Bruins goalie Thomas declines White House visit for political reasons

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    Jan 24, 2012 1:34 PM GMT
    I have the utmost respect for Thomas, not because he is said to be a political conservative, but because he refuses to make himself an ornament on a political stage, bypassing a photo moment in favor of his beliefs.

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    WASHINGTON, D.C. – Boston Bruins' star goaltender Tim Thomas skipped Monday's White House visit by the Stanley Cup champions due to political differences with President Barack Obama.

    Thomas, a Flint, Mich., native and one of only two American players on the Bruins' Stanley Cup roster last season, was the only Boston player to decline the invitation.

    "I believe the Federal government has grown out of control, threatening the Rights, Liberties, and Property of the People," Thomas said in a statement.

    "This is being done at the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial level. This is in direct opposition to the Constitution and the Founding Fathers vision for the Federal government," he wrote.

    "Because I believe this, today (Monday) I exercised my right as a Free Citizen, and did not visit the White House. This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country. This was about a choice I had to make as an INDIVIDUAL."

    Thomas, who won the Conn Smythe Trophy as the most valuable player in last year's playoffs, is known to be a political conservative and has publicly stated he is a fan of right-wing commentator Glenn Beck, according to Boston sports radio website WEEI.com.

    "Everybody has their own opinions and political beliefs and he chose not to join us," team president Cam Neely said, according to ESPNBoston.com. "We certainly would have liked to have him come and join us, but that's his choice."

    In brief remarks, President Obama noted Thomas' stellar play on the title run, even though the netminder appears unlikely to return the compliment.

    "This Stanley Cup was won by defense as much as by offense," Obama said. "Tim Thomas posted two shutouts in the Stanley Cup Finals and set an all-time record for saves in the postseason and he also earned the honor of being only the second American ever to be recognized as the Stanley Cup playoffs MVP."

    Thomas also won the Vezina Trophy last season as the league's top goalie, helping the Bruins raise the cup for the first time in 39 years.
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    Jan 24, 2012 1:55 PM GMT
    Pathetic.
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    Jan 24, 2012 2:14 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidPathetic.

    No heroic. Someone willing to make a stand and not succumb to a photo op with someone he obviously does not respect.
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    Jan 24, 2012 2:23 PM GMT
    When World Leaders refused to shake George Bush's hand, that was heroic too? These are elected leaders, speaking on behalf of entire nations, not one member of a hockey team. Much more damning in my opinion.

    Watch the video, and note Bush hanging his head in shame as his fellow leaders own him.



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    Jan 24, 2012 2:30 PM GMT
    I was a bit simpathetic with this Thomas sports 'hero', thinking he was probably in part protesting things like the continuation of what Bush had started and now is law under Obama, that of the Indefinate Detention under Obama.

    BUT !!! Aparently this sports 'hero' see's a political 'hero' in Glen Beck, the self proclaimed fanatic who spreads political propaganda and wants to single handedly 'bring our country back to god'. That ended my simpathy for Thomas's cause, because anyone that follows Glen Becks leading is poorly informed at least or a really dumb Christian Fundi fanatic at worst.
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    Jan 24, 2012 2:52 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidPathetic.

    No heroic. Someone willing to make a stand and not succumb to a photo op with someone he obviously does not respect.


    If a Republican president was in office, you'd be saying the exact opposite.

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    Jan 24, 2012 2:59 PM GMT
    "Because I believe this, today (Monday) I exercised my right as a Free Citizen, and did not visit the White House. This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country. This was about a choice I had to make as an INDIVIDUAL."


    with this i can agree.
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    Jan 24, 2012 3:19 PM GMT
    "This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country.


    See that, Socal?

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    Jan 24, 2012 3:23 PM GMT
    Still though he’s the POTUS. You put difference aside for something like this and go. I disagree with President Obama on virtually everything except his actions as president assassin and helping out GM and Chrysler, which I very strongly agree with, but I would still go to at very least, show respect for the office of POTUS.
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    Jan 24, 2012 3:25 PM GMT
    The only thing that will come of this is fewer WH invites (from either party) to winning sports teams.

    Why give a platform to some self-promoter; a nobody outside the world of hockey.
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    Jan 24, 2012 3:28 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidStill though he’s the POTUS. You put difference aside for something like this and go. I disagree with President Obama on virtually everything except his actions as president assassin and helping out GM and Chrysler, which I very strongly agree with, but I would still go to at very least, show respect for the office of POTUS.


    That would be the classy thing to do.
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    Jan 24, 2012 3:33 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidI have the utmost respect for Thomas, not because he is said to be a political conservative, but because he refuses to make himself an ornament on a political stage, bypassing a photo moment in favor of his beliefs.

    http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/01/23/bruins-goalie-thomas-declines-white-house-visit-for-political-reasons/?test=latestnews

    WASHINGTON, D.C. – Boston Bruins' star goaltender Tim Thomas skipped Monday's White House visit by the Stanley Cup champions due to political differences with President Barack Obama.

