee, is it just a North American thing?

    Any suggestions for brands? (Bialetti/Bodum/Other?)
    I have the Bodum..

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    It works well and looks good. My only complaint is that the water reservoir has etchings/grooves on the bottom for some reason. And this makes it incredibly easy for hard water calcium to build up and cling to. I've tried soaking in vinegar but it doesn't work. So I'd probably recommend the Bialetti instead.
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    Jan 22, 2012 9:49 PM GMT
    xrichx said
    Shawnathan saidThis is on my list of things to buy for myself. I really do not understand drip coffee, is it just a North American thing?

    Any suggestions for brands? (Bialetti/Bodum/Other?)
    I have the Bodum..

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    It works well and looks good. My only complaint is that the water reservoir has etchings/grooves on the bottom for some reason. And this makes it incredibly easy for hard water calcium to build up and cling to. I've tried soaking in vinegar but it doesn't work. So I'd probably recommend the Bialetti instead.


    Soaking in vinegar alone won't do the trick. Heat is your friend. You have to actually brew either straight vinegar or a solution of water and vinegar to clean off the calcium more effectively. It sometimes takes 3 or 4 rounds followed by brewing just straight water.
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    Jan 22, 2012 10:04 PM GMT
    pocketnico said
    Soaking in vinegar alone won't do the trick. Heat is your friend. You have to actually brew either straight vinegar or a solution of water and vinegar to clean off the calcium more effectively. It sometimes takes 3 or 4 rounds followed by brewing just straight water.
    Yeah, I tried water/vinegar and brought it to a boil without the top. I think next time I'll try to do an actual brew with pure vinegar.
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    Jan 22, 2012 10:10 PM GMT
    Espresso is the only style of coffee I drink, so I don't have a coffee maker or anything like that. I just have my moka pot on my stove. I do have an espresso machine, but I don't use it, so I keep it in storage. I've been thinking about selling it or giving it as a gift to a friend since it's still practically new. I've used it I think three times at most.
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    Jan 22, 2012 10:34 PM GMT
    Shawnathan said
    Come to my lab. I have some concentrated acetic acid and if that doesn't work I have some strong acids, but they're for last resort. Just don't tell our technician, ok?
    LOL. I saw a coffee machine cleaner liquid at the store and the ingredients mentioned some type of acid. I might try that if I get desperate.

    Shawnathan said
    I love the coffee, from moka pots, I've just never had one. Right now I drink mostly press coffee.

    By drip coffee, I mean the electric ones, which make sense for NA, because you can easily make such large quantities, which in NA is generally more important than quality. They are big and take up precious counter space, but they are convenient for company.
    I haven't touched my French press in ages, since getting the moka. Personally, I think the moka is great for coffee for two. But if you have a large gathering, a manual drip coffee maker, a metal style filter, and a double wall carafe would be the next best thing. I'm probably gonna get one of these porcelain manual coffee makers eventually.

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    Jan 22, 2012 10:48 PM GMT
    Health benefits of Coffee from WebMD http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/coffee-new-health-food

    Research has shown that paper-filtered coffee is better for you. Sorry guys.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6242467/ns/health-heart_health/t/coffee-cholesterol/#.TxyQa4F17OM
    http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/foods/coffee/

    Research in the Netherlands on Diterpenes. (trapped by paper filters0
    http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev.nutr.17.1.305?journalCode=nutr


    I use a Jura Capressa machine. Expect to pay at least $500 for a super-automatic, even on Ebay.

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    Jan 22, 2012 10:58 PM GMT
    Speaking of coffee. Does anyone else find Starbucks "Pike Place Roast" more inclined to take a nap afterwards?

    Its worse than Decaf.

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    Jan 22, 2012 11:01 PM GMT
    Shawnathan said
    Booo, who cares about science?


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