Anyone experience allergic reactions to artificial/non-sugar sweeteners?

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    Jan 23, 2012 6:18 AM GMT
    Without going into details in the past 2 years, I seem to be allergic to Sucralose (Splenda) and Stevia. I typically shun artificial sweeteners anyway, but today, it seems like they are in everything. For me, the reaction has been flare-up in my eyes, where they turn insanely bloodshot. A previous reaction was also hives.

    Everything I buy now, I have to check to make sure neither Sucralose or Stevia are in there ,or hidden as a different name. Usually, one drink or something won't do anything to me, but if it's something I'll consume long-term I need to be careful.

    I just realized today that C4, the pre-workout, has Sucralose. The daily dosage is pretty low, but I believe it's built up in my system. Not sure why, but I never bothered to look at the ingredients before and I've been taking it for about 60 days.

    Also, my eyes completely flared up today. I had no idea why and started to panic. I was drinking Tropicana 50 tonight and I looked at the ingredients and it has Pure Via, or extract from the stevia plant.

    Additionally, I finally realized the Emergen-C i've been taking the past few days also has stevia extract. Ugh! Nothing is safe!!

    Anyone else have adverse effects to these two products?

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    Jan 23, 2012 7:34 AM GMT
    That's strange. I've always thought Splenda was supposed to be "safer" since it's derived from actual sugar. I used to use Splenda with my coffee and never got any reactions. I stopped recently because for some reason it just doesn't taste good to me anymore. I think my taste buds changed or something. I believe my protein and MRP shakes have sucralose.. No reactions from those either.
  • calibro

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    Jan 23, 2012 8:19 AM GMT
    if you consider me going "blah, who put artificial sweeteners in my dessert!" and spitting out the food at the waiter, then yes.
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    Jan 23, 2012 8:34 AM GMT
    LOL@calibro.

    Sucralose just scares me the way it was "discovered" in 1976. I believe it was originally marketed as "made from sugar", when in fact, it's really chemicals, especially chlorine.

    As far as extract of stevia, it is natural, but, if you have allergies to ragweed, then this can affect tolerance of this.
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    Jan 23, 2012 8:37 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said

    I make vegetable smoothies that contain a lot of greens which can lend to a bitter tasting drink. However, I add a few droplets of liquid Stevia extract and it makes it very tolerable for me.



    If I need to add sweetness to a smoothie, my oatmeal, or most things, I've been using agave nectar.

    I actually find both Sucralose and stevia extract way too sweet for my liking anyway. I wish I would have read the ingredients list on things I've bought recently.
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    Jan 23, 2012 9:23 AM GMT
    EastCoastNAZ said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said

    I make vegetable smoothies that contain a lot of greens which can lend to a bitter tasting drink. However, I add a few droplets of liquid Stevia extract and it makes it very tolerable for me.



    If I need to add sweetness to a smoothie, my oatmeal, or most things, I've been using agave nectar.

    I actually find both Sucralose and stevia extract way too sweet for my liking anyway. I wish I would have read the ingredients list on things I've bought recently.


    that's my big thing with artificial sweeteners. i don't try to eat a lot of sugar, but if i do eat some, i want the real thing just like i want real butter. aside from the health issues, artificial sweeteners are simply too sweet for the ratio you use. sucralose (splenda) is 600 times sweeter than regular sugar. and yes, made from sugar means sugar that is chlorinated.
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    Jan 23, 2012 12:57 PM GMT
    I actually get headaches and sometimes it upsets my stomach if I do artificial sweeteners. What i've read about the way they metabolize has caused me to avoid them as I believe they are not so great in the long run. Our bodies are all different- just listen to what yours is saying and if its troublesome leave it out.
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    Jan 23, 2012 1:08 PM GMT
    Splenda and aspartame are sooo acidic forming. It floors me that people out there think drinking diet pop and sugar free fat free foods will make them lose weight.
    Stevia is a natural sweetener, (basically a leaf ground up) has no effect on blood sugar levels. But if you are feeling you have a sensitivity to it then I guess avoid it.

    Better options:

    Coconut palm nectar; extremely low glycemic and packed with trace minerals.
    Yacon syrup; mostly fibre and super sweet, it's also a prebiotic meaning it is food for your intestinal flora.
    Organic maple syrup: actually way better for your body to handle than agave (pure fructose = fatty liver)
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    Jan 23, 2012 2:31 PM GMT
    vegemike saidSplenda and aspartame are sooo acidic forming. It floors me that people out there think drinking diet pop and sugar free fat free foods will make them lose weight.