    Thomas, a Flint, Mich., native and one of only two American players on the Bruins' Stanley Cup roster last season, was the only Boston player to decline the invitation.

    "I believe the Federal government has grown out of control, threatening the Rights, Liberties, and Property of the People," Thomas said in a statement.

    "This is being done at the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial level. This is in direct opposition to the Constitution and the Founding Fathers vision for the Federal government," he wrote.

    "Because I believe this, today (Monday) I exercised my right as a Free Citizen, and did not visit the White House. This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country. This was about a choice I had to make as an INDIVIDUAL."

    Thomas, who won the Conn Smythe Trophy as the most valuable player in last year's playoffs, is known to be a political conservative and has publicly stated he is a fan of right-wing commentator Glenn Beck, according to Boston sports radio website WEEI.com.

    "Everybody has their own opinions and political beliefs and he chose not to join us," team president Cam Neely said, according to ESPNBoston.com. "We certainly would have liked to have him come and join us, but that's his choice."

    In brief remarks, President Obama noted Thomas' stellar play on the title run, even though the netminder appears unlikely to return the compliment.

    "This Stanley Cup was won by defense as much as by offense," Obama said. "Tim Thomas posted two shutouts in the Stanley Cup Finals and set an all-time record for saves in the postseason and he also earned the honor of being only the second American ever to be recognized as the Stanley Cup playoffs MVP."

    Thomas also won the Vezina Trophy last season as the league's top goalie, helping the Bruins raise the cup for the first time in 39 years.
    Sorry, but he JUST DID.icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 24, 2012 3:36 PM GMT
    meninlove said "This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country.
    See that, Socal?

    Thanks, but I happened to read that. He did not want to inject partisan politics into his statement, but his position is fairly well known.
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    meninlove said "This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country.
    See that, Socal?

    Thanks, but I happened to read that. He did not want to inject partisan politics into his statement, but his position is fairly well known.


    So he lied to the press in his statement to pretend that he's not a partisan ideologue?
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    freedomisntfree saidStill though he’s the POTUS. You put difference aside for something like this and go. I disagree with President Obama on virtually everything except his actions as president assassin and helping out GM and Chrysler, which I very strongly agree with, but I would still go to at very least, show respect for the office of POTUS.

    My opinion is different. Without getting into specifics, I believe the office of POTUS demands respect, and that respect, by default, applies to the person holding that office, until and unless that person demonstrates that he does not deserve that respect. It is an individual decision.
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    Jan 24, 2012 3:43 PM GMT
    Sad. You win as a team and lose as a team. The team accepted the invite, and this player chose to represent his own self interests instead of the interests of the team. There is no "I" in "team". If i was his teammate, i would view this player and his motives with extreme suspect. Typical of certain political factions to only think about themselves rather than the greater good. #selfishteammate
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    freedomisntfree saidStill though he’s the POTUS. You put difference aside for something like this and go. I disagree with President Obama on virtually everything except his actions as president assassin and helping out GM and Chrysler, which I very strongly agree with, but I would still go to at very least, show respect for the office of POTUS.

    My opinion is different. Without getting in specifics, I believe the office of POTUS demands respect, and that respect, by default, applies to the person holding that office, until and unless that person demonstrates that he does not deserve that respect. It is an individual decision.


    And what series of lies and half truths support your contention that the POTUS doesn't deserve respect?
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    meninlove said "This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country.
    See that, Socal?

    Thanks, but I happened to read that. He did not want to inject partisan politics into his statement, but his position is fairly well known.


    So he lied to the press in his statement to pretend that he's not a partisan ideologue?

    It seems clear that his statement as it stands is true, but does not fully contain his entire position. Would you consider it dishonest to tell a lady she looked nice for an evening function even if you thought she had an ugly mole on her neck?
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    freedomisntfree saidStill though he’s the POTUS. You put difference aside for something like this and go. I disagree with President Obama on virtually everything except his actions as president assassin and helping out GM and Chrysler, which I very strongly agree with, but I would still go to at very least, show respect for the office of POTUS.

    My opinion is different. Without getting in specifics, I believe the office of POTUS demands respect, and that respect, by default, applies to the person holding that office, until and unless that person demonstrates that he does not deserve that respect. It is an individual decision.


    And what series of lies and half truths support your contention that the POTUS doesn't deserve respect?

    Has been discussed before. Google Obama lies and broken promises and enjoy the next several hours reading the different accounts.
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    freedomisntfree saidStill though he’s the POTUS. You put difference aside for something like this and go. I disagree with President Obama on virtually everything except his actions as president assassin and helping out GM and Chrysler, which I very strongly agree with, but I would still go to at very least, show respect for the office of POTUS.

