I''m a Diabetic.

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    Jan 28, 2012 5:41 AM GMT
    Monday night I went for my 3 month doctor visit and I got a call yesterday that I am now a diabetic. I knew eventually my lifestyle would catch up with me. I was told to come back in a month and cut out the crap, which I have done for the past week. Detoxing, is driving me nuts. I just want to reach in the closet, grab the bag of potato chips and just go nuts. Now on top of the diabetes I also only have one kidney, so my protein intake is limitted. Everything I ever ate is now off limits and I have no idea what I can or can't eat or how much I can eat.

    Any advice or a place to start would be great.

    My profile pic is what I look like now.
    This is what I wanted to look like:

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    Am I destined to be 135#'s the rest of my life?
    Should I even renew my membership next year? I haven't gone in 6 months. I don't like the trainers at the gyms, and I have no friends to work out with.

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    Jan 28, 2012 5:47 AM GMT
    You don't need friends to work out.

    What type of diabetes do you have? You did not mention it.

    Type 2 diabetes is 100% preventable and reversible if many instances.
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    Jan 28, 2012 6:11 AM GMT
    Using the word 'poz' implies hiv+ to most people... You are not diabetes positive... You have diabetes... I wouldnt use that in the future... Anywho... Plenty of people have diabetes, and plenty work out. You'll deal... Maybe its time to rethink your gym though...
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    Jan 28, 2012 6:11 AM GMT
    It's probably type 2, but I didn't ask, I was in shock. It took me a few days to get used to hearing it. I have to go back in a month and have it retested, but I know I can't live the way I'm living anymore.

    In regards to the gym, I'm always exhausted at the end of the day. I work 12 hours a day. 3 nights a week after work, I take care of my grandmother who is disabled. Sunday I babysit my 3 nephews all day, and go food shoppping at night with my mom who also is disabled and can't lift heavy items. I've tried going to the gym at 12am or 1am, but it screws up my whole week if I don't get enough sleep.

    I am going to do as much research and take out diebetic cookbooks and see what I can find. I hate to give up before I even begin on the gym and the training.
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    Jan 28, 2012 6:13 AM GMT
    KyleAD saidUsing the word 'poz' implies hiv+ to most people... You are not diabetes positive... You have diabetes... I wouldnt use that in the future... Anywho... Plenty of people have diabetes, and plenty work out. You'll deal... Maybe its time to rethink your gym though...


    you're right... probably insensitive on my part.
  • araphael

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    Jan 28, 2012 6:17 AM GMT
    I know that you may not believe this right now, having just found out this truth about your health (which is a good thing actually) but you have a potentially long life ahead of you; happily. Follow your doctor's prescriptions, particularly with regard to diet because these are very important, and you should be fine, I would think. I've made this diagnosis to people before and the reaction is strange to me sometimes. Manage the things you need to manage and you will be fine. I hope that I didn't miss something in your post that should make me think otherwise. I will read it again later. But based on what I thought I read, live long and prosper.
  • metta

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    Jan 28, 2012 6:23 AM GMT
    You only have one life. You need to make sure that you make time for yourself, even if that means you have to find a new career. And at this point in your life, it is critical that you take care of yourself. You can't wait to take care of yourself any more.

    Do you have any other family members that can help your other family members? You need to talk to them and make them understand your situation. I'm not telling you to give up everything, but you need to make sure that you have "your time" to take care of yourself. We all have busy lives and responsibilities.

    Eating healthy and regular exercise is vital for people with type 2 diabetes. Is there a way for you to go in the early mornings instead of the evenings. ( I will admit that I personally go really late to workout because of my schedule.) You need to find a way to do this.

    I have a friend that has type 2 and with eating really healthy and exercising he has been able to minimize the amount of medication he needs, which will help him even more over the long term.
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    Jan 28, 2012 6:37 AM GMT
    You really need to find out what type you have. It's a huge lifestyle change, especially if you are type 1. Type 2 is odd for a person who only weighs 135, but not impossible. On the other hand, your doctor not immediately beginning insulin is odd if you are type 1. There is a good chance they may have even hospitalized you to teach you the necessary life change and monitored your blood sugar highs and lows.


    If you are type 1, having high blood sugar levels can make it difficult to put on weight, but modern insulin therapies can make control much easier than in the past and allow you you to put on some weight. Ask about a pump or at the very least a once a day long acting insulin supplemented with short acting insulin every time you eat based on how many carbs you have at that meal. There is no reason why you can't work it out. In fact, it is beneficial for you to work out regardless of whether it is type 1 or type 2.
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    Jan 28, 2012 6:37 AM GMT
    micromachines saidMonday night I went for my 3 month doctor visit and I got a call yesterday that I am now a diabetic. I knew eventually my lifestyle would catch up with me. I was told to come back in a month and cut out the crap, which I have done for the past week. Detoxing, is driving me nuts. I just want to reach in the closet, grab the bag of potato chips and just go nuts. Now on top of the diabetes I also only have one kidney, so my protein intake is limitted. Everything I ever ate is now off limits and I have no idea what I can or can't eat or how much I can eat.