    Actually, I drank diet soda during my 85 lbs. weight loss I've incurred the last two years. And I still do. Now, it doesn't necessarily make you lose weight per se. It's simply devoid of caloric content from lack of any macronutrients (fat, protein, carbs).
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    Jan 23, 2012 2:37 PM GMT
    It's all a bunch of chemicals.... This is why I either drink my coffee black or put real sugar in it.

    Besides, NutraSweet gives me a headache every time.
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    Jan 23, 2012 2:39 PM GMT
    Splenda is poisonous for two reasons. The first being that the reason it isn't absorbed as calories is because it's been bonded with Chlorine. Meaning you're pumping yourself full of chlorine to avoid eating sugar.

    Secondly, Splenda and Aspartame - really any artificial sweetener besides Stevia - act like ecstasy. They seem sweet and about 10-20x as sweet because they over-excite the sweetness receptors in the brain... and can fry them out.
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    Jan 23, 2012 3:15 PM GMT
    Like others have said and I have read, Splenda and other artificial sweeteners, other than Stevia products, are not good for you. It would be better to have a tiny amt of sugar, raw as possible , than them. And raw honey is a better alternative. Limit qty and they are far healthier. Diet sodas are not healthy in the least.
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    Jan 23, 2012 3:42 PM GMT
    EastCoastNAZ saidWithout going into details in the past 2 years, I seem to be allergic to Sucralose (Splenda) and Stevia.



    Make sure you are actually using stevia and not Truvia. Truvia is not natural, pure stevia but chemically derived from genetically modified stevia and other plants into the chemical rebaudioside A.
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    Jan 23, 2012 4:01 PM GMT
    I think aspartame messes with your thyroid.

    Check out this site.

    http://www.sweetpoison.com/
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    Jan 23, 2012 4:26 PM GMT
    Scotticus said
    vegemike saidSplenda and aspartame are sooo acidic forming. It floors me that people out there think drinking diet pop and sugar free fat free foods will make them lose weight.


    Actually, I drank diet soda during my 85 lbs. weight loss I've incurred the last two years. And I still do. Now, it doesn't necessarily make you lose weight per se. It's simply devoid of caloric content from lack of any macronutrients (fat, protein, carbs).




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    Jan 23, 2012 4:38 PM GMT
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    EastCoastNAZ saidWithout going into details in the past 2 years, I seem to be allergic to Sucralose (Splenda) and Stevia.



    Make sure you are actually using stevia and not Truvia. Truvia is not natural, pure stevia but chemically derived from genetically modified stevia and other plants into the chemical rebaudioside A.


    True, it was Truvia and/or Pure Via that I was ingesting. Both are chemically enhanced and not pure Stevia like Stevia in the Raw or Sweetleaf. Either way, I'm avoiding it.
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    Jan 23, 2012 5:01 PM GMT
    Larkin saidSplenda is poisonous for two reasons. The first being that the reason it isn't absorbed as calories is because it's been bonded with Chlorine. Meaning you're pumping yourself full of chlorine to avoid eating sugar.


    Uh, we depend on consuming chlorine including salt (sodium chloride) and chlorinated drinking water. I don't subscribe to the hype.

    Considering the desperate battle between the sugar industry and the Splenda manufacturer, you definitely have to vet the source of the research study. If for no other reason, the manufacturing process enhances the sweetening effect about 2.5 times by weight. Shrinking market?

    If there is a disadvantage:
    The chemical passes right through the body, then through sewage treatment systems and out into surface and ground waters looking the same as it did when it was stirred into a cup of coffee.

    http://news.discovery.com/earth/artificial-sweetener-not-removed-by-sewage-treatment-110623.html

    The legal battles alone are fascinating http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Regulation/Sugar-industry-and-Splenda-embark-on-new-battle

    A large number of Americans get their drinking water from the Mississippi river. Something has to be done to it. icon_rolleyes.gif

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucralose

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    Jan 23, 2012 5:02 PM GMT
    I have light corn allergies. Yeah, corn is in everything, I know.

    Nutrasweet gives me sinus problems if I drink more than two diet cokes in a day. But, so do ED drugs. I just deal with it. icon_redface.gificon_redface.gificon_redface.gificon_cool.gif
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    Jan 23, 2012 5:18 PM GMT
    ^^Great points, Robert. But something just scares me knowing that a product like table sugar is essentially bonded with a chemical that makes it indigestible. Our bodies weren't designed that way.

