Coseplay is it wrong?

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    Jan 30, 2012 1:21 AM GMT
    I am into coseplay with friends. Although most people hate it. Is it wrong to dress up in a way that's uncommon.

    I mean I love to act movie stars do it every day. So whats so wrong with common people doing it.

    Why is it fair famous people get fame dressing up in any way they want. But, if a regular person dresses up people hate it.

    Does anyone else think thats crazy and, unfair. To be judged when famous people do it daily while acting perky.

    I do it for fun plus I like some of the outfits like full metal alchemist ed elric. I understand his life perfect. I'm smaller than my brother, wanted to learn alchemy, and always loved long coats with glaves. It a classic from older times.

    Sometimes I dress up as Nintendo characters Ash Catchem and Link. They have similar personaloties to me accrding to alot of people.

    I mainly do link since I found out I have a voice very close to his voice actor in Ocarina of time.

    I don't do this for attention, won't do yaoi (guy love coseplay), or any adult coseplay. I just love the outfits and, roleplay.

    I once dressed as link stood at a corner doing the Carameldansen as Link my friend was recording me and, alot of people waved as they drove by. It was one of the coolest reaction that I would have thought happened. Know kids think I'm the town Link.
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    Jan 30, 2012 1:51 AM GMT
    Cosplay. It's not morally wrong.. it's just detestable.

    Part of it is the blatant willingness to go to extremes to get attention. The other part is that people fail intensely to look anything like the original or even to not look like shit.
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    Jan 30, 2012 5:47 AM GMT
    SkinnyBitch saidCosplay. It's not morally wrong.. it's just detestable.

    Part of it is the blatant willingness to go to extremes to get attention. The other part is that people fail intensely to look anything like the original or even to not look like shit.


    He's right.
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    Jan 30, 2012 6:01 AM GMT
    I see nothing wrong with cosplay.
    Ever since we were children, we have dressed up and played "pretend". We allow our creative and imaginative spirit to be expressed.

    Also, from a freedom of expression standpoint, where do we draw the line?

    We all dress in costumes every single day. God knows how long it takes me to pick out my wardrobe for the day even if I'm going to the gym and putting on a pair of jeans, a t-shirt and some kicks (which jeans, which t-shirt, which kicks).

    OP: Ignore any who would put down cosplay. Be yourself. Be free. Express yourself. If the world engaged in more cosplay, maybe there would be less need for laxatives.

    San Francisco is resplendent with "cosplay" in oh so many forms at every hour of the day. From the drag that you see in the Financial District, to the drag you see in the Castro and on Folsom Street. It's all drag. It's all a means of expression. It's all beautiful.

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    Jan 30, 2012 6:05 AM GMT
    GAMRican said

    Also, from a freedom of expression standpoint, where do we draw the line?

    We all dress in costumes every single day. God knows how long it takes me to pick out my wardrobe for the day even if I'm going to the gym and putting on a pair of jeans, a t-shirt and some kicks (which jeans, which t-shirt, which kicks).



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    This is where we draw the line.
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    Jan 30, 2012 6:06 AM GMT
    GAMRican saidI see nothing wrong with cosplay.
    Ever since we were children, we have dressed up and played "pretend". We allow our creative and imaginative spirit to be expressed.

    Also, from a freedom of expression standpoint, where do we draw the line?

    We all dress in costumes every single day. God knows how long it takes me to pick out my wardrobe for the day even if I'm going to the gym and putting on a pair of jeans, a t-shirt and some kicks (which jeans, which t-shirt, which kicks).

    OP: Ignore any who would put down cosplay. Be yourself. Be free. Express yourself. If the world engaged in more cosplay, maybe there would be less need for laxatives.

    San Francisco is resplendent with "cosplay" in oh so many forms at every hour of the day. From the drag that you see in the Financial District, to the drag you see in the Castro and on Folsom Street. It's all drag. It's all a means of expression. It's all beautiful.





