Former Democratic Senator Chris Dodd, now MPAA head threatens to withdraw support for politicians who did not support SOPA/PIPA

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    Jan 23, 2012 7:25 PM GMT
    Liberals love to make hay of the idea that it is Republicans who are bought and paid for rather than their Democratic/liberal counterparts who more directly advocating influencing/writing legislation/regulation and direct interventions in the economy.

    To their credit, a number of liberal commentators have also noted online that this is an issue that was handed to the Republicans - and it was the Republicans who ultimately crushed both bills as they currently are while heaping disdain on Democrats.

    http://parislemon.com/post/16246725828/those-who-count-on-quote-hollywood-for-support

    Chris Dodd's quote:

    "Those who count on quote ‘Hollywood’ for support need to understand that this industry is watching very carefully who’s going to stand up for them when their job is at stake. Don’t ask me to write a check for you when you think your job is at risk and then don’t pay any attention to me when my job is at stake."
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    Jan 23, 2012 7:28 PM GMT
    Countrywide Chris is giving the Democrats a difficult choice. Could they all try voting 'Present' or maybe try delaying the vote until after the election?
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    socalfitness saidCountrywide Chris is giving the Democrats a difficult choice. Could they all try voting 'Present' or maybe try delaying the vote until after the election?


    Here's the public reaction of some to that quote:

    "WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: Investigate Chris Dodd and the MPAA for bribery after he publicly admited to bribing politicans to pass legislation."

    https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/investigate-chris-dodd-and-mpaa-bribery-after-he-publicly-admited-bribing-politicans-pass/DffX0YQv
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    Jan 23, 2012 7:43 PM GMT
    Chris Dodd was a well known friend of big banking and now he's a lobbyist for the MPAA. Why is this surprising to anyone?
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    Christian73 saidChris Dodd was a well known friend of big banking and now he's a lobbyist for the MPAA. Why is this surprising to anyone?


    Yes not surprising that the Democrats have found themselves on the wrong side of an important issue that's important to a lot of Americans.

    When you get technology sites writing pretty damning articles about Democrats, you know there's an issue:

    "Throwing Hollywood under the bus could pay dividends for GOP"
    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/throwing-hollywood-under-the-bus-could-pay-dividends-for-gop.ars
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    Christian73 saidChris Dodd was a well known friend of big banking and now he's a lobbyist for the MPAA. Why is this surprising to anyone?


    Yes not surprising that the Democrats have found themselves on the wrong side of an important issue that's important to a lot of Americans.

    When you get technology sites writing pretty damning articles about Democrats, you know there's an issue:

    "Throwing Hollywood under the bus could pay dividends for GOP"
    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/throwing-hollywood-under-the-bus-could-pay-dividends-for-gop.ars


    More delusions from websites no one's ever heard of. We'll ignore the fact that Internet freedom is actually a project of the left... icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Christian73 saidChris Dodd was a well known friend of big banking and now he's a lobbyist for the MPAA. Why is this surprising to anyone?


    Yes not surprising that the Democrats have found themselves on the wrong side of an important issue that's important to a lot of Americans.

    When you get technology sites writing pretty damning articles about Democrats, you know there's an issue:

    "Throwing Hollywood under the bus could pay dividends for GOP"
    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/throwing-hollywood-under-the-bus-could-pay-dividends-for-gop.ars


    More delusions from websites no one's ever heard of. We'll ignore the fact that Internet freedom is actually a project of the left... icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yeah if that makes you feel better at night. If it helps, by that same idea, don't forget that things like the dismantling of slavery were projects of the right as well icon_wink.gif
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    Christian73 said
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    Christian73 saidChris Dodd was a well known friend of big banking and now he's a lobbyist for the MPAA. Why is this surprising to anyone?


    Yes not surprising that the Democrats have found themselves on the wrong side of an important issue that's important to a lot of Americans.

