Photographers!!! I need help?

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    Jan 28, 2012 1:56 PM GMT
    Okay, as most of you probably know. I'm doing a graphic design course. And I only have a cheap digital camera which = Cheap looking photos. I'm only a student but I'm looking into buying a SLR however on a budget. Sooo, my question is... What will work? I'm mainly looking to take photos in the dark and stuff so I need the light of the object to really stand out and stuff, Photography isn't really my area, more drawing and manipulation. However it's something I've found myself more invested in as times gone on. So yeahhh. Is it possible to buy an SLR like this under $300? The one I was looking at was $900... Woha haha. Also anyone know of any sources out their that will help in my development of photography? Thanks guys! Really appreciated icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 28, 2012 3:34 PM GMT
    Try to buy a decent camera body with a good zoom kit lens, then you can add to your lenses and accessories as your budget improves. I would go for something like a used Nikon D70S (excellent SLR), which will be well within your budget. Check out ebay:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikon-D70s-camera-kit-35-80mm-zoom-lens-DSLR-usb-cable-memory-card-/180804280757?pt=Digital_Cameras&hash=item2a18c661b5
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    Jan 28, 2012 3:35 PM GMT
    Mil8 saidTry to buy a decent camera body with a good zoom kit lens, then you can add to your lenses and accessories as your budget improves. I would go for something like a used Nikon D70S (excellent SLR), which will be well within your budget. Check out ebay.
    There's no way I'd let my used D70S go for under $500. icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 28, 2012 3:36 PM GMT
    You might want to consider checking out a few SLRs - seeing what you're comfortable with, and then making the investment. I think $300 will be tough to find anything decent, honestly. So, do a lil' research and save a few $$ as ya do. I love this site for trying lenses before I buy: http://www.borrowlenses.com/ - they also have camera rentals. Hope this helps.
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    Jan 28, 2012 3:39 PM GMT
    Mil8 saidTry to buy a decent camera body with a good zoom kit lens, then you can add to your lenses and accessories as your budget improves. I would go for a used Nikon D70S (excellent SLR), which will be well within your budget. Check out ebay.


    Ebay can help, but isn't as good as it used to be regarding deals.
    I'd also contact your school's administration, maybe get some input from the folks that do creative work for the university or school with their publications and advertising. They might point you in the right direction or offer some advice you haven't considered.
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    Jan 28, 2012 3:44 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Mil8 saidTry to buy a decent camera body with a good zoom kit lens, then you can add to your lenses and accessories as your budget improves. I would go for something like a used Nikon D70S (excellent SLR), which will be well within your budget. Check out ebay.
    There's no way I'd let my used D70S go for under $500. icon_wink.gif


    Okay, a D70 then. Still an excellent camera. icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 28, 2012 4:23 PM GMT
    For $300 you're going to have to get something older.

    I use a Pentax and love it so my rec is for a K10D

    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxk10d/default.asp
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    Jan 28, 2012 5:01 PM GMT
    On dark photography I reckon lense with large Aperture like 2.0/f 1.8/f or 1.4/f with great ISO sensitivity...

    What I know of the cheapest lense which does the job well is form Canon's 1.8/II despite its price it takes crisp fantastic sharp images... for me is Canon known for its image processing.

    Question no 2 : Under 300 ? its hard probably a second hand or if your willing to take Canon 1100D thats the best with Digic4 processor, but with that said its around 500=>300.

    Whatever maybe your choice is keep in mind with the Aperture and ISO sensitivity for a great low light/dark photography ,not forgetting RAW format.icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 28, 2012 5:38 PM GMT
    My suggestion is to look at the cameras you find in your price range, both new and used, and study the reviews. In addition to giving you excellent feedback on the cameras, you will learn what features and specs are important to you. As with most things, people can be biased for or against certain brands and models. I have found these sources to be impartial.

    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews

    http://www.steves-digicams.com/camera-reviews/
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    Jan 28, 2012 6:05 PM GMT
    I have the Nikon D40x, an older SLR but I love it. Just keep in mind if you plan to add lenses that whatever brand you select is the brand you'll have for a while.
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    Jan 28, 2012 6:08 PM GMT
    redox87 saidFor $300 you're going to have to get something older.

    I use a Pentax and love it so my rec is for a K10D

    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxk10d/default.asp


    I totally agree. One of the things I greatly enjoy about Pentax is the lens compatibility (ie K-mount). You can use a DSLR with analog lenses(which are not as pricey as a new lens). Very handy if you are on a budget. I own a Pentax K100 and use all the lenses from my K1000. I was in the same situation a few months back. Let it be known: Canon lenses are not compatible like this; you would have to get a bracket to connect them.

    Everyone before me has said very helpful information. It is kinda hard to add more when others are spot on with advice.
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    Jan 28, 2012 7:04 PM GMT
    Good luck man. This one is going to be tough
    I can't think of any awesome DSLR for under $300, sorry
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    Jan 28, 2012 7:09 PM GMT
    Don't even bother with slr cameras.