    Gam I love you but as an anime freak.

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    Does not equal this
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    However in Rupaul's defense He is one amazingly looking drag queen. He looks amazing as a female and as a male.
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    Jan 30, 2012 6:14 AM GMT
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    Cosplay fail.
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    Jan 30, 2012 6:15 AM GMT
    Having been to a few anime conventions myself, I think cosplay is fun! Unfortunately I didn't cosplay at any of the cons I went to because I was broke and lazy. But I definitely saw some very impressive costumes at each on from all sorts of animes and sci-fi flicks. You'd be surprised how much time, money, and effort people put into their costume because it's probably their one chance to have fun like that outside of Halloween.

    The only ones who freak me out are unattractive girls who cosplay the skankiest anime character they could find and leave little to the imagine with their costume. Ew.
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    Jan 30, 2012 6:16 AM GMT
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    Cosplay win.

    And I'd totally ravage the dude playing Mario.
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    Jan 30, 2012 6:18 AM GMT
    @Skinny/RasB - I disagree. Just because people are not "runway models" does should not limit people's right to express themselves in how they look, dress, and live.

    None of those people are hurting anybody. They are simply expressing themselves in their own way.

    Are either of you prepared to have others judge and either force or limit you in how you express yourselves?

    If so, then please allow me to be your arbiter.

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    Jan 30, 2012 6:18 AM GMT
    I wouldn't say there's anything wrong with cosplaying, I've even tried it at Otakon once. As long as you're in the right environment for it and just having fun it's all good. Though there are definitely people who should stop and think "Is this character really appropriate for me?"

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    Jan 30, 2012 6:20 AM GMT
    GAMRican said@Skinny/RasB - I disagree. Just because people are not "runway models" does should not limit people's right to express themselves in how they look, dress, and live.

    None of those people are hurting anybody. They are simply expressing themselves in their own way.

    Are either of you prepared to have others judge and either force or limit you in how you express yourselves?

    If so, then please allow me to be your arbiter.

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    I'mm not saying you have to be a run way model. Just pick a character that fits your body type. However is it drag when the girls dress like guy characters??
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    Jan 30, 2012 6:21 AM GMT
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    Cosplay win.

    And I'd totally ravage the dude playing Mario.



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    Jan 30, 2012 6:25 AM GMT
    Wow, this is the first time I've heard of cosplay. I think it's cool for people to have fun like that in a party or get together. Could make for an interesting evening.
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    Jan 30, 2012 6:29 AM GMT
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    I would applaud BOTH of these people for expressing themselves and for having fun. Why shouldn't either one of them dress up in the character of their choosing. For the time they are in their costume and are in their "role", they are channeling creative and beautiful artistic expression.

    I had a bf who absolutely had a tin ear. He couldn't carry a tune with a dump truck. I was a music major before I changed to Hospitality Management. I have a pretty good ear. Whenever "Shawn" would sing, it was not what would make Simon Cowell smile and say bravo. However, whenever Shawn would sing, I would smile (even though my eardums were bleeding) because I knew that in his heart, in his soul he was happy and making a joyful noise.

    When we are children, many of us were very happy just playing with each other in our imaginative and fantasy worlds. Then, something happened. We all needed to be "cool" and to fit in. And that innocent, playful spirit of youth gets bottled up, shoved in the dark, and if allowed to...eventually dies. People become hard, cynical, cold, and with no sense of joy or humor. That is sad.

    Also, there is a business side to "play". More and more cutting edge organizations are recognizing the value of "play" and "pretend" in pursuit of innovation, creativity, design, and meaning.

    So put on your drag (whatever it may be) and let er rip, brotato chip!

    If you don't feel comfortable doing it where you are, too bad.

    Come to San Francisco where spirits, souls, and hearts still live free.
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    Jan 30, 2012 6:32 AM GMT
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    GAMRican said@Skinny/RasB - I disagree. Just because people are not "runway models" does should not limit people's right to express themselves in how they look, dress, and live.

