Anal warts.

  • JakeIp

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    Jan 25, 2012 5:39 PM GMT
    Have a question.. I am 99% I have anal warts and am wondering does that mean my partner has them? Although I. Had. Never seen signs of them.. They appeared about a month of me bottoming. Ill be going to the doctor soon to have them removed. Also I'm looking for a doctor. Is there a certain type I should look for?
  • Latenight30

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    Jan 25, 2012 9:14 PM GMT
    You need to go to a rectal specialist. You can't treat those like other warts and they might come back later in your history.
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    Jan 26, 2012 11:47 AM GMT
    JakeIp saidHave a question.. I am 99% I have anal warts and am wondering does that mean my partner has them? Although I. Had. Never seen signs of them.. They appeared about a month of me bottoming. Ill be going to the doctor soon to have them removed. Also I'm looking for a doctor. Is there a certain type I should look for?

    Phone the office of a colorectal surgeon, also known as a proctologist. You may be told that this specialist only accepts patients on referral, and it might be a smart courtesy to go through your primary (general) physician anyway. Otherwise your primary may be offended by you cutting him/her out of the loop, should the proctologist be willing to accept you directly.

    Ask the doctor(s) the question regarding your partner, providing the timeline of your beginning sexual relations with him, and when these apparent warts were first noticed. You may have contracted a virus prior to meeting him, that produced no immediate symptoms like warts for a period of time, or he may have been the one who transmitted a virus to you, despite his remaining asymptomatic today with no warts himself (I presume).

    In any case if you have something infectious then he must be checked, too. Not only to spare him an outbreak of warts like yours if possible, and other potential complications, but also to prevent his reinfecting you.

    Indeed, it could be wise for both of you to have complete workups if you've not done that before, to establish a baseline of who's got what, if anything. I think all gay couples should make that a requirement when they establish a relationship.
  • JakeIp

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    Jan 26, 2012 9:22 PM GMT
    I would assume I got it from him being I have been with him for a year and a half. Only bottomed a couple times.
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    Jan 26, 2012 11:31 PM GMT
    JakeIp saidI would assume I got it from him being I have been with him for a year and a half. Only bottomed a couple times.

    Perhaps you did get it from him. Now BOTH of you need to see a doctor. Agreed? And I already told you what kind.
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    Jan 26, 2012 11:39 PM GMT
    HPV is transmitted by skin contact. You can get it just as easily whether you bottom or top, or just engage in a little frottage or a hand job. It is one of the diseases for which condoms are ineffective. Your doctor may remove them or may give you some salve and let the infection run its course.

    In any case, you should avoid skin contact with others while you have an active outbreak.
  • Clutch072791

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    Jan 26, 2012 11:49 PM GMT
    Im sorry to hear that you have them. But they are fairly common. Even though you got them while with your partner, It doesn't necessarily mean you caught it from your bf. It can take months/ years for warts to appear. The average is 3 months. The faster you get em removed, the faster they will go away. 25% of cases come back, but 75% dont. Keep in mind that like 95% of people have at least one of 100 strands of the HPV virus. Anyway man, just get em removed. And if they dont come back within like 6-8 months, your immune system has suppressed the virus.

    Good Luck
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    Jan 27, 2012 12:40 AM GMT
    Proctologist. Get them removed with laser. Especially if they are way up inside you as well. Be prepared for quite a bit of "down time" in regards to putting anything up there. Don't bother with the topical removal.
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    Jan 27, 2012 3:06 PM GMT
    The more i learn of HPV, the more horrified i get....
    You can have this with no symptoms. You can infect others with no symptoms. You can have no symptoms, only to have them appear months/years later.

    HPV doesnt come up with normal bloodwork - correct? And the test for HPV is costly, not covered by insurance, so how many people actually are tested?

    If your immune system has suppressed the virus - does that mean it is gone? Would it show up on a HPV test? If suppressed, can you still infect a sex-partner?

    Would a test even reveal accurate results ?
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    Jan 27, 2012 8:49 PM GMT
    mojohnny saidThe more i learn of HPV, the more horrified i get....
    You can have this with no symptoms. You can infect others with no symptoms. You can have no symptoms, only to have them appear months/years later.