    When you get technology sites writing pretty damning articles about Democrats, you know there's an issue:

    "Throwing Hollywood under the bus could pay dividends for GOP"
    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/throwing-hollywood-under-the-bus-could-pay-dividends-for-gop.ars


    More delusions from websites no one's ever heard of. We'll ignore the fact that Internet freedom is actually a project of the left... icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yeah if that makes you feel better at night. If it helps, by that same idea, don't forget that things like the dismantling of slavery were projects of the right as well icon_wink.gif


    Incidentally, you've never heard of ars technica but anyone who follows tech has. Which is perhaps more of a condemnation of your ignorance to these issues and that of the Democrats more broadly.
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    Christian73 said
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    Christian73 saidChris Dodd was a well known friend of big banking and now he's a lobbyist for the MPAA. Why is this surprising to anyone?


    Yes not surprising that the Democrats have found themselves on the wrong side of an important issue that's important to a lot of Americans.

    When you get technology sites writing pretty damning articles about Democrats, you know there's an issue:

    "Throwing Hollywood under the bus could pay dividends for GOP"
    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/throwing-hollywood-under-the-bus-could-pay-dividends-for-gop.ars


    More delusions from websites no one's ever heard of. We'll ignore the fact that Internet freedom is actually a project of the left... icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yeah if that makes you feel better at night. If it helps, by that same idea, don't forget that things like the dismantling of slavery were projects of the right as well icon_wink.gif


    No. It wasn't. Lincoln was a Republican but that was long before the Southern strategy... Read a history book.
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    Jan 23, 2012 8:38 PM GMT
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    Christian73 said
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    Christian73 saidChris Dodd was a well known friend of big banking and now he's a lobbyist for the MPAA. Why is this surprising to anyone?


    Yes not surprising that the Democrats have found themselves on the wrong side of an important issue that's important to a lot of Americans.

    When you get technology sites writing pretty damning articles about Democrats, you know there's an issue:

    "Throwing Hollywood under the bus could pay dividends for GOP"
    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/throwing-hollywood-under-the-bus-could-pay-dividends-for-gop.ars


    More delusions from websites no one's ever heard of. We'll ignore the fact that Internet freedom is actually a project of the left... icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yeah if that makes you feel better at night. If it helps, by that same idea, don't forget that things like the dismantling of slavery were projects of the right as well icon_wink.gif


    Incidentally, you've never heard of ars technica but anyone who follows tech has. Which is perhaps more of a condemnation of your ignorance to these issues and that of the Democrats more broadly.


    We'll file this under "more claims that Riddler makes without even rudimentary proof, while getting historical American facts completely wrong."
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    Jan 23, 2012 8:40 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
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    Christian73 said
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    Christian73 saidChris Dodd was a well known friend of big banking and now he's a lobbyist for the MPAA. Why is this surprising to anyone?


    Yes not surprising that the Democrats have found themselves on the wrong side of an important issue that's important to a lot of Americans.

    When you get technology sites writing pretty damning articles about Democrats, you know there's an issue:

    "Throwing Hollywood under the bus could pay dividends for GOP"
    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/throwing-hollywood-under-the-bus-could-pay-dividends-for-gop.ars


    More delusions from websites no one's ever heard of. We'll ignore the fact that Internet freedom is actually a project of the left... icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yeah if that makes you feel better at night. If it helps, by that same idea, don't forget that things like the dismantling of slavery were projects of the right as well icon_wink.gif


    Incidentally, you've never heard of ars technica but anyone who follows tech has. Which is perhaps more of a condemnation of your ignorance to these issues and that of the Democrats more broadly.


    We'll file this under "more claims that Riddler makes without even rudimentary proof, while getting historical American facts completely wrong."


    Once again on the wrong side of both history and the facts. You don't need to believe me - ask anyone who follows tech - or even the readership of ars technica. Either way - I don't really care. The reality is that this is a much bigger deal than you think it is and hopefully it's pivotal.
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    Jan 23, 2012 8:43 PM GMT
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    Christian73 said
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    Christian73 said
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    Christian73 saidChris Dodd was a well known friend of big banking and now he's a lobbyist for the MPAA. Why is this surprising to anyone?