    My opinion is different. Without getting in specifics, I believe the office of POTUS demands respect, and that respect, by default, applies to the person holding that office, until and unless that person demonstrates that he does not deserve that respect. It is an individual decision.


    And what series of lies and half truths support your contention that the POTUS doesn't deserve respect?

    Has been discussed before. Google Obama lies and broken promises and enjoy the next several hours reading the different accounts.


    I've googled that and there's no "there" there. The reality is that Obama has done a very good job in the face of endless Republican obstructionism. If you weren't so blinded by hate you would see that.
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    Christian73 said
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    freedomisntfree saidStill though he’s the POTUS. You put difference aside for something like this and go. I disagree with President Obama on virtually everything except his actions as president assassin and helping out GM and Chrysler, which I very strongly agree with, but I would still go to at very least, show respect for the office of POTUS.

    My opinion is different. Without getting in specifics, I believe the office of POTUS demands respect, and that respect, by default, applies to the person holding that office, until and unless that person demonstrates that he does not deserve that respect. It is an individual decision.


    And what series of lies and half truths support your contention that the POTUS doesn't deserve respect?

    Has been discussed before. Google Obama lies and broken promises and enjoy the next several hours reading the different accounts.


    I've googled that and there's no "there" there. The reality is that Obama has done a very good job in the face of endless Republican obstructionism. If you weren't so blinded by hate you would see that.

    Maybe the solar flare is interfering with your internet connection. When I google that exact phrase there are on my iPad 10 hits on the first page, and more than 31 pages. I don't know how many in all. Maybe you need a new ISP.
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    Christian73 said
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 said
    socalfitness said
    freedomisntfree saidStill though he’s the POTUS. You put difference aside for something like this and go. I disagree with President Obama on virtually everything except his actions as president assassin and helping out GM and Chrysler, which I very strongly agree with, but I would still go to at very least, show respect for the office of POTUS.

    My opinion is different. Without getting in specifics, I believe the office of POTUS demands respect, and that respect, by default, applies to the person holding that office, until and unless that person demonstrates that he does not deserve that respect. It is an individual decision.


    And what series of lies and half truths support your contention that the POTUS doesn't deserve respect?

    Has been discussed before. Google Obama lies and broken promises and enjoy the next several hours reading the different accounts.


    I've googled that and there's no "there" there. The reality is that Obama has done a very good job in the face of endless Republican obstructionism. If you weren't so blinded by hate you would see that.

    Maybe the solar flare is interfering with your internet connection. When I google that exact phrase there are on my iPad 10 hits on the first page, and more than 31 pages. I don't know how many in all. Maybe you need a new ISP.


    Oh... I meant there's just a bunch of partisan websites from where you get your lies and half truths.
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    Christian73 said
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    freedomisntfree saidStill though he’s the POTUS. You put difference aside for something like this and go. I disagree with President Obama on virtually everything except his actions as president assassin and helping out GM and Chrysler, which I very strongly agree with, but I would still go to at very least, show respect for the office of POTUS.

    My opinion is different. Without getting in specifics, I believe the office of POTUS demands respect, and that respect, by default, applies to the person holding that office, until and unless that person demonstrates that he does not deserve that respect. It is an individual decision.


    And what series of lies and half truths support your contention that the POTUS doesn't deserve respect?

    Has been discussed before. Google Obama lies and broken promises and enjoy the next several hours reading the different accounts.


    I've googled that and there's no "there" there. The reality is that Obama has done a very good job in the face of endless Republican obstructionism. If you weren't so blinded by hate you would see that.


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    Ha Ha !! Christian, this is a 'RICH' suggestion to Google for facts coming from FreedomGeezer as readers will note his aversion to Googling facts on other topics.

    While we're on this subject, he should Google "BUSH LIES" a rather telling article that listed his long list of them, anyone remember that from about 5 or 6 years ago. purhaps FreedomGeezer would like to Google that list.
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    Jan 24, 2012 4:07 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidStill though he’s the POTUS. You put difference aside for something like this and go. I disagree with President Obama on virtually everything except his actions as president assassin and helping out GM and Chrysler, which I very strongly agree with, but I would still go to at very least, show respect for the office of POTUS.

    My opinion is different. Without getting in specifics, I believe the office of POTUS demands respect, and that respect, by default, applies to the person holding that office, until and unless that person demonstrates that he does not deserve that respect. It is an individual decision.


    And what series of lies and half truths support your contention that the POTUS doesn't deserve respect?


    And if it just happened to be George W Bush as POTUS or maybe someday Newt Gingrich with everything else the same?
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    Jan 24, 2012 4:10 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 saidPathetic.

    No heroic. Someone willing to make a stand and not succumb to a photo op with someone he obviously does not respect.



    Heroic? More like asinine! When you get invited to The White House, you should go if for no other reason than it's an opportunity to see The White House. It's not about politics -- it's about being a team player and joining your team in an invite to meet the leader of the free world. No one says you have to like the guy.