    Everytime I think of artificial/processed foods, I think of Food, Inc. The scene where they talk about cows being fed corn instead of grass, and the guy putting his hand into a cow's stomach to show all the undigested corn. A cow would never naturally eat corn and its bodies are not properly equipped to digest it properly, as that scene was demonstrating.

    I feel the same way about our bodies. Our bodies were equipped to digest certain natural foods and all these artificial/processed foods are killing us slowly.
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    Jan 23, 2012 5:35 PM GMT
    some stevia > ie stevia in the raw has dextrose added to it . so in fact it is not PURE stevia .
    Allergy to ragweed and related plants: Stevia might cause an allergic reaction in people who are sensitive to the Asteraceae/Compositae family of plants. This family includes ragweed, chrysanthemums, marigolds, daisies, and many other plants.
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    Jan 23, 2012 5:55 PM GMT
    EastCoastNAZ said^^Great points, Robert. But something just scares me knowing that a product like table sugar is essentially bonded with a chemical that makes it indigestible. Our bodies weren't designed that way.

    Everytime I think of artificial/processed foods, I think of Food, Inc. The scene where they talk about cows being fed corn instead of grass, and the guy putting his hand into a cow's stomach to show all the undigested corn. A cow would never naturally eat corn and its bodies are not properly equipped to digest it properly, as that scene was demonstrating.

    I feel the same way about our bodies. Our bodies were equipped to digest certain natural foods and all these artificial/processed foods are killing us slowly.


    Well, processed foods without moderation won't kill you as much as it will make us fat then kill us.

    We've been eating things we can't digest since Adam and Eve.

    That's one reason why we have an appendix.

    The problem comes when our bodies *does* digest/break things down and absorb what is there or store it as fuel.
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    Jan 23, 2012 8:34 PM GMT
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    vegemike saidSplenda and aspartame are sooo acidic forming. It floors me that people out there think drinking diet pop and sugar free fat free foods will make them lose weight.


    Actually, I drank diet soda during my 85 lbs. weight loss I've incurred the last two years. And I still do. Now, it doesn't necessarily make you lose weight per se. It's simply devoid of caloric content from lack of any macronutrients (fat, protein, carbs).






    What the heck is that supposed to mean!? icon_confused.gif
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    Jan 23, 2012 10:53 PM GMT
    So as it turns out, your body is pretty efficient at letting go of excess electrolytes through urine. Electrolytes which include the excess chloride ions from the artificial sweetners.

    As it also turns out, since your body can not digest the artificial sweetners, your body also will not have chloride ion radicals coming off of the artificial sweetners to roam free on the range. Even if somehow, the chloride ions were released, any choloride ions not used by the body, are excreted in urine. The same thing that happens to all the other excess vitamins and electrolytes people take=expensive urine.

    Sucralose does not change appetite levels. Also, it does not stimulate weight gain, becuase insulin that stimulates fatty acid synthesis is not released upon consumption of sucralose. It may be that people who consume sucralose just can't control their food cravings so the consume more food.

    I couldn't find anything beyond personal stories about food allergies to artificial sweetner. So it maybe, that you have developed an allergy to something else.
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    Jan 23, 2012 10:58 PM GMT
    commoncoll saidSo as it turns out, your body is pretty efficient at letting go of excess electrolytes through urine. Electrolytes which include the excess chloride ions from the artificial sweetners.

    As it also turns out, since your body can not digest the artificial sweetners, your body also will not have chloride ion radicals coming off of the artificial sweetners to roam free on the range. Even if somehow, the chloride ions were released, any choloride ions not used by the body, are excreted in urine. The same thing that happens to all the other excess vitamins and electrolytes people take=expensive urine.

    Also sucralose does not stimulate weight gain, becuase insulin that stimulates fatty acid synthesis is not released upon consumption of sucralose. It may be that people who consume sucralose just can't control their food cravings so the consume more food.



    There appears to be evidence, however, that there is a percentage of the sucralose that is absorbed by the body, despite what initial information claims.

    Also, Sucralose alone may not stimulate weight gain, but the non-release of insulin does not create a feeling of satiety, therefore, making it difficult for one to feel full.
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    Jan 23, 2012 11:08 PM GMT
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    There appears to be evidence, however, that there is a percentage of the sucralose that is absorbed by the body, despite what initial information claims.

    Also, Sucralose alone may not stimulate weight gain, but the non-release of insulin does not create a feeling of satiety, therefore, making it difficult for one to feel full.

    Sucralose is shown to be using GLUT 2 transporters in mice. Such results have not been replicated in humans. In several recent studies (published within the last two years) I saw on Google Scholar and PubMed, the conclusion was that no differences were seen in blood glucose or other transporters.