Gay hate for doing MMA? WTF?!

  • Rush_

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    Jan 29, 2012 6:32 PM GMT
    I was at a gay bar with some friends the other night and encountered a few things when word got out that I'm doing MMA/training to fight.

    1) Guys were absolutely repulsed by the fact I'm doing "straight guy" activities and didn't understand why I would ever want to do that.
    1a) Accusations that I'm just trying to hide being gay were thrown at me-all my training partners, instructors, friends, family and co-workers know I'm gay. I make no attempt to broadcast, but no attempt to hide.

    2) Some guys thought it was some kind of fetish. Riiiiiight, because I'm totally thinking that sweaty guy 30 lbs heavier than me is soooooo hot when he's got me in an armbar or throwing punches at my face.

    3) One guy got incredibly defensive of his TKD and Kempo training saying that MMA won't ever allow the stuff his teachers taught him, so he'd be able to take me out in real life. In response, I politely mentioned that I have background in some Gongfu, Kempo, Capoeira (Axe-they teach the martial aspects of the art as well), TKD, Muay Thai, Krav Maga and a few others, so I'm not just a "harmless, weekend-warrior" type guy who watches too much UFC.

    I just don't get these sorts of responses. Have any of you run into hate for doing the activity you're called to and love doing? How about people being obnoxiously defensive of their style right off the bat when they find out you train as well? It just seems so weird and kind of dumb to me...
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    Jan 29, 2012 9:06 PM GMT
    Thats to judgemental of everyone. Although I had similar issue with litterally every sport. I just gave up trying to work on a manga book.

    Just so I can save money to see Hatune Miku and, the other vocaloid.
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    Jan 29, 2012 9:28 PM GMT
    yup, but it has nothing 2 do w/ gay or straight. pretty much many ppl think their activity is the best, and everything else is a waste of time/stupid.
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    Feb 06, 2012 8:54 PM GMT
    Rush_ saidI was at a gay bar with some friends the other night and encountered a few things when word got out that I'm doing MMA/training to fight.

    1) Guys were absolutely repulsed by the fact I'm doing "straight guy" activities and didn't understand why I would ever want to do that.
    1a) Accusations that I'm just trying to hide being gay were thrown at me-all my training partners, instructors, friends, family and co-workers know I'm gay. I make no attempt to broadcast, but no attempt to hide.

    2) Some guys thought it was some kind of fetish. Riiiiiight, because I'm totally thinking that sweaty guy 30 lbs heavier than me is soooooo hot when he's got me in an armbar or throwing punches at my face.

    3) One guy got incredibly defensive of his TKD and Kempo training saying that MMA won't ever allow the stuff his teachers taught him, so he'd be able to take me out in real life. In response, I politely mentioned that I have background in some Gongfu, Kempo, Capoeira (Axe-they teach the martial aspects of the art as well), TKD, Muay Thai, Krav Maga and a few others, so I'm not just a "harmless, weekend-warrior" type guy who watches too much UFC.

    I just don't get these sorts of responses. Have any of you run into hate for doing the activity you're called to and love doing? How about people being obnoxiously defensive of their style right off the bat when they find out you train as well? It just seems so weird and kind of dumb to me...


    First of all you doing MMA is not a bad thing, it's about time I'm seeing gay people kick ass. It's not a straight thing and it's a guy thing and you're a guy so it's cool. I don't like gay guys that go round saying why are you doing straight guy stuff? they make gay people look bad.
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    Feb 06, 2012 8:56 PM GMT
    So they think women should not be doing MMA either?
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    Feb 06, 2012 9:00 PM GMT
    Didn't you kick their tiny smelly asses?
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    Feb 06, 2012 9:03 PM GMT
    Fuck. Them.
  • tuffguyndc

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    Feb 06, 2012 9:10 PM GMT
    first of all, congrats on your training buddy. i have always been asked to do it but i am think i am a little too old for that now. dude, you have to be prepared for the haters on both sides. i am really surprised you would get so much flack about doing something you love. if you were you i would have told all of them to go fuck themselves which i am sure most of them probably already do. keep us posted on your competition
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    Feb 06, 2012 9:12 PM GMT
    OMG! Love MMA fighting! Watch UFC and old Pride fights with my whole family! That is awesome you didn't let your sexuality stop from going after it to start. You done any televised fights yet? What are your stats? Fighting style? Forget the Super Bowels, I want to see some MMA!

