Picture of Snoozing Teacher Gets Student Suspended

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    Jan 27, 2012 6:09 PM GMT
    Once again demonstrating that the public education system is more interested in protecting teachers than providing an education for students.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/picture-snoozing-sub-gets-student-suspended-231953133--abc-news.html

    A ninth grader who snapped a picture of a snoozing substitute teacher with his cell phone camera and posted it on a social network is in hot water with his school district.

    The unnamed student, who attends Mustang Mid-High School in Mustang, Okla., was suspended, according to ABC affiliate KOCO.

    The picture shows a "close-eyed man reclining behind a desk", The Oklahoman reported.

    Mustang Public Schools denied ABCNews.com's request for an interview but issued a statement acknowledging it had conducted an internal investigation into the actions of the student and the substitute teacher.

    "Appropriate follow-up action has taken place," Mustang Public Schools spokeswoman Mary Leaver wrote to ABCNews.com.

    Leaver said it was against school policy for students to use their cell phones during the day.

    One parent told ABC News' affiliate he felt the school had overreacted.

    "If anything, they should have been reprimanded for having a phone, but they probably took it to an extreme because they caught a teacher doing something they weren't supposed to be doing," said the parent, Steven Graulich.
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    Jan 27, 2012 6:12 PM GMT
    OK, why do I bother, but....

    Riddler, if someone took a pic of you without your knowledge and posted it online without your consent, you're good with that?

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    Jan 27, 2012 6:15 PM GMT
    meninlove said OK, why do I bother, but....

    Riddler, if someone took a pic of you without your knowledge and posted it online without your consent, you're good with that?



    Again a typical response devoid of critical thinking. Do you think it matters that this was on a social network in a public work environment?

    Does the punishment matter versus the "crime"? Look at the reason the student was suspended - for using the cell phone and not for taking the picture.
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    Jan 27, 2012 6:18 PM GMT
    D'oh, taking pictures is a function of the cell phone used. He used a cellphone.

    Again, are you good with someone taking your picture without you knowing and post it online without your permission? Pretty simple question.

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    Jan 27, 2012 6:23 PM GMT
    meninlove said D'oh, taking pictures is a function of the cell phone used. He used a cellphone.

    Again, are you good with someone taking your picture without you knowing and post it online without your permission? Pretty simple question.


    I like simple questions. I sure wouldn't want my picture taken and published online if I were.......sleeping on the job, picking someone's pocket, or maybe publicly defecating on a police car. Oh, by the way, was there some deeper point to the question?
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    Jan 27, 2012 6:32 PM GMT
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    meninlove said D'oh, taking pictures is a function of the cell phone used. He used a cellphone.

    Again, are you good with someone taking your picture without you knowing and post it online without your permission? Pretty simple question.


    I like simple questions. I sure wouldn't want my picture taken and published online if I were.......sleeping on the job, picking someone's pocket, or maybe publicly defecating on a police car. Oh, by the way, was there some deeper point to the question?


    The most common defense of the indefensible is of course the non-sequitur. But thanks for calling him on it. It's reasons like this, the bending over backwards for "understanding" teachers and their issues while throwing kids overboard, that our education system underperforms so greatly in our respective countries.
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    Jan 27, 2012 6:37 PM GMT
    Yes, the teacher could have narcolepsy among other things. The class could have been doing an assignment for two hours and people do nod off.
    I used to see execs nod off at meetings occasionally.

    http://www.examiner.com/pet-news-in-national/dick-cheney-nods-off-during-george-w-bush-farewell-speech-1-15-09-updated-with-video
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    Jan 27, 2012 6:39 PM GMT


    http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/narcolepsy/news-and-features.html
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    Jan 27, 2012 6:43 PM GMT
    I imagine the student taking and posting the photo without permission was the real reason for the suspension.

    I can't picture a student getting suspended for using their phone during school hours unless it's a repeated offense. Usually a teacher or some other school authority would just take the student's phone away for the parent(s) to retrieve later. But who knows how much schools crack down on phone usage on school grounds now. Cell phones weren't quite a ubiquitous commodity yet when I was in high school.
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    Jan 27, 2012 8:46 PM GMT
    School has policy. Student violates policy. Student is suspended as punishment for violating policy.

    The leap of logic that riddler goes for here is just ridiculous.

    One whose word do we have it that the teach was asleep?

    Other explanations might include: students were given an assignment and teacher leaned back for a moment because he had a headache.

    Students were asked to read aloud and teacher closed his eyes to listen (something I frequently do when listening to someone).

    Students were being dismissed for lunch or to their next class (as most high schools switch periods) and teacher leaned back to meditate between classes.

    And on and on...

    Mind you it is illegal in many disjunctions to use or distribute another person's image without their consent. A person at work does not suspend their right to privacy or consent to have their image used.
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    Jan 27, 2012 9:17 PM GMT
    Has anyone seen the actual pic yet? Has it gone viral? My first question is whether the teacher was actually asleep, or was the picture snapped during an eye blink? I routinely take at least 3 pics when snapping a group of friends, since somebody will almost always have their eyes closed at that second.

    And if this was a substitute teacher who really can be proven to have been asleep, the test for the school will be whether they call him in again. Except for larger districts that maintain an onsite pool of subs, many subs are on standby at home, and your phone doesn't ring unless you're regarded highly enough from past performance. This guy's penalty may be a lack of paid work.

    As for the suspension, I think many schools suspend students too easily. A visit to the school admin office, and maybe a letter home to parents, is adequate for most minor and first-time offenses. Hell, I had bloody brawls with other students in high school, and the worst I got was some tense moments in the Principal's office.