    Any advice or a place to start would be great.

    My profile pic is what I look like now.
    This is what I wanted to look like:

    6-2-175-blue.jpg

    http://life-gay.blogspot.com/2011/01/greg-kelley-pictures-info.html

    Am I destined to be 135#'s the rest of my life?
    Should I even renew my membership next year? I haven't gone in 6 months. I don't like the trainers at the gyms, and I have no friends to work out with.

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    Sorry to hear this. A few questions for you:

    1. What have been your blood sugar levels over the past three doctor visits?

    2. Did your doc talk to you about options for treatment?

    3. Did your doc attempt to provide multidisciplinary resources to help you overcome your newly diagnosed disease?

    In some instances, when a person is young and their blood sugar is not too high, it is quite possible to combat DM2 simply with diet and exercise. In some cases one can even reverse early stage DM2 (or metabolic syndrome) completely.

    I really hope you can find the support you need to overcome this. DM2 is nooooooooooooooooooooooooo joke. It affects essentially every system in our body in some way shape or form.

    Best of luck to ya
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    Jan 28, 2012 9:22 AM GMT
    Check out "Forks vs Knives on Netflix.
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    Jan 28, 2012 9:57 AM GMT
    chuckystud saidYou don't need friends to work out.

    What type of diabetes do you have? You did not mention it.

    Type 2 diabetes is 100% preventable and reversible if many instances.


    Saying type 2 diabetes is preventable is staring to look like a myth in many cases. It has been proven babies born of a low weight,can grow up to develop type 2 diabetes, even those who have always been slip and active and never eat much junk food; research in India has proven this, because many Indians grown to develop type 2 diabetes, and they are not fat or lazy; yet they were all born small babies; genitics can play a role too.
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    Jan 28, 2012 9:58 AM GMT
    At your height and weight watch out bud! If you are type II thats a pill (or pillz) that work w/cell insulin resistance plus diet and exercise. Type I and you are a solid insulin injecting man and yes your life has changed more so. Diabetes is NOTHING to be trifled with. Consult your DR and a specialist and follow their marching orders.
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    Jan 28, 2012 4:48 PM GMT
    thanks.
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    Jan 28, 2012 5:17 PM GMT
    TrueBlueAussie said
    chuckystud saidYou don't need friends to work out.

    What type of diabetes do you have? You did not mention it.

    Type 2 diabetes is 100% preventable and reversible if many instances.


    Saying type 2 diabetes is preventable is staring to look like a myth in many cases. It has been proven babies born of a low weight,can grow up to develop type 2 diabetes, even those who have always been slip and active and never eat much junk food; research in India has proven this, because many Indians grown to develop type 2 diabetes, and they are not fat or lazy; yet they were all born small babies; genitics can play a role too.


    I know folks are starting to say this, but, conventional science has said otherwise.

    The original poster here needs to talk to his health care professional. He probably has type 2 diabetes. (If he has type 1, insulin would almost certainly be indicated.)

    There are plenty of folks around who are insulin tolerant via bad diet, and lack of exercise, yet are not overweight. The guy who works on my Chuck Truck has had 3 digits removed, and consistently has high blood sugar, and refuses to exercise or actively treat it. He's gonna' need another toe chopped off soon. It's all black and icky.

    Insulin sensitivity can be changed with diet, and intense exercise. We're not talking a walk around the block but, rather, anaerobic exercise that gets your HBA-1C score down by pulling those sugar crystals out and metabolizing them.

    The original poster needs to monitor his blood sugar levels; know what good levels are; and know his A1C.

    On a recent trip to Charleston, WV, I was at the hotel and this guy and his wife struck up a conversation with me about bodybuilding. His wife had diabetic ulcers and narcosis, and looked to definitely be a type 2. She was sitting there with a plate full of jelly rolls / donuts. Sad, huh?

    Logan, with lived with me for 3.25 years, was a type 1 diabetic, with an especially brittle case, and issues of anxiety that would tip his blood sugar over. His lowest A1-C was 5.5 (really good...almost too low). Even though he was a young man, and ate very cleanly, Logan still battled the cholesterol battle that most type 1s do. A great kid, that I mentored, protected, cared for, and drove around for nearly four years, I would cry sometimes, watching Logan struggle with it. It seemed unfair for such a nice kid to have a disease, but, he took it all in stride most of the time. It was all an inspiration to me, and Logan is doing well, all things considered. He decided to back off his weight lifting, and we got him into a really great job where he can be independent and make a good living.