    None of those people are hurting anybody. They are simply expressing themselves in their own way.

    Are either of you prepared to have others judge and either force or limit you in how you express yourselves?

    If so, then please allow me to be your arbiter.

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    I'mm not saying you have to be a run way model. Just pick a character that fits your body type. However is it drag when the girls dress like guy characters??


    Why should costume be limited by physical gender? Who is to say that any person does not yearn, for at least a few hours, to experience what it's like to be viewed as a different gender? Some people may have the realisation that their born physical gender is NOT aligned with their psychological gender. Awareness can be the first step in achieving change towards a more fulfilled and happy life. Why would anybody want to limit anybody elses' happiness?

    Same thing for body type. Why can't somebody play and pretend to be whatever character they wish?
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    Jan 30, 2012 6:34 AM GMT
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    Jan 30, 2012 6:38 AM GMT
    I still want to do a Vega cosplay. Mmmmm, Vega

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    Jan 30, 2012 6:44 AM GMT


    And to those who hold RuPaul up as somebody who "should" do drag, she's got some words which bolster MY case.

    From: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/13/rupaul-on-rupauls-drag-race-obama-tranny_n_1205203.html


    Of the ABC sitcom, "Work It," in which two straight men dress in drag in order to get jobs and which has been criticized by gay and transgender activists for mocking transgender women, RuPaul implores the activists: "Don't take life so seriously... We live in a culture where everyone is offended by everything."

    On Lance Bass's apology for using the word "tranny," Rupaul says: "It's ridiculous! It's ridiculous!... I love the word "tranny"...And I hate the fact that he's apologized. I wish he would have said, 'F-you, you tranny jerk!'"

    And RuPaul has some observations about presidential politics: "Politicians are really like show people, people in show business -- except that they have not as good costumes in politics. You have to appeal to the masses in show business. You appeal to Betty and Joe Beer Can. For someone like Obama to survive -- he's a very smart man -- he's had to do some dumb things because people don't want the truth. It's the same thing with drag."


    Tolerance of diversity in expression. Consider it, guys. Don't you want to be free to express yourselves without judgement?
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    Jan 30, 2012 6:45 AM GMT
    It's a free country, do as you like. Just be prepared to get laughed at if you look or act silly. That's freedom too.

    I don't find cosplay sexy at all, I find it infantile and NOT creative,the opposite of creative, derivative.

    I don't really equate cosplay with drag either, I have more sympathy for drag.
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    Jan 30, 2012 6:46 AM GMT
    Nothing is wrong with cosplay, I mean there are times when I see it in public and wonder "Whats the event" because expensive shit like that should be saved for events and not just walking around but overall if I see it I can't detest an individual in their clothing choice.
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    Jan 30, 2012 6:51 AM GMT
    GAMRican said@Skinny/RasB - I disagree. Just because people are not "runway models" does should not limit people's right to express themselves in how they look, dress, and live.

    None of those people are hurting anybody. They are simply expressing themselves in their own way.

    Are either of you prepared to have others judge and either force or limit you in how you express yourselves?

    If so, then please allow me to be your arbiter.

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    I'm sorry, but you're wrong. This isn't "creative and beautiful artistic expression". They are imitating a character in a cartoon or video game. There is nothing creative about copying or wannabeing.

    Secondly, I said it's not wrong or illegal. I said it makes people hate them because of the first two reasons I stated. Exposes desperate need for attention and makes almost everyone look like the uncoolest person on the planet. Doesn't matter if they're hot or male or female, the average person will look at a cosplayer and think "oh dear god I didn't know people this sad existed". Case in point the He-man picture. Hot body, but I would rather swallow egg yolks than know him.