    I recommand a nikon 2010-2012 models. You get great flash in dark, don't consume as much battery life like most cameras, and has a great video recorder.

    It can zoom in very well for under $200. The 2012 model I have great.

    Hope this helped.
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    Jan 28, 2012 10:28 PM GMT
    I have a Canon Rebel XTi, I know they have a newer model (I got mine 2006) but I've done a lot of photography in the dark with it.

    These are mostly just random snapshots from years ago - none of them have been altered from their original state:

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    (sorry about the size, my computer can't find the original file so it's a screenshot from iphoto)

    The first pic here is the only one with flash:
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    166ktqw.jpg

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    Jan 28, 2012 10:37 PM GMT
    MrRunk saidDon't even bother with slr cameras.

    I recommand a nikon 2010-2012 models. You get great flash in dark, don't consume as much battery life like most cameras, and has a great video recorder.

    It can zoom in very well for under $200. The 2012 model I have great.

    Hope this helped.


    A DSLR can do RAW and from what I gather in the first post, the OP wants something good at high ISO without flash. Flash can ruin a good shot by messing with the ambient lighting. And DSLRs have bigger sensors. This normally translates to better image quality if the pixel count is equivalent.
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    Jan 29, 2012 12:58 AM GMT
    Anduru: Your white balance is incorrect on your third picture.

    Redox87: You are good with your info. I just want to add to your comment about RAW. Since Kristoff is doing graphic design, he will be able to manipulate his photos more efficiently with RAW. Manipulating photos from RAW reduces pixelation.
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    Jan 29, 2012 1:20 AM GMT
    Sounds like you just need something for your schoolwork. Probably not a good idea to spend money on a DSLR kit. It might be overkill for your needs and price range.

    Go buy a used Panasonic LX3 or new LX5. Or used Canon G11 or new S95. Each of those can be had for around $350 or less. They all take FANTASTIC low light pictures. And they have full manual controls for more creative options. And are more easier to carry around than a DSLR.

    I've had my Panasonic LX3 for a few years now. Only used the flash once. Just bought a Canon S100 (S95 replacement model), and the low light sensitivity is pretty awesome.

    Really, you don't need a DLSR to take great pictures.
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    Jan 29, 2012 2:01 AM GMT
    Kulai123 saidAnduru: Your white balance is incorrect on your third picture.
    I took 3 similar shots. This one is better:
    166ktqw.jpg


    anyways lol idgaf it's not like i posted it anywhere
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    Jan 29, 2012 2:20 AM GMT
    Anduru said
    Kulai123 saidAnduru: Your white balance is incorrect on your third picture.
    I took 3 similar shots. This one is better:
    166ktqw.jpg


    anyways lol idgaf it's not like i posted it anywhere


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    an incorrect white balance creates a certain color if it is wrong. Your setting is on daylight so the street lights create a yellow color within the picture. It is unnatural. If you see a setting with choices like: sunlight, shade, cloudy, tungsten, flourescant... that is where I am talking about. But as with my self portrait at night time, taken with a remote, captured on a 6 second exposure, I must not know what I am talking about...
  • Osiris_Blade

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    Jan 29, 2012 2:28 AM GMT
    Anduru: http://shieldofset.tumblr.com/ Just an example of my photography.
  • LuckyGuyKC

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    Jan 29, 2012 2:43 AM GMT
    I've had great luck buying reconditioned and used equipment from B & H Photo.

    If you ever get to NYC it is worth a trip into the store - simply amazing customer service. If you don't just give them a call and ask for the used camera counter.

    Lowest prices, stand by their stuff. I've been their customer for 15 years.
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    Jan 29, 2012 3:00 AM GMT
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    I love this!!! However, I still feel totally confused... So I'll just save up and wait til I start studying at Tafe... I think they'll cover the areas I'm interested in anyways. But I'll keep doing my research.

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    AND THIS! Exactley what I want to achieve!!! Gahhh, i'm so jealous haha!
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    Jan 29, 2012 7:24 AM GMT
    Kulai123 said[ridiculously huge picture]
    [long text that i had to cut because this computer is a fucking cunt]
    Do you not know what IDGAF means?
    I took photography classes when I was in my mid teens. I realized that IDGAF about all the technical shit because I know how to take a picture that I like, hence me not posting it anywhere.
    If all photographers followed the ~rules~ of photography the world would be full of boring photos anyways. If I wanted the photo to look different I could have easily spent 5 seconds in photoshop doing that.
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    Jan 29, 2012 7:34 AM GMT
    Kulai123 saidAnduru: http://shieldofset.tumblr.com/ Just an example of my photography.
    Oh good lord. Is that the best you've got?
    Technical skill does not make one a talented photographer, young padewan.
    The photos I posted are my junky photos LOL
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    Jan 29, 2012 7:38 AM GMT
    It's too bad that Kristoff probably has me on his ignore list.
    I'm not on my home computer atm but I have way more photos of photography in the dark with no flash that he would probably cream over.

    Here's a moderately cool shot that I happen to have on my tinypic account:
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