Puerto Vallarta!

  • asana

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    Jan 31, 2012 4:29 PM GMT
    I'm going next week for my annual trip icon_smile.gif Feb 9-21. Anyone else?
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    Jan 31, 2012 5:29 PM GMT
    Awesome! That's a long trip. I'll miss you by a month, I'll be there March 19-28. Where are you staying?
  • asana

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    Jan 31, 2012 6:20 PM GMT
    My parents live there, so I'm staying with them.
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    Jan 31, 2012 6:25 PM GMT

    Aw tough life Kippler. How do I convince my parents to move there so I have a place to stay for free?????

  • asana

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    Jan 31, 2012 6:50 PM GMT
    Marry me ;)
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    Jan 31, 2012 6:53 PM GMT
    Dang.....how about getting engaged?
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    Jan 31, 2012 6:57 PM GMT
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    Jan 31, 2012 7:15 PM GMT
    But seriously, you're lucky... PV is one of my favorite places to visit. I go every year, last time for two weeks in November, and going for nine days in March.

    When you're there, stop in to the Swedes bar in Old Town, find the owner Morgan (the Swede), and tell him hi from David in Boston. He'll thank me for sending cute boys to his bar (oh, and it's a cool, quiet hangout overlooking the town, too).

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    Jan 31, 2012 9:18 PM GMT
    Gladly icon_smile.gif Morgan's super hot.
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    Jan 31, 2012 9:25 PM GMT
    I just booked my airfare to Italy take the month of June off and plant myself in a fishing village... WOO HOO!..


    oh shit... now I really have to do this... errr...
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    Jan 31, 2012 9:30 PM GMT
    I googled the Swedes bar. The place looks beautiful and Morgan is a hottie!
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    Jan 31, 2012 9:46 PM GMT
    EasilyDistracted saidI just booked my airfare to Italy take the month of June off and plant myself in a fishing village... WOO HOO!..


    oh shit... now I really have to do this... errr...



    I spent a year in a small town in Italy - best time of my life icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 31, 2012 10:04 PM GMT
    Kippler saidGladly icon_smile.gif Morgan's super hot.




    YES he is. And one of the sweetest guys I've met.
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    Jan 31, 2012 11:49 PM GMT
    I've read some articles about violence increasing in Mexico along with a few reports of Canadian tourists killings and assaults. I'm going to Maya Riviera next May, how safe is this area of Mexico?
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    Jan 31, 2012 11:56 PM GMT
    charlitos saidI've read some articles about violence increasing in Mexico along with a few reports of Canadian tourists killings and assaults. I'm going to Maya Riviera next May, how safe is this area of Mexico?


    The reports are completely sensationalized to sell headlines.
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    Jan 31, 2012 11:58 PM GMT
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    charlitos saidI've read some articles about violence increasing in Mexico along with a few reports of Canadian tourists killings and assaults. I'm going to Maya Riviera next May, how safe is this area of Mexico?


    The reports are completely sensationalized to sell headlines.


    Who tries to sell headlines?
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    Feb 01, 2012 12:00 AM GMT
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    charlitos saidI've read some articles about violence increasing in Mexico along with a few reports of Canadian tourists killings and assaults. I'm going to Maya Riviera next May, how safe is this area of Mexico?


    The reports are completely sensationalized to sell headlines.



    There's that... but there is some crazy shit happening in Mexico. The tourism ares seem to be immune to most of it and aren't really any more dangerous than cities in other countries (sometimes I feel safer walking around those parts of Mexico at night than I do my own neighborhood). The same rules apply no matter where you're traveling: Don't wear a lot of bling, don't wander around alone, don't get drunk and do/say stupid shit, don't get mixed up with the wrong kinds of locals. Just my 2ยข.

    Mexico can't afford to lose much more tourism money - they protect those areas.
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    Feb 01, 2012 12:02 AM GMT
    DJBoston said
    Ariodante said
    charlitos saidI've read some articles about violence increasing in Mexico along with a few reports of Canadian tourists killings and assaults. I'm going to Maya Riviera next May, how safe is this area of Mexico?


    The reports are completely sensationalized to sell headlines.



    There's that... but there is some crazy shit happening in Mexico. The tourism ares seem to be immune to most of it


    This pretty much. Unless you want to wander off alone into some place in the inner city (something which locals, like myself, would never do), you're in no danger.
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    Feb 01, 2012 12:08 AM GMT
    I have not heard of any (at least not many) tourists encountering the cartel violence. All my friends and relatives in Mexico are alive and kicking and going about their daily lives without a problem.

    For one thing, most of the problems are isolated to certain areas of the country. Secondly, they mainly involve the government and rivaling cartels.
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    Feb 01, 2012 6:30 AM GMT
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    charlitos saidI've read some articles about violence increasing in Mexico along with a few reports of Canadian tourists killings and assaults. I'm going to Maya Riviera next May, how safe is this area of Mexico?