    Yes, I am prepared to have others judge me if I make myself look like a pathetic wannabe standing around trying to get noticed.
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    Jan 30, 2012 7:11 AM GMT
    tuckers_kahuna saidIt's a free country, do as you like. Just be prepared to get laughed at if you look or act silly. That's freedom too.

    I don't find cosplay sexy at all, I find it infantile and NOT creative,the opposite of creative, derivative.

    I don't really equate cosplay with drag either, I have more sympathy for drag.


    Yes, some people will laugh with others, and some will laugh at others. I've experienced both and can hold my head up high in both scenarios.

    I recall one night I walked into the Fort Lauderdale Eagle with my boy on a leash. He was dressed in a black contactor bag, white socks, and boots. I was wearing my chaps, a leather harness, engineer boots...and baby blue satin lace panties. The hardcore players in the scene knew what a twisted fuck I was and smirked. The Old Guard clucked their tongues in disdain. When the scene began, I ripped the contractor bag off of boy and he was wearing pink satin lace panties and a sign around his neck which read, "Public utility". I chained him to the Saint Andrews cross. This was a flogging scene like that was intense, beastly, and broke out into a sexual frenzy. He was such a good boy. He knew how to please me in public. He cried. He screamed. He begged. He growled like a wild animal. I parked him in the urinal for about an hour. He knew how to showcase his master's training. Onlookers were disgusted, shocked, stunned, titilated, and turned-on. It was fun watching all of those different reactions and JUDGEMENT in what was supposed to be such a liberal environment.

    I knew who the hypocrites were after that evening, and who was worthy of my time and talent.

    Being laughed at has actually become a talent which can be put to profitable use in the right situations. I was on a plane where this asshat was being, well an "asshat" about sharing the armrest. I simply snuggled up towards him, turned my head towards him, locked eyes with him with that dreamy gaze, licked my lips, and winked. He immediately asked the flight attendant to be seated elsewhere.

    Laugh and judge as you all will. We the "cosplayers" (or whatever name we choose to call ourselves) are really the ones in control over the intolerant "conservatives" and the haters.
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    Jan 30, 2012 7:14 AM GMT
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    GAMRican said@Skinny/RasB - I disagree. Just because people are not "runway models" does should not limit people's right to express themselves in how they look, dress, and live.

    None of those people are hurting anybody. They are simply expressing themselves in their own way.

    Are either of you prepared to have others judge and either force or limit you in how you express yourselves?

    If so, then please allow me to be your arbiter.

    I'll be gentle. icon_twisted.gif


    I'm sorry, but you're wrong. This isn't "creative and beautiful artistic expression". They are imitating a character in a cartoon or video game. There is nothing creative about copying or wannabeing.

    Secondly, I said it's not wrong or illegal. I said it makes people hate them because of the first two reasons I stated. Exposes desperate need for attention and makes almost everyone look like the uncoolest person on the planet. Doesn't matter if they're hot or male or female, the average person will look at a cosplayer and think "oh dear god I didn't know people this sad existed". Case in point the He-man picture. Hot body, but I would rather swallow egg yolks than know him.

    Yes, I am prepared to have others judge me if I make myself look like a pathetic wannabe standing around trying to get noticed.


    How about have a lovely cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP, Bitch.
    Cosplayers wants attention, so what, your endless whining is also a form of grabbing attention, and of a worse kind.

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    Jan 30, 2012 7:28 AM GMT
    OP: Be young. Stay young at heart and in spirit. Be beautiful. Be expressive. Know that I am smiling because you have found an expressive outlet which allows your spirit to be joyful. You have made me happy just letting me know that you're courageous, confident, and at the same time in touch with your creative innocence to "put yourself out there".

    It's time for me to go to sleep now. I'm happy. At 46, I'm not as physically young as I ever was, but I am still young at heart and in spirit. And, I still do "cosplay" (even in the corporate board rooms). And, my days are beautiful and full of wonder. I hope all your days are beautiful and full of wonder.

    G'nite!

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