    Yes not surprising that the Democrats have found themselves on the wrong side of an important issue that's important to a lot of Americans.

    When you get technology sites writing pretty damning articles about Democrats, you know there's an issue:

    "Throwing Hollywood under the bus could pay dividends for GOP"
    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/throwing-hollywood-under-the-bus-could-pay-dividends-for-gop.ars


    More delusions from websites no one's ever heard of. We'll ignore the fact that Internet freedom is actually a project of the left... icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yeah if that makes you feel better at night. If it helps, by that same idea, don't forget that things like the dismantling of slavery were projects of the right as well icon_wink.gif


    Incidentally, you've never heard of ars technica but anyone who follows tech has. Which is perhaps more of a condemnation of your ignorance to these issues and that of the Democrats more broadly.


    We'll file this under "more claims that Riddler makes without even rudimentary proof, while getting historical American facts completely wrong."


    Once again on the wrong side of both history and the facts. You don't need to believe me - ask anyone who follows tech - or even the readership of ars technica. Either way - I don't really care. The reality is that this is a much bigger deal than you think it is and hopefully it's pivotal.


    Well we all know what a seer you are when it comes to American politics and you prove it again here by pretending the Republicans led on this because Chris Dodd is a lobbyist. It's just silly.
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    Christian73 saidChris Dodd was a well known friend of big banking and now he's a lobbyist for the MPAA. Why is this surprising to anyone?


    Yes not surprising that the Democrats have found themselves on the wrong side of an important issue that's important to a lot of Americans.

    When you get technology sites writing pretty damning articles about Democrats, you know there's an issue:

    "Throwing Hollywood under the bus could pay dividends for GOP"
    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/throwing-hollywood-under-the-bus-could-pay-dividends-for-gop.ars


    More delusions from websites no one's ever heard of. We'll ignore the fact that Internet freedom is actually a project of the left... icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yeah if that makes you feel better at night. If it helps, by that same idea, don't forget that things like the dismantling of slavery were projects of the right as well icon_wink.gif


    Incidentally, you've never heard of ars technica but anyone who follows tech has. Which is perhaps more of a condemnation of your ignorance to these issues and that of the Democrats more broadly.


    We'll file this under "more claims that Riddler makes without even rudimentary proof, while getting historical American facts completely wrong."


    Once again on the wrong side of both history and the facts. You don't need to believe me - ask anyone who follows tech - or even the readership of ars technica. Either way - I don't really care. The reality is that this is a much bigger deal than you think it is and hopefully it's pivotal.


    Well we all know what a seer you are when it comes to American politics and you prove it again here by pretending the Republicans led on this because Chris Dodd is a lobbyist. It's just silly.


    Yeah go with that - that I am pretending the Republicans led on this... lol
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    Jan 23, 2012 8:45 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidChris Dodd was a well known friend of big banking and now he's a lobbyist for the MPAA. Why is this surprising to anyone?


    Yes not surprising that the Democrats have found themselves on the wrong side of an important issue that's important to a lot of Americans.

    When you get technology sites writing pretty damning articles about Democrats, you know there's an issue:

    "Throwing Hollywood under the bus could pay dividends for GOP"
    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/throwing-hollywood-under-the-bus-could-pay-dividends-for-gop.ars


    More delusions from websites no one's ever heard of. We'll ignore the fact that Internet freedom is actually a project of the left... icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yeah if that makes you feel better at night. If it helps, by that same idea, don't forget that things like the dismantling of slavery were projects of the right as well icon_wink.gif


    Incidentally, you've never heard of ars technica but anyone who follows tech has. Which is perhaps more of a condemnation of your ignorance to these issues and that of the Democrats more broadly.


    We'll file this under "more claims that Riddler makes without even rudimentary proof, while getting historical American facts completely wrong."


    Once again on the wrong side of both history and the facts. You don't need to believe me - ask anyone who follows tech - or even the readership of ars technica. Either way - I don't really care. The reality is that this is a much bigger deal than you think it is and hopefully it's pivotal.


    Well we all know what a seer you are when it comes to American politics and you prove it again here by pretending the Republicans led on this because Chris Dodd is a lobbyist. It's just silly.