    The reports are completely sensationalized to sell headlines.


    Laugh! Maybe so but Canadian tourists are getting hurt there. The latest one that set off a firestorm here was a young Cdn woman who received massive facial injuries in the elevator of a 5-start resort. Didn't help that soon as the story broke a Toronto-area couple claimed the husband was beaten into a coma just outside the same resort not long beforehand.

    The thinking here is that the Mexican government is downplaying the danger to protect the tourism industry. Can't say I blame them. Back in the 90's some Canadian tourists were murdered in a short period of time in Florida. Almost immediately tourism in Florida dropped big time. (Who knew Canadians pump so much into the Floridian economy!) The tourism industry started freaking and the Governor was quick to get on the news promising the death penalty for the latest perpetrator because of the impact on the local economy (if I recall correctly).
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    Feb 01, 2012 7:29 AM GMT
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    charlitos saidI've read some articles about violence increasing in Mexico along with a few reports of Canadian tourists killings and assaults. I'm going to Maya Riviera next May, how safe is this area of Mexico?


    The reports are completely sensationalized to sell headlines.


    I don't know man, latest records state that the murdering rate in mexico increased exponentially in less than 5 years going all the way from 10 killings per day to 56 killings per day.

    They were showing on the news this guy who had to go look for his ex-girlfriend who never made it back from Mexico. Mexican police did very little to find her and they simply stopped looking. This guy went to Mexico himself to the exact same place looking for his ex, he found a dead body buried in the sand which wasn't hers and later on he did find his ex along with her boyfriend hurried in the sand with stabs in their throats. Supposedly this beach Punta Arena where they were found is a dumping ground for organized crime.

    What worries me is not so much the existing violence but how little the government does to prevent things like these from happening tithe point that The Canadian government had to issue a warning:

    "Canadians travelling to Mexico should exercise a high degree of caution due to a deteriorating security situation in many parts of the country. While most major tourist areas have not been affected by the extreme levels of violence in the northern border region, it is highly advisable to travel to Mexico by air. High levels of criminal activity, as well as occasional demonstrations and protests, remain a concern throughout the country.
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    Feb 01, 2012 8:33 AM GMT
    Been there many years ago... you'll have fun but be sure to SPEND serious money when you go. I know too many people that go cheap and end up in the shitty part of PV.
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    Feb 01, 2012 8:37 AM GMT
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    charlitos saidI've read some articles about violence increasing in Mexico along with a few reports of Canadian tourists killings and assaults. I'm going to Maya Riviera next May, how safe is this area of Mexico?


    The reports are completely sensationalized to sell headlines.


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    All I can do is give you my point of view as someone who currently lives in Mexico and who's lived in Mexico for over 20 years.
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    Feb 01, 2012 1:05 PM GMT
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    charlitos saidI've read some articles about violence increasing in Mexico along with a few reports of Canadian tourists killings and assaults. I'm going to Maya Riviera next May, how safe is this area of Mexico?


    The reports are completely sensationalized to sell headlines.


    I don't know man, latest records state that the murdering rate in mexico increased exponentially in less than 5 years going all the way from 10 killings per day to 56 killings per day.



    Just for some perspective on this fact: There are about 46 murders a day in the US. But that won't stop you from taking a vacation in Miami, I assume?

    If you want specifics, the US State Dept. is the best source for travel warnings. http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_5440.html

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    Feb 01, 2012 4:54 PM GMT
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    charlitos said
    Ariodante said
    charlitos saidI've read some articles about violence increasing in Mexico along with a few reports of Canadian tourists killings and assaults. I'm going to Maya Riviera next May, how safe is this area of Mexico?


    The reports are completely sensationalized to sell headlines.


    I don't know man, latest records state that the murdering rate in mexico increased exponentially in less than 5 years going all the way from 10 killings per day to 56 killings per day.



    Just for some perspective on this fact: There are about 46 murders a day in the US. But that won't stop you from taking a vacation in Miami, I assume?

    If you want specifics, the US State Dept. is the best source for travel warnings. http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_5440.html



    Never been to Miami, never been to the US actually but anyways, like i said before and i quote myself:

    "What worries me is not so much the existing violence but how little the government does to prevent things like these from happening to the point that The Canadian government had to issue a warning:"

    Mexico is not the most dangerous place in the world or anything of the sort, but you do have to stay away from areas known to have a considerably high intentional homicide rate. Specially near the border and across the pacific cost.

    Countries by homicide rate. Dark blue means over 20 killings per 100.000 habitants. Grey means no data
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    Brazil, South Africa, Russia, Venezuela and Colombia seem more dangerous than Mexico as places to visit. My question is because the news here in Canada in less than a month show a total of 3 Canadians that have been murdered and 2 that were beaten badly. So, I was wondering if places that were considered relatively safe before are not so much.