    HPV doesnt come up with normal bloodwork - correct? And the test for HPV is costly, not covered by insurance, so how many people actually are tested?

    If your immune system has suppressed the virus - does that mean it is gone? Would it show up on a HPV test? If suppressed, can you still infect a sex-partner?

    Would a test even reveal accurate results ?

    I believe there is no routine test for males, nor is there a treatment. The CDC say that 90% of male HPV cases clear themselves in 2 years, but that's with a healthy immune system, and there appears to be some doubt whether the virus is truly eliminated, or merely dormant. It is diagnosed in males by the presentation of symptoms, for instance genital warts. The likelihood of HPV leading to cancer is much higher in females than in males.

    I've just placed a call with my doctor's office, who's an HIV/infectious disease specialist. A little late for today, but they should be calling me back Monday to let me know if I've ever been tested specifically for HPV. I've never had genital warts, or any oral symptoms. Even if there is not an HPV-specific test for men, I still maintain, as I stated above, that all sexually active gay men should choose to have HIV and STD tests performed.
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    Jan 27, 2012 9:53 PM GMT
    Here's a report I saw today about HPV and oral cancer. More men with HPV have oral cancer than women, though it's still not very widespread. Women have a higher overall cancer rate from HPV.

    http://vitals.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/26/10243115-more-men-than-women-have-oral-cancer-virus
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    Jan 28, 2012 9:30 PM GMT
    Thanks guys for the info.
    I have no symptoms, nor any reason to believe i am infected...except that i've been with a handful of guys ...well, maybe a couple handfuls..... and never really knew of HPV until recently.
    Has me worried just to say hi and smile icon_neutral.gif
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    Feb 10, 2012 11:17 PM GMT

    I just had a bunch of these taken care of. Totally embarrassing trip to doctor, bend over, spread open... but they said no big deal at all health wise, may come back, may not
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    Feb 11, 2012 3:59 AM GMT
    My friends in med school think it is hilarious that gay men are obsessed with HPV. I mean, the danger is giving it to women because it messes with their reproductive system, a scar in their vag can hurt when stretched by the baby. Hence why they just remove warts on men who have sex with men and only cover pap smears for women.
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    Feb 12, 2012 1:22 AM GMT
    Anal pap smear is preventative care and should be covered by insurance. If not yet, in a few years.
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    Feb 14, 2012 1:02 AM GMT
    intentsman saidAnal pap smear is preventative care and should be covered by insurance. If not yet, in a few years.


    Please, read my post above.

    Thank you.
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    Feb 14, 2012 2:03 AM GMT
    Anal cancer doesn't count as a risk worthy of preventative care?
  • musclmed

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    Feb 16, 2012 1:50 AM GMT
    Chainers saidMy friends in med school think it is hilarious that gay men are obsessed with HPV. I mean, the danger is giving it to women because it messes with their reproductive system, a scar in their vag can hurt when stretched by the baby. Hence why they just remove warts on men who have sex with men and only cover pap smears for women.


    Your friend needs to learn a bit more.

    The issue is relevant if you have anal receptive sex.

    due to the nature of the way this ANAL PAP is done right now it not easy to put it on par with say a PAP smear.

    As technology improves, PCR technology could be improved to the point of a test similar to the stool occult blood test.

    There is a vaccine, however I find the patients who get the vaccine are not the ones I worry about. They are super careful about there health.
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    Feb 17, 2012 6:45 PM GMT
    i was just at the clinic getting all my tests updayed, and enquired about the HPV vaccine. i was told, there really isnt one! and if you have ever had a cold sore, or herpes in any form, that you have the virus and are open to any HPV related issues. I did have an rectal exam though which was clear. Routine testing seems to be the only way to keep on top ( no pun intended) of any possible issues. At least in Canada we can go to a provincial health clinic and get this done for free...
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    Feb 17, 2012 9:00 PM GMT
    hairyandym saidi was just at the clinic getting all my tests updayed, and enquired about the HPV vaccine. i was told, there really isnt one! and if you have ever had a cold sore, or herpes in any form, that you have the virus and are open to any HPV related issues. I did have an rectal exam though which was clear. Routine testing seems to be the only way to keep on top ( no pun intended) of any possible issues. At least in Canada we can go to a provincial health clinic and get this done for free...