    <--- Excited =D
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    Feb 06, 2012 9:12 PM GMT
    Rush_ saidI was at a gay bar with some friends the other night and encountered a few things when word got out that I'm doing MMA/training to fight.

    1) Guys were absolutely repulsed by the fact I'm doing "straight guy" activities and didn't understand why I would ever want to do that.
    1a) Accusations that I'm just trying to hide being gay were thrown at me-all my training partners, instructors, friends, family and co-workers know I'm gay. I make no attempt to broadcast, but no attempt to hide.

    2) Some guys thought it was some kind of fetish. Riiiiiight, because I'm totally thinking that sweaty guy 30 lbs heavier than me is soooooo hot when he's got me in an armbar or throwing punches at my face.

    3) One guy got incredibly defensive of his TKD and Kempo training saying that MMA won't ever allow the stuff his teachers taught him, so he'd be able to take me out in real life. In response, I politely mentioned that I have background in some Gongfu, Kempo, Capoeira (Axe-they teach the martial aspects of the art as well), TKD, Muay Thai, Krav Maga and a few others, so I'm not just a "harmless, weekend-warrior" type guy who watches too much UFC.

    I just don't get these sorts of responses. Have any of you run into hate for doing the activity you're called to and love doing? How about people being obnoxiously defensive of their style right off the bat when they find out you train as well? It just seems so weird and kind of dumb to me...



    congrats on your training and lots of luck to you, who cares what others say
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    Feb 06, 2012 9:19 PM GMT
    Never heard that about MMA. One of my RJ buddies is heavily involved with MMA and is training with his partner who is intending on turning professional.
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    Feb 06, 2012 9:28 PM GMT
    Dont listen to them. They are just dumbasses trapped in their own little bubble thinking that they are right about everything. Congratulations on your MMA fighting, do what you enjoy doing and dont listen to what other people think about you
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    Feb 06, 2012 9:35 PM GMT
    Haven't taken any shit for MMA yet, just for hunting. I think it's great you're into MMA - and it sounds like you're damn good at it. i'd roll with u anytime! Good luck!
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    Feb 06, 2012 9:35 PM GMT
    If they don't like it who gives a fuck. They weren't born to define who you are.
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    Feb 06, 2012 9:38 PM GMT
    sound like jealousy to me.
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    Feb 06, 2012 9:40 PM GMT
    Voltaire saidHaven't taken any shit for MMA yet, just for hunting. I think it's great you're into MMA - and it sounds like you're damn good at it. i'd roll with u anytime! Good luck!


    This.
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    Feb 06, 2012 9:44 PM GMT
    ignore them. obviously those are people you don't want to associate with anymore. you're better off.

    You keep goin with that MMA!! that's awesome, be proud.
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    Feb 06, 2012 10:03 PM GMT
    I think there is a total social evolution of gay culture and it's inclusive of things like MMA fighting. RJ is proof of that diversification because it caters to what once was considered the exclusive territory of the heterosexual man, "Sports".
    The gay man is no longer subject to outmoded stereotypes that condescend femininity and physical inferiority. Unfortunately there are a great number of gay men who have come to embrace those stereotypes and hide behind them, forgetting the social benefits that our varied sexual preference is based on, *diversity*. A diversity that enriches from within and outside of our LGBT community.

    You my friend are a living example of our social evolution as a local and world community. You are a new type of gay man that we are lucky to have with us.
    You are a fore bearer of the evolving 'gay identity', fight with pride and wear their judgment as a badge of honor, they know no what they say and do.
    I'm proud to count you as part of my community... am going to a MMA cage fight on Saturday with a guy I'm seeing. I'd totally be cheering for you!
    (Just like I am here) ;)
  • Rush_

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    Feb 07, 2012 4:08 AM GMT
    knowwonder saidOMG! Love MMA fighting! Watch UFC and old Pride fights with my whole family! That is awesome you didn't let your sexuality stop from going after it to start. You done any televised fights yet? What are your stats? Fighting style? Forget the Super Bowels, I want to see some MMA!

    <--- Excited =D


    My styles:
    Muay Thai, Kempo, Capoeira regional (trained with Axe-they actually teach you how to use it!), a little BJJ (really, REALLY need to work on this) and bits of TKD, Krav Maga and some others for good measure.