    Diabetes is serious business. The original poster needs to start educating himself at diabetes.org, and going from there.

    Bodybuilding and diabetes go hand in hand, with anaerobic exercise, and careful monitoring of diet. For a type 1, sudden dips in blood sugar can be a problem. We could drop Logan's blood sugar 70 points in three sets of legs. That's how weight lifting bangs on blood sugar.

    It's important to take action NOW, rather than later, when you have digits removed like my mechanic, Mike. Mike refuses to change anything in his life style and is suffering for it. Eventually, he'll probably not just lose digits, but, a limb.

    A blood sugar meter is $10 at any Walmart. That's step 1.

    Because I carry so much muscle, my metabolism grinds away on blood sugar. In my case, my blood sugar goes low (hypo), if I don't eat. Many folks mistake low blood sugar for headaches, or anxiety. Low blood sugar creates anxiety, and paranoia, among other things, and can be scary. One night, Logan walked about 20 miles, when he went hypo and was not cogent, and it took me hours to find him. (Eventually, he drank a bit of Gatorade and called me in a confused state.) I also saved Logan's life three times when he had seizures.

    Like I said, diabetes is not something you are going to manage on this forum. You'll want to educate yourself, and get in touch with a diabetic educator.

    What the fuck is up with your doctor letting you out of his office without giving you the bare bone basics of your diagnosis? There's no excuse for you not having been told more.

    Sounds like your blood sugar was high and the doctor is trying to see if cleaning up your diet will help it. You need to know what you blood sugar is, all the time.

    I'm not diabetic, but, I can tell that I've found a spot around 85 where I really start to have issues. I saw Logan at 16 a few times (dangerously low). I saw him as high as about 440. I've learned that I need to start eating around 90 (considered normal, pre meal) or I get issues with anxiety, and even confusion. How Logan could walk around with a blood sugar of 45 was pretty amazing (his insulin pump would get ahead of him or he would eat fewer carbs than his body was taking up / misjudged the carb amount). He used to tell me that he had gotten tolerant to it. Didn't keep us from a few trips to the doctor, and 1 trip to the E.R.
  • RHUK

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    Jan 28, 2012 5:36 PM GMT
    Sorry to hear about your diagnosis, life sounds pretty stressful at the moment.

    Ive been a diabetic (type 1) for 8 years now. I don't feel limited in my diet, except that I avoid Coke and gummy bears, and my blood sugar is kept under control through careful use of insulin. You will get use to the blood sugar monitoring and everything else that goes with diabetes, trust me itll just become another part of your daily routine.

    If you do carefully control your diet, and GO TO THE GYM regularly (chuckystud is right about improving insulin sensitivity), you can probably avoid needing insulin to control type 2 diabetes.

    Good luck, if youve got any questions, feel free to drop me a message
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    Feb 05, 2012 6:28 AM GMT
    TrueBlueAussie said
    chuckystud saidYou don't need friends to work out.

    What type of diabetes do you have? You did not mention it.

    Type 2 diabetes is 100% preventable and reversible if many instances.


    Saying type 2 diabetes is preventable is staring to look like a myth in many cases. It has been proven babies born of a low weight,can grow up to develop type 2 diabetes, even those who have always been slip and active and never eat much junk food; research in India has proven this, because many Indians grown to develop type 2 diabetes, and they are not fat or lazy; yet they were all born small babies; genitics can play a role too.


    Ummmmm....nooooooooooo! You cannot simply look at someone's appearance and say they will or will NOT develop DM2....That is a common misconception.

    Some people store more fat immediately around their organs rather than subQ. It is this fat that is the better predictor of whether someone will develop metabolic syndrome and later DM2.

    Also, we are not certain of prenatal care of the mothers of these children studied in India. There are several factors that can later predispose a child to becoming insulin dependent with DM2.

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    Feb 07, 2012 1:27 AM GMT
    I appreciate all the replies, but I don't want to turn this post into people going back and forth discrediting other peoples beliefs or what they are taught in regards to Diabetes 1 or 2.

    I had goals for this year, that included putting on muscle mass, (see http://www.realjock.com/Lux_) and being comfortable with my body. I even considered running a marathon (even if it killed me) but given my circumstances, it won't happen. I have other issues other than the diabetes, that will prohibit me from obtaining those goals.

    I am switching doctors, and seeing an endocrinologist. I also signed up for classes at the hospital. I also made an appointment to see a dietician to help me manage my diet. It will be an interesting rest of the year, and rest of my life.
    This is a part of my life as much as weight lifting / bodybuilding is for everyone else.

    This was just for me to see if my goals were attainable or not, and to accept the fact that I need to realistic and to figure out what the next stage of my life is.