    Well I think you or the Provider confused HSV with HPV.

    HPV has no practical blood test. There is a vaccine ( gardisil) Genitital Wart Virus

    HSV ( Herpes) there is a blood test that has some significance but this often causes more issues than it solves. And i know in the UK, it is frowned about it being used.

    Inquire about gardisil. But i would not be surprised if Canada decided not to implement this yet.
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    Mar 28, 2012 12:09 AM GMT
    You can get a GP to freeze the warts if they aren't too far inside you which might be an option if you don't want to go to the laser or injection route. But ask a doctor what is best for you.

    Totally agree with Clutch072791.
  • gr8hands4you

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    Mar 29, 2012 12:15 AM GMT
    I hate all the misinformation on this site... Please always ask your family doctor before jumping to a specialist.. Talk about a waste of healthcare monies...
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    Jun 12, 2012 7:39 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    Chainers saidMy friends in med school think it is hilarious that gay men are obsessed with HPV. I mean, the danger is giving it to women because it messes with their reproductive system, a scar in their vag can hurt when stretched by the baby. Hence why they just remove warts on men who have sex with men and only cover pap smears for women.


    Give your friend an openhanded whore slap across the mouth for me would ya?

    Anal cancer is the result of certain strains of HPV mutating into cancer, so it is not a laughing matter and it can be fucking nightmare. I lived that nightmare. I had anal cancer and went through fucking hell and back. My anal cancer was the result of being positive for HPV which can cause anal cancer.

    They are also finding that men carry HPV under their fingernails and can have HPV simply from passing through the vaginal canal during birth.

    There is a noticeable number of straight men who are being diagnosed with anal cancer for this reason. From my latest research it seems that these men contract HPV from their mothers during the birthing process and can have it for decades with no signs. I'm not sure if it is true or not but it would seem that birth by Cesarian section might be able to prevent all of this.

    By the way, HPV can also go away. After being in remission for two years for anal cancer they also did a pap smear for me. As of December of 2011 there were no signs of HPV. The doctor's office did not go so far as to say that I am HPV free but simply said that "according to my test results" there were no signs of HPV.

    After getting treated for anal cancer I have since never had the urge to engage in receptive anal sex. Perhaps lack of any possible exposure and allowing my body to heal has lead to a possible elimination of the virus.


    I`m glad that you can share your story with us, and make us know about potential dangers. Still, I`m happy you made your way back.

    Comming back on the subject, there is a small detail we seem to forget. HPV alone is not, very often, enough to cause cancer. Immuno-suppressed state, HIV, smoking, drug abuse and other risk factors are indeed to be considered.

    Dr. Abramowitz for example, says that Anal cancer due to HPV is closely linked to a deep and long lasting depressed state of immunity, as for HIV+ with low CD4 count. And chemiotherapy...I lived that hell for about 6 years and of course it doesnt feel good at all. I was always sick like a dog while having a little common cold, so imagine what it can be with a resistant virus dormant in your skin tissues. As for heavy smokers, armful chemicals are not doing any good to the immune system and make it weaker...as you let more chemicals building up in your body. And when those factors are not present, the risk of cancer remains low in general population and tend to rise with aging.

    Only to say, make the right choices to keep yourself healthy. Keep yourself strong and under surveillance. After all, you know your body better than anyone else right? So keep calm and don`t panic. One of my teacher, Dr. Handsfied said that you have more chances being struck by lightning than develop anal cancer...but still few people get struck by lighting every year. Only the risk with warts alone, you; ll see the comet of Haley fall on the bigfoot riding the monster of the loch ness long before it turns itself into cancer.

    It is only sad that a great guy here had to visit hell because of a succession of unwanted events.
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    Jun 12, 2012 1:57 PM GMT
    I have to thank MuchMoretheMuscle for telling his story. I have HIV and after reading about his battle with anal cancer, I talked with my Primary Care doctor, and she referred me to a specialist to do an anal PAP smear and an anoscopy next month. Hopefully everything will look good