    Stats are 0/0/0-I'm actually prepping for my first fight (in a few months) right now. I'm fuckin stoked for it!

    And to everyone else-thanks for all the support!! Means a ton, as I'm sure most of you would guess. And of course I'm gonna keep everyone posted. There's one guy I know on Facebook from the LGBT Martial Artists group and he did an interview with the Washington Post not too long ago about being an openly gay MMA fighter. Dunno when it'll be published, but I'll link it when it is-time to see some representation in other sports!
  • Rush_

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    Feb 07, 2012 4:12 AM GMT
    EasilyDistracted saidI think there is a total social evolution of gay culture and it's inclusive of things like MMA fighting. RJ is proof of that diversification because it caters to what once was considered the exclusive territory of the heterosexual man, "Sports".
    The gay man is no longer subject to outmoded stereotypes that condescend femininity and physical inferiority. Unfortunately there are a great number of gay men who have come to embrace those stereotypes and hide behind them, forgetting the social benefits that our varied sexual preference is based on, *diversity*. A diversity that enriches from within and outside of our LGBT community.

    You my friend are a living example of our social evolution as a local and world community. You are a new type of gay man that we are lucky to have with us.
    You are a fore bearer of the evolving 'gay identity', fight with pride and wear their judgment as a badge of honor, they know no what they say and do.
    I'm proud to count you as part of my community... am going to a MMA cage fight on Saturday with a guy I'm seeing. I'd totally be cheering for you!
    (Just like I am here) ;)


    YES! You said what I was thinking perfectly! There is no outdated "gay identity" anymore-everyone is evolving beyond stereotypes. We're all under the LGBT umbrella and should embrace the diversity, not shun it because it is different and scary.

    Merci beaucoup for posting!
  • tyler_helm

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    Feb 07, 2012 4:13 AM GMT
    cjs176 saidDont listen to them. They are just dumbasses trapped in their own little bubble thinking that they are right about everything. Congratulations on your MMA fighting, do what you enjoy doing and dont listen to what other people think about you


    And didn't you know you could only be "gay" as long as you are approved by the basest, simpletons in the Club.
  • wldct1998

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    Feb 07, 2012 4:21 AM GMT
    Ditto to all that's been said here so far. And I couldn't find the LGBT martial artist group on Facebook. Is that the name of it? I thought there was only one out MMA fighter - Shad Smith. Who else is there, besides (soon) you?
  • TheBizMan

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    Feb 07, 2012 10:43 PM GMT
    One of the main reasons I wanna get bigger is to train in MMA or Muay Thai. I woulda told those sissy to fuck off!
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    Feb 07, 2012 10:57 PM GMT
    who the hell picks on a MMA fighter??? somebody dumb! don't sweat it. You have every right.
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    Feb 07, 2012 11:20 PM GMT
    Rush_ saidI was at a gay bar with some friends the other night and encountered a few things when word got out that I'm doing MMA/training to fight.

    1) Guys were absolutely repulsed by the fact I'm doing "straight guy" activities and didn't understand why I would ever want to do that.
    1a) Accusations that I'm just trying to hide being gay were thrown at me-all my training partners, instructors, friends, family and co-workers know I'm gay. I make no attempt to broadcast, but no attempt to hide.

    2) Some guys thought it was some kind of fetish. Riiiiiight, because I'm totally thinking that sweaty guy 30 lbs heavier than me is soooooo hot when he's got me in an armbar or throwing punches at my face.

    3) One guy got incredibly defensive of his TKD and Kempo training saying that MMA won't ever allow the stuff his teachers taught him, so he'd be able to take me out in real life. In response, I politely mentioned that I have background in some Gongfu, Kempo, Capoeira (Axe-they teach the martial aspects of the art as well), TKD, Muay Thai, Krav Maga and a few others, so I'm not just a "harmless, weekend-warrior" type guy who watches too much UFC.

    I just don't get these sorts of responses. Have any of you run into hate for doing the activity you're called to and love doing? How about people being obnoxiously defensive of their style right off the bat when they find out you train as well? It just seems so weird and kind of dumb to me...



    There's nothing wrong with whipping your dick out in this forum. After all, it is RealJock, but much of what you've posted reeks of bullshit.

    I know several gay guys into MMA, and I've never met a single gay guy in NYC - the most liberal place in the freakin' world - who considers MMA to be a "straight guy" activity, or are repulsed by it.