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  • conservativej...

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    Jan 25, 2012 10:25 PM GMT
    This has been a very busy but wonderful week for me here in Florida. I'm due to make a appearance beginning at 7 PM in behalf of one of the Republican Presidential Primary candidates. As such, I'll start a series of threads here, that I hope you conservative RealJockers find interesting, if not important.

    First, Florida's Republican primary is closed. While a Floridian may register to vote in Florida as a member of one of a few political parties, you as a voter can only vote in the primary of the party in which you registered. As such, only registered Republicans can vote for Gingrich, Romney, Santorum, or Paul.

    Now to the heart of this thread. Relate to us the policies, plans, beliefs, etc. that make Mitt Romney a conservative. In addition, please relate to us how your beliefs as a conservative align with Mitt Romney’s definition as a conservative.

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    Jan 25, 2012 10:28 PM GMT
    conservativejock saidThis has been a very busy but wonderful week for me here in Florida. I'm due to make a appearance beginning at 7 PM in behalf of one of the Republican Presidential Primary candidates. As such, I'll start a series of threads here, that I hope you conservative RealJockers find interesting, if not important.

    First, Florida's Republican primary is closed. While a Floridian may register to vote in Florida as a member of one of a few political parties, you as a voter can only vote in the primary of the party in which you registered. As such, only registered Republicans can vote for Gingrich, Romney, Santorum, or Paul.

    Now to the heart of this thread. Relate to us the policies, plans, beliefs, etc. that make Mitt Romney a conservative. In addition, please relate to us how your beliefs as a conservative align with Mitt Romney’s definition as a conservative.

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    Jan 25, 2012 10:43 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    conservativejock saidThis has been a very busy but wonderful week for me here in Florida. I'm due to make a appearance beginning at 7 PM in behalf of one of the Republican Presidential Primary candidates. As such, I'll start a series of threads here, that I hope you conservative RealJockers find interesting, if not important.

    First, Florida's Republican primary is closed. While a Floridian may register to vote in Florida as a member of one of a few political parties, you as a voter can only vote in the primary of the party in which you registered. As such, only registered Republicans can vote for Gingrich, Romney, Santorum, or Paul.

    Now to the heart of this thread. Relate to us the policies, plans, beliefs, etc. that make Mitt Romney a conservative. In addition, please relate to us how your beliefs as a conservative align with Mitt Romney’s definition as a conservative.

    Thanks!!! I'm off!! It's Church night

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    Uncalled for.
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    Jan 25, 2012 11:07 PM GMT
    I guess keeping rigorously on topic is like herding cats, so I would like to ask how Gingrich demonstrated conservatism when he attacked the market practices of Bain?
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    Jan 25, 2012 11:12 PM GMT
    Unfortunately, we don't have any Conservatives running right now so we'll just have to make do and hope that they listen to real Conservatives if elected.
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    Jan 25, 2012 11:15 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    conservativejock saidRelate to us the policies, plans, beliefs, etc. that make Mitt Romney a conservative.

    I don't believe Romney is a conservative. That said, I'll still vote for him in November if he is the nominee.

    You'd vote for someone in a coma if a -R was after the name. Who are you kidding here? Like you actually consider issues?

    Rather, you select the Republican first, then you distort the issues to rationalize your choice. Your MO is too well known here to try that trick with us. icon_razz.gif
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    Jan 25, 2012 11:27 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    southbeach1500 said
    conservativejock saidRelate to us the policies, plans, beliefs, etc. that make Mitt Romney a conservative.

    I don't believe Romney is a conservative. That said, I'll still vote for him in November if he is the nominee.

    You'd vote for someone in a coma if a -R was after the name. Who are you kidding here? Like you actually consider issues?

    Rather, you select the Republican first, then you distort the issues to rationalize your choice. Your MO is too well known here to try that trick with us. icon_razz.gif

    SB as well as several of us are clear and focused like a laser that we want the country rid of the policies of Obama.
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    Jan 25, 2012 11:28 PM GMT
    What is Gingrich's dirty little secret that Pelosi is threatening to reveal to derail his potential GOP nomination?
  • conservativej...

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    Jan 26, 2012 2:20 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    conservativejock saidRelate to us the policies, plans, beliefs, etc. that make Mitt Romney a conservative.


    I don't believe Romney is a conservative. That said, I'll still vote for him in November if he is the nominee.


    My perspective also.
  • conservativej...

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    Jan 26, 2012 2:31 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidI guess keeping rigorously on topic is like herding cats, so I would like to ask how Gingrich demonstrated conservatism when he attacked the market practices of Bain?


    My personal opinion is conservatives needed to witness a modicum of what is coming down the track in October and the first few days of November 2012. We have already seen a pause from Romney on another topic.

    Romney states he wants to reduce capital gains taxes to spur the economy, but only for people making less than $200,000 a year. (As if those folks are the ones throwing around large sums of capital to spur growth.) Why did he choose to cap the reduction at $200,000? Because then it would be a clear case of the rich guy giving himself a tax break. How else do you think he acheived that less than 15% tax rate?

    The class warfare mantra of Obama needs to be broken off and driven into the ground. Romney is not the man capable of doing that.