    Yeah go with that - that I am pretending the Republicans led on this... lol


    If you had proof otherwise, you would have offered it and gloated with it. So please do when you find it. icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 23, 2012 8:48 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidChris Dodd was a well known friend of big banking and now he's a lobbyist for the MPAA. Why is this surprising to anyone?


    Yes not surprising that the Democrats have found themselves on the wrong side of an important issue that's important to a lot of Americans.

    When you get technology sites writing pretty damning articles about Democrats, you know there's an issue:

    "Throwing Hollywood under the bus could pay dividends for GOP"
    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/throwing-hollywood-under-the-bus-could-pay-dividends-for-gop.ars


    More delusions from websites no one's ever heard of. We'll ignore the fact that Internet freedom is actually a project of the left... icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yeah if that makes you feel better at night. If it helps, by that same idea, don't forget that things like the dismantling of slavery were projects of the right as well icon_wink.gif


    Incidentally, you've never heard of ars technica but anyone who follows tech has. Which is perhaps more of a condemnation of your ignorance to these issues and that of the Democrats more broadly.


    We'll file this under "more claims that Riddler makes without even rudimentary proof, while getting historical American facts completely wrong."


    Once again on the wrong side of both history and the facts. You don't need to believe me - ask anyone who follows tech - or even the readership of ars technica. Either way - I don't really care. The reality is that this is a much bigger deal than you think it is and hopefully it's pivotal.


    Well we all know what a seer you are when it comes to American politics and you prove it again here by pretending the Republicans led on this because Chris Dodd is a lobbyist. It's just silly.


    Yeah go with that - that I am pretending the Republicans led on this... lol


    If you had proof otherwise, you would have offered it and gloated with it. So please do when you find it. icon_lol.gif


    I'm sorry you don't bother to um read... icon_rolleyes.gif - but run with that. You know what - there's ample evidence out there - if you choose not to believe me on that - including one influential article that I posted at least from the tech community, then that's your business icon_wink.gif
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    riddler78 saidI'm sorry you don't bother to um read... icon_rolleyes.gif - but run with that. You know what - there's ample evidence out there - if you choose not to believe me on that - including one influential article that I posted at least from the tech community, then that's your business icon_wink.gif


    Late to the party as usual. There have been left wing coalitions working against Internet censorship for about 15 years, so one op-ed by a "Reason" writer is not going to change history... icon_lol.gif
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    riddler78 saidI'm sorry you don't bother to um read... icon_rolleyes.gif - but run with that. You know what - there's ample evidence out there - if you choose not to believe me on that - including one influential article that I posted at least from the tech community, then that's your business icon_wink.gif


    Late to the party as usual. There have been left wing coalitions working against Internet censorship for about 15 years, so one op-ed by a "Reason" writer is not going to change history... icon_lol.gif


    Yes - and yet, it is the Republicans who have changed their positions to effectively throw Hollywood under the bus - and so yes, they have led - but again, that's your prerogative - but it's perhaps indicative that you're so defensive on this issue.
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    Jan 23, 2012 8:57 PM GMT
    Fuck Chris Dodd !!! Dodd's support be damned, who needs it and who needs people of his ilk ? Whether Dem or Repub, this revolving door from Senate to G Damn lobbyists is working against the interests of the US Citizens. There's plenty of evidence that Chris Dodd is just as bought and paid for as any candidate like Gingrich and we need to send them all a strong message that they are not welcome lobbying in our halls of congress.