    I'll have research puled on Bain and post to my blog. It's not like I do not run in the crowd with equities. I'm after all, not running for President, but Romney is.
  • conservativej...

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    Jan 26, 2012 2:32 AM GMT
    catfish5 saidWhat is Gingrich's dirty little secret that Pelosi is threatening to reveal to derail his potential GOP nomination?


    Who knows, it's quite possible Madam Pelosi is aware he hired services not unlike yours. But I suspect you walk the line of double standard on that.
  • conservativej...

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    Jan 26, 2012 2:34 AM GMT
    RIGuy60 saidUnfortunately, we don't have any Conservatives running right now so we'll just have to make do and hope that they listen to real Conservatives if elected.


    That's the plan, speaking as a rather rabid no holds barred conservative.
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    Jan 26, 2012 2:39 AM GMT
    conservativejock said
    socalfitness saidI guess keeping rigorously on topic is like herding cats, so I would like to ask how Gingrich demonstrated conservatism when he attacked the market practices of Bain?


    My personal opinion is conservatives needed to witness a modicum of what is coming down the track in October and the first few days of November 2012. We have already seen a pause from Romney on another topic.

    Romney states he wants to reduce capital gains taxes to spur the economy, but only for people making less than $200,000 a year. (As if those folks are the ones throwing around large sums of capital to spur growth.) Why did he choose to cap the reduction at $200,000? Because then it would be a clear case of the rich guy giving himself a tax break. How else do you think he acheived that less than 15% tax rate?

    The class warfare mantra of Obama needs to be broken off and driven into the ground. Romney is not the man capable of doing that.

    I'll have research puled on Bain and post to my blog. It's not like I do not run in the crowd with equities. I'm after all, not running for President, but Romney is.

    I don't see Romney as perpetuating the class warfare mantra one bit. Gingrich also made the questionable comment about Ryan 's right wing social engineering. I don't consider Gingrich a reliable conservative either because he is all over the map. Furthermore, I don't see private equity as disqualifying in any way for President. I would question any suggestion otherwise.
  • conservativej...

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    Jan 26, 2012 2:43 AM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    conservativejock saidThis has been a very busy but wonderful week for me here in Florida. I'm due to make a appearance beginning at 7 PM in behalf of one of the Republican Presidential Primary candidates. As such, I'll start a series of threads here, that I hope you conservative RealJockers find interesting, if not important.

    First, Florida's Republican primary is closed. While a Floridian may register to vote in Florida as a member of one of a few political parties, you as a voter can only vote in the primary of the party in which you registered. As such, only registered Republicans can vote for Gingrich, Romney, Santorum, or Paul.

    Now to the heart of this thread. Relate to us the policies, plans, beliefs, etc. that make Mitt Romney a conservative. In addition, please relate to us how your beliefs as a conservative align with Mitt Romney’s definition as a conservative.

    Thanks!!! I'm off!! It's Church night

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    Actually the appearence was to ensure the "vote" falls in the proper place. "Romae sicut cum Romanis facerent."
  • conservativej...

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    Jan 26, 2012 2:46 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    conservativejock said
    socalfitness saidI guess keeping rigorously on topic is like herding cats, so I would like to ask how Gingrich demonstrated conservatism when he attacked the market practices of Bain?


    My personal opinion is conservatives needed to witness a modicum of what is coming down the track in October and the first few days of November 2012. We have already seen a pause from Romney on another topic.

    Romney states he wants to reduce capital gains taxes to spur the economy, but only for people making less than $200,000 a year. (As if those folks are the ones throwing around large sums of capital to spur growth.) Why did he choose to cap the reduction at $200,000? Because then it would be a clear case of the rich guy giving himself a tax break. How else do you think he acheived that less than 15% tax rate?

    The class warfare mantra of Obama needs to be broken off and driven into the ground. Romney is not the man capable of doing that.

    I'll have research puled on Bain and post to my blog. It's not like I do not run in the crowd with equities. I'm after all, not running for President, but Romney is.

    I don't see Romney as perpetuating the class warfare mantra one bit. Gingrich also made the questionable comment about Ryan 's right wing social engineering. I don't consider Gingrich a reliable conservative either because he is all over the map. Furthermore, I don't see private equity as disqualifying in any way for President. I would question any suggestion otherwise.


    I agree Romney will not perpetuate class warfare. He simply is going to be the focus of it. He is a gift to Obama in the highest form, not to say Gingrich is overwhelmingly better.

    Surely you understand I would not disqualify anyone from the Office of President.for being involved in private equity. Unfortunately the mood in America at the moment is one where the overall electorate might not as easily agree with you and I.
  • rioriz

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    Jan 26, 2012 2:54 AM GMT
    In regards to Romney, I see him definitely as a moderate but has more conservative views than any Democrat would. I for one feel he would bring a Conservative viewpoint to how business is done in the USA. As a family man I would say he has very little blemishes, much like Obama. I think Romney does value State rights which is something I strongly feel this administration does not believe in. I think Mitt sees the power of producing our own energy resources and would tap into them (oil) to help become more energy independent.