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    (Wiki- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act#Legislators)

    Legislators - (For)The Stop Online Piracy Act was introduced by Representative Lamar Smith (R-TX) and was initially co-sponsored by Howard Berman (D-CA), Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), Mary Bono Mack (R-CA), Steve Chabot (R-OH), John Conyers (D-MI), Ted Deutch (D-FL), Elton Gallegly (R-CA), Bob Goodlatte (R-VA), Timothy Griffin (R-AR), Dennis A. Ross (R-FL), Adam Schiff (D-CA) and Lee Terry (R-NE). As of January 16, 2012, there were 31 sponsors.[80]

    Legislators (Against)House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) expressed opposition to the bill, as well as Representatives Darrell Issa (R-CA) and presidential candidate Ron Paul (R-TX), who joined nine Democrats to sign a letter to other House members warning that the bill would cause "an explosion of innovation-killing lawsuits and litigation."[105] "Issa said the legislation is beyond repair and must be rewritten from scratch," reported The Hill.[106] Issa and Lofgren announced plans for legislation offering "a copyright enforcement process modeled after the U.S. International Trade Commission's (ITC) patent infringement investigations."[35] Politico referred to support as an "election liability" for legislators.[107] Subsequently proponents began hinting that key provisions might be deferred with opponents stating this was inadequate.[108][109] Representative Jared Polis (D-CO) has been known to lobby against SOPA in the game League of Legends, also making a post [110] in the official game message boards. [111]


    So, I'm confused how this is partisan?

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    Jan 23, 2012 9:04 PM GMT
    A couple of facts:

    SOPA was introduced by Republican Lamar Smith

    The Republican led Senate Judiciary Committee unanimously approved it

    Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi led several Democrats in expressing opposition to it back in November 2011.

    The majority of Republicans who opposed it, did so after the website blackouts last week.

    That's not leadership.
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    Looks like the tea party already removed any talk about slavery from whatever textbooks riddler read in school.
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    Jan 23, 2012 9:12 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidA couple of facts:

    SOPA was introduced by Republican Lamar Smith

    The Republican led Senate Judiciary Committee unanimously approved it

    Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi led several Democrats in expressing opposition to it back in November 2011.

    The majority of Republicans who opposed it, did so after the website blackouts last week.

    That's not leadership.


    Yeah other than the fact the change came from Republicans that allowed for the bills to be killed/shelved, nope no leadership at all. icon_rolleyes.gif

    This isn't to say there aren't still a number of Republicans and Democrats who either support or oppose the bills. But as to who killed it, it wasn't the Democrats as the ars technica article at least lays out the facts.

    Now if only the Republicans would repeal the Eisenhower tax cuts -
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2011/08/sunday-reflection-why-gop-should-give-obama-higher-taxes-he-wants to give Democrats what they want...
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    Jan 23, 2012 9:13 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidChris Dodd was a well known friend of big banking and now he's a lobbyist for the MPAA. Why is this surprising to anyone?


    Yes not surprising that the Democrats have found themselves on the wrong side of an important issue that's important to a lot of Americans.

    When you get technology sites writing pretty damning articles about Democrats, you know there's an issue:

    "Throwing Hollywood under the bus could pay dividends for GOP"
    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/throwing-hollywood-under-the-bus-could-pay-dividends-for-gop.ars


    More delusions from websites no one's ever heard of. We'll ignore the fact that Internet freedom is actually a project of the left... icon_rolleyes.gif

    Holy shit! ARSTECHNICA a site no one has ever heard of? Incredible.

  • Jan 23, 2012 9:28 PM GMT
    riddler78 saidLiberals love to make hay of the idea that it is Republicans who are bought and paid for rather than their Democratic/liberal counterparts who more directly advocating influencing/writing legislation/regulation and direct interventions in the economy.

    To their credit, a number of liberal commentators have also noted online that this is an issue that was handed to the Republicans - and it was the Republicans who ultimately crushed both bills as they currently are while heaping disdain on Democrats.

    http://parislemon.com/post/16246725828/those-who-count-on-quote-hollywood-for-support

    Chris Dodd's quote:

    "Those who count on quote ‘Hollywood’ for support need to understand that this industry is watching very carefully who’s going to stand up for them when their job is at stake. Don’t ask me to write a check for you when you think your job is at risk and then don’t pay any attention to me when my job is at stake."


    It's a general lobbyist issue, not particular to either side, though the reason why blame is generally given to republicans is because they tend to strongly oppose campaign finance reforms.


    Regardless, the entertainment industry needs to realize that we won't write checks to them if they push **** like this.