    I do feel socially Mitt is more moderate but for me that is great. I support Mitt because he is the moderate conservative that I associate with more. Finally I see Mitt as more of a Leader than Obama. Taking a totally non partisan view I personally have not seen much leadership from the Pres after the Health Care Bill was passed. The do nothing Congress is also made of members of his own party that have rejected several of his own proposals over the past few years.

    People are really missing the big issues in this election cycle and that is the congress vote. I think this Republicans taking control of the Senate would impact the Country more than winning the presidency.
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    Jan 26, 2012 2:55 AM GMT
    Gross.

    Obama 2012 all the way.
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    Jan 26, 2012 3:07 AM GMT
    conservativejock saidI agree Romney will not perpetuate class warfare. He simply is going to be the focus of it. He is a gift to Obama in the highest form, not to say Gingrich is overwhelmingly better.

    Surely you understand I would not disqualify anyone from the Office of President.for being involved in private equity. Unfortunately the mood in America at the moment is one where the overall electorate might not as easily agree with you and I.

    I think Romney would ultimately be a stronger candidate against Obama, and even in debates. Gingrich is red meat for the base, but his sharp rhetoric will be less effective with moderates. Certainly he can effectively tear Obama apart, but in the next breath can say something completely off the wall. I don't think he has the requisite self-control. I see Romney effective against Obama in debates, especially in an environment when PACs and other attack dogs will significantly bruise Obama.

    Lastly, the case that private equity is an honorable part of our free market system and its positive impact on everyday people can be effectively made. Have no doubt about that.
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    rioriz saidIn regards to Romney, I see him definitely as a moderate but has more conservative views than any Democrat would. I for one feel he would bring a Conservative viewpoint to how business is done in the USA. As a family man I would say he has very little blemishes, much like Obama. I think Romney does value State rights which is something I strongly feel this administration does not believe in. I think Mitt sees the power of producing our own energy resources and would tap into them (oil) to help become more energy independent.

    I do feel socially Mitt is more moderate but for me that is great. I support Mitt because he is the moderate conservative that I associate with more. Finally I see Mitt as more of a Leader than Obama. Taking a totally non partisan view I personally have not seen much leadership from the Pres after the Health Care Bill was passed. The do nothing Congress is also made of members of his own party that have rejected several of his own proposals over the past few years.

    People are really missing the big issues in this election cycle and that is the congress vote. I think this Republicans taking control of the Senate would impact the Country more than winning the presidency.

    Agree with everything, but I think taking the presidency is also crucial in fixing health care and getting an agenda accomplished. Also, I would see in an Obama second term a continuation of executive branch infringing on the legislative, regardless of the law. On the other hand, Romney has demonstrated an ability to work across the aisle as he did in Massachusetts. With Obama out of the picture, I think more Democratic moderates would come forward and take control of the party, motivating a more socially moderate emphasis on the Republican side, to avoid losing moderates to the Democrats. I think people of both sides are tired of the divisiveness, and with Romney, I think that would be significantly reduced.
  • JP85257

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    Jan 26, 2012 4:02 AM GMT
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    southbeach1500 said
    conservativejock saidRelate to us the policies, plans, beliefs, etc. that make Mitt Romney a conservative.

    I don't believe Romney is a conservative. That said, I'll still vote for him in November if he is the nominee.

    You'd vote for someone in a coma if a -R was after the name. Who are you kidding here? Like you actually consider issues?

    Rather, you select the Republican first, then you distort the issues to rationalize your choice. Your MO is too well known here to try that trick with us. icon_razz.gif

    OF course I would. Its an "Anyone But Obama" year.
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    southbeach1500 said
    Art_Deco said
    southbeach1500 said
    conservativejock saidRelate to us the policies, plans, beliefs, etc. that make Mitt Romney a conservative.

    I don't believe Romney is a conservative. That said, I'll still vote for him in November if he is the nominee.

    You'd vote for someone in a coma if a -R was after the name. Who are you kidding here? Like you actually consider issues?


    And you know what? A person in a coma would be a better President than the current occupant of the White House.

    And a lying '40' yr old 47 yr old on A4A is someone to 'look up to' LMAO

    Shh dont tell anyone the truth!
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jan 26, 2012 6:33 AM GMT
    Romney is probably the least conservative of the remaining four...I see that as a GOOD thing. Everything in moderation icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 26, 2012 6:41 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidRomney is probably the least conservative of the remaining four...I see that as a GOOD thing. Everything in moderation icon_wink.gif

    I want a proud conservative to go up against the proud socialist.
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    CuriousJockAZ saidRomney is probably the least conservative of the remaining four...I see that as a GOOD thing. Everything in moderation icon_wink.gif

    I want a proud conservative to go up against the proud socialist.


    Still time for someone else to get in the race if its looking like too much of a mess. Mitch? Jeb?
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    Jan 26, 2012 7:10 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    JP85257 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidRomney is probably the least conservative of the remaining four...I see that as a GOOD thing. Everything in moderation icon_wink.gif

    I want a proud conservative to go up against the proud socialist.


    Still time for someone else to get in the race if its looking like too much of a mess. Mitch? Jeb?

    I think whoever the nominee is we have